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[Talio]

I actually have a question. My plusbow started jamming yesterday when I was cocking it back. Zack noticed that the back of the spring is getting stuck in the opening the plunger moves through. It seems other people are having this problem, so is there a solution?

Talio.

[Darken]

I had the same problem Tailo, but I noticed the little circular piece at the back of the plunger tube held in place by the screws was out of alignment. All I did was put it back in place and the problem stopped. I'm not sure If this applies to yours but it could help checking it. This is mainly what I'm saying happened:

[UpperHand]

So I just finished my +bow, but the damn label paper is leaving this sticky residue all over the polycarbonate (laugh it up you pervs). Any idea about what I could that? Im afraid to use any thing because it might erode the plastic. What could I use?

You're supposed to apply the label paper to the protective film that the sheets should come covered with.

I feel like an idiot. And yeah, Ill try goo gone now.

[Ryan201821]

As promised here is a picture of the RSCB bracket on my +bow. The top screws are 1/2" length and the bottom ones are 3/4". It does the job quite well. Makes an RSCB a lot easier to use.

Edited by Ryan201821, 16 June 2009 - 01:39 PM.

[wangsoup]

Here's my +bow in all it's glory, and I hope no one is offended by the pictures on it.



The other side

For some reason I'm getting lame ranges, but it looks nice enough.

Edited by wangsoup, 25 June 2009 - 04:44 PM.

[CaptainSlug]

For some reason I'm getting lame ranges, but it looks nice enough.

You mean Jesus doesn't get you an extra 20 feet?
Dang. Jesus can help all those basketball and football players win games, but apparently he doesn't really care about Nerf.

Edited by CaptainSlug, 24 June 2009 - 10:29 PM.

[VACC]

You mean Jesus doesn't get you an extra 20 feet?
Dang. Jesus can help all those basketball and football players win games, but apparently he doesn't really care about Nerf.

I blame insufficient praising of his name. If you don't cross yourself and point to the sky after every minor achievment how is a higher power supposed to know that you are pleased with his mad sacred game?

Make a shot? Give a shout out up high.
Dodge a dart? Raise your eyes and mouth some sweet nothings.
See a mexican emptying rat traps behind the Roy Rodgers you frequent for lunch and decide to make a detour to the local subwy instead? Drop to your knees and say a few rosaries. It's simple really.

[louiec3]

I just finished my +bow.


Everything is the same except I made one of the handle pieces larger and drilled a 9/16 hole in it because I had problems with the handle moving side to side.



I'm having the same problems as wangsoup because I put a picture of Buddy Jesus on my doomsayer and it just wont shoot far.

[koree]

So those of you who have met me know how i feel about RSCBs at this point, you never ever have enough of them. With that in mind i decided to try something today to push this philosophy on one plunger tube as far as it can go.

Presenting, the triple RSCB +bow.



This Ryan made +bow will shoot 3 darts from one plunger draw from 4 capacity RSCBs. It shoots over 60' with range and trajectory consistency. From my experience, RSCBs, if made/assembled correctly, don't jam by coincidence but only by human error, and that seems to carry over to this barrel arrangement as I've shot it about a dozen times so far and it hasn't misfired.

And for the sake of more gun porn, my usual load out with a 12 inch barrel and 12 inch clear clip with ball valve for reloading on the fly.

Edited by koree, 28 June 2009 - 04:27 PM.

[nightfinder]

*breaks out in song* That gun has a lot of deeaaddd space! That gun has a lot of deaaad space..

Seriously, TRIPLE RSCB's? Too much dead space there.

[Daniel Beaver]

*breaks out in song* That gun has a lot of deeaaddd space! That gun has a lot of deaaad space..
Too much dead space there.

What's your point? Yes, it has a lot of dead space by necessity. But it still gets long enough ranges to be functional in a war.

[VACC]

The point I would make is that having triple rscb barrels just doesn't make much tactical sense. Why do you need to so quickly reload a three shot burst? If your objective is to shoot through all your darts in a single round, I think you got a winner there.

[koree]

The point I would make is that having triple rscb barrels just doesn't make much tactical sense. Why do you need to so quickly reload a three shot burst? If your objective is to shoot through all your darts in a single round, I think you got a winner there.

4 accurate (these are 8 inch barrels) spread shots in quick succession; how is that not tactically useful? This will allow a player to hit a target MUCH more easily by allowing the person to have a 6 inch wide spread to hit their targets with rather than the single dart. Isn't that tactically useful?

Also, this thing is just as easily removable from the +bow as a flip breach. You can switch to said flip breach just as fast as you would reloading the flip breach, when you run out of darts or you want to take that pot shot at that target 140 feet away.

Edited by koree, 30 June 2009 - 03:52 PM.

[Talio]

It's now painfully obviously that you have either never been to a nerf war or haven't played against anyone with a clue of what they are doing.

[koree]

I don't need to defend this or myself here, I'll let the blaster do the shit talking on the field.

