Questions and Response time!
[quote name='Retiate' date='Oct 1 2007, 03:03 AM' post='124638']
So now how hard is it to cock?
How's the stock compared to the one on it's brother?
How about the plunger tube?
Was there anything you needed to reinforce?
That catch looks like it could snap off like the other one did.
And that foam rubber stuff, where did you find it? Do you know what it's called? All I could find at Home Depot and Ace was this hard, rubbery stuff. It didn't look like the ones I've seen in your pictures.
I think Doomsayer fits quite well.
1 It is easier to cock than my Pump Action Shotgun level 2. It is not that hard to cock for me considering I was able to pump out 12 shots in 12 seconds.
2 The stock is a bit larger and more comfortable to work with. It is now where near as comfortable as an Xbow. I would say if a Xbow stock was a 10 and a longshot stock was an 8, I would put this somewhere around 6.
3. The plunger tube is a bit smaller than the Pump action shotgun.
4. I did not reinforce a single thing. Another thing I like about the catch is that this catch is actually wider and made of a stronger plastic than the original pump action shotgun.
5. I have been able to find that exact kind of foam rubber at every hardware store I go to. Maybe you are not looking in the right place. Check the plumbing section.
[quote name='mini' date='Oct 1 2007, 03:18 AM' post='124639']
Anyway the only that worries me, well decides being on the receiving end, is having all those exposed barrel out there.
I treat my guns with respect. I can't see myself ever having to throw or drop this gun. So I am not concerned with the exposed barrels at all.
[quote name='lionhead333' date='Oct 1 2007, 06:56 AM' post='124644']
Absolutely incredible. Just wondering, how many feet of FBR did you use insulating? Seems like it adds up.
I used the leftover crushed foam that comes at the end of the spools. It is pretty useless. It would come in handy for people who use cpvc though.
[quote name='Cmdrmack' date='Oct 1 2007, 08:38 AM' post='124647']
How the hell do