[slowguitarman]

It's now painfully obviously that you have either never been to a nerf war or haven't played against anyone with a clue of what they are doing.

That alone makes it non-competitive. It's just for fun.

I'd say that your post in this thread makes a moot point. You talk as if this is some sort of competition where people can win or lose, but that apparently isn't the case. If that gun were a mav with triple RSCB clips on each barrel, it wouldn't matter if he could even get darts to fire because we all come out winners in the end by having fun.

[CaptainSlug]

Stop bickering in my thread. It's annoying.

koree shot me in the nose with his +bow at SuperNova and the resulting bruise has finally gone away. So as far as I'm aware his +bow works fine.

[diamondbacknf1626]

Ok, I've tried, from what I can tell, every possible method of solving this problem, and yet, to no avail.

My +bow's ranges have been on the low end since I recieved it (90-100 ft.). The bow was made by RyanMcnumbers, and was one of his personal +bows, and he vouched for it hitting at range. My original dart/barrel fit was mile high black slug style darts in OMC's thick walled PETG, 12" barrels. No good. However, I had used a silicon spray lube before I put it together. I found out that that could enlarge the rubber washer, so I started from scratch with a new rubber washer. I tried another lube, but then decided it was too thick, and that was the cause for the continuing bad ranges. Now, I'm using a bit of silicon o-ring grease, which I've heard is the correct stuff. Still no good. Then, I heard swift nerf foam in CPVC would yeild good results. Well, I tried, and again, no good. It worked for like a shot or two, but it must've been a lucky dart, because since, I haven't been able to hit past 100. I've used multiple dart/barrel combos, lengths, etc. and I have the same results over and over.

The odd part is though, is that with an RSCB and either of the above dart/barrel combos, I'm still hitting above 90 consistently (6 shot RSCB).

I've had no luck with this gun, and if someone could give me a reason why this could be happening, and help me finally solve this, I would very much appreceate it.

[Hipponater]

Ok, I've tried, from what I can tell, every possible method of solving this problem, and yet, to no avail.

My +bow's ranges have been on the low end since I recieved it (90-100 ft.). The bow was made by RyanMcnumbers, and was one of his personal +bows, and he vouched for it hitting at range. My original dart/barrel fit was mile high black slug style darts in OMC's thick walled PETG, 12" barrels. No good. However, I had used a silicon spray lube before I put it together. I found out that that could enlarge the rubber washer, so I started from scratch with a new rubber washer. I tried another lube, but then decided it was too thick, and that was the cause for the continuing bad ranges. Now, I'm using a bit of silicon o-ring grease, which I've heard is the correct stuff. Still no good. Then, I heard swift nerf foam in CPVC would yeild good results. Well, I tried, and again, no good. It worked for like a shot or two, but it must've been a lucky dart, because since, I haven't been able to hit past 100. I've used multiple dart/barrel combos, lengths, etc. and I have the same results over and over.

The odd part is though, is that with an RSCB and either of the above dart/barrel combos, I'm still hitting above 90 consistently (6 shot RSCB).

I've had no luck with this gun, and if someone could give me a reason why this could be happening, and help me finally solve this, I would very much appreceate it.

How heavy are your darts? What are they weighted with? If they're too light they won't go as far as they should, the +bow has a ton of power, so it needs heavier darts. With the rscb, the darts are receiving a little less "oomph" so the lighter weight is not as big of an issue, so you're getting good ranges.

I should have some pics of my +bows up in the next couple days. Still putting them together.

How important is the lock washer on the 3/8" screws? I didn't realize each +bow needed more than 20, so I only got one pack of 100 screws to use on 5 blasters. I've been cutting down 3/4" screws to use in place of some of the 3/8", they just don't have the lock washer. It should be alright on some of the less crucial pieces such as the back stock and others, right?

[diamondbacknf1626]

Ok, I've tried, from what I can tell, every possible method of solving this problem, and yet, to no avail.

My +bow's ranges have been on the low end since I recieved it (90-100 ft.). The bow was made by RyanMcnumbers, and was one of his personal +bows, and he vouched for it hitting at range. My original dart/barrel fit was mile high black slug style darts in OMC's thick walled PETG, 12" barrels. No good. However, I had used a silicon spray lube before I put it together. I found out that that could enlarge the rubber washer, so I started from scratch with a new rubber washer. I tried another lube, but then decided it was too thick, and that was the cause for the continuing bad ranges. Now, I'm using a bit of silicon o-ring grease, which I've heard is the correct stuff. Still no good. Then, I heard swift nerf foam in CPVC would yeild good results. Well, I tried, and again, no good. It worked for like a shot or two, but it must've been a lucky dart, because since, I haven't been able to hit past 100. I've used multiple dart/barrel combos, lengths, etc. and I have the same results over and over.

The odd part is though, is that with an RSCB and either of the above dart/barrel combos, I'm still hitting above 90 consistently (6 shot RSCB).

I've had no luck with this gun, and if someone could give me a reason why this could be happening, and help me finally solve this, I would very much appreceate it.

How heavy are your darts? What are they weighted with? If they're too light they won't go as far as they should, the +bow has a ton of power, so it needs heavier darts. With the rscb, the darts are receiving a little less "oomph" so the lighter weight is not as big of an issue, so you're getting good ranges.

1/4" Steel Slingshot weights with the swiftnerf.

On the Mile High, it's CS style (Washers + felt tip). Both of which should be heavy enough.

[koree]

Diamondback,

Try around 16 inches of CPVC with either of your darts. I know 16 inches seems excessive, but a well made +bow like yours can make use of it.

[diamondbacknf1626]

Alrighty, so, I just spent an hour or two testing pretty much every dart/barrel fit/weight/length that I possibly could. Here were my results.

Mile High Black:
12" PETG:
-1/4" Steel Slingshot weight; 80'
-3/0 Fishing Weight; 73'
-CS Felt/Washer tip; 84'

9" PETG:
-1/4" Steel Slingshot weight; 85'
-3/0 Fishing Weight; 84'
-CS Felt/Washer tip; 80'

12" 9/16" Brass:
-1/4" Steel Slingshot weight; 96'
-3/0 Fishing Weight; 80'
-CS Felt/Washer tip; 73'



Black Sunshine Foam:
12" PETG:
-1/4" Steel Slingshot weight; 75'
-3/0 Fishing Weight; 56' (Bad Dart?)
-CS Felt/Washer tip; 85'

9" PETG:
-1/4" Steel Slingshot weight; 90'
-3/0 Fishing Weight; 76' (Same bad dart)
-CS Felt/Washer tip; 111' (Best shot)

12" 9/16" Brass:
-1/4" Steel Slingshot weight; 81'
-3/0 Fishing Weight; 64' (Again, bad dart)
-CS Felt/Washer tip; 98'



Swift Nerf:
12" CPVC:
-1/4" Steel Slingshot weight; 53'
-3/0 Fishing Weight; 79'
-CS Felt/Washer tip; 101'

9" CPVC
-1/4" Steel Slingshot weight; 86'
-3/0 Fishing Weight; 87'
-CS Felt/Washer tip; 99'



Mod Man:
12" CPVC:
-1/4" Steel Slingshot weight; 98'
-3/0 Fishing Weight; 51' (Fired this dart like 3 times. Got bad ranges every time)
-CS Felt/Washer tip; 90'

9" CPVC
-1/4" Steel Slingshot weight; 93'
-3/0 Fishing Weight; 95'
-CS Felt/Washer tip; 73'



McMaster:
12" CPVC:
-1/4" Steel Slingshot weight; 79'
-3/0 Fishing Weight; 87'
-CS Felt/Washer tip; 108'

9" CPVC
-1/4" Steel Slingshot weight; 90'
-3/0 Fishing Weight; 90'
-CS Felt/Washer tip; 94'


As you can see, very few even broke 100, no matter what dart, weight, or barrel I was using.

I was told after I posted the original post to add some more lube. That was done before these range tests. I also re-did the e-tape around the bushing in the front of the blaster, and it's nice and solid.

Seal is good, plunger does not seem to be slowing down when fired, weather's decent out, I'm not short (5'11"-6'ish), spring is the [k26], like it's supposed to be. I'm at a loss.

Koree, I'll try it, but really, in a war situation, I don't want to be running around with 16" of barrel out the front of my blaster.

If anyone could offer some help, that would be awesome. I just can't figure out what the problem is.

Edited by diamondbacknf1626, 01 July 2009 - 03:53 PM.

[diamondbacknf1626]

Damn, Koree was right. Huh. Well, 16" of CPVC + Swift nerf or McMaster foam = Awesome for a +bow, apparently. I'm consistently hitting over 100 with that combo. If someone could solve the problem with the other dart/barrels though, that'd be cool.

Also, one more thing. The first catch notch gets caught on the spring once in a while. The gun locks up, and it refuses to prime. Anyone have a solution for that?

[CaptainSlug]

How important is the lock washer on the 3/8" screws?

The lock washers prevent the screws from loosening under vibration.

Also, one more thing. The first catch notch gets caught on the spring once in a while. The gun locks up, and it refuses to prime. Anyone have a solution for that?

Are you sure your spring is centered at the back of the plunger tube?

Edited by CaptainSlug, 01 July 2009 - 11:40 PM.

[diamondbacknf1626]

Also, one more thing. The first catch notch gets caught on the spring once in a while. The gun locks up, and it refuses to prime. Anyone have a solution for that?

Are you sure your spring is centered at the back of the plunger tube?

It is when I put it in. Then it begins to move offcenter, to the point where it will occasionally get caught.

Edited by diamondbacknf1626, 01 July 2009 - 11:44 PM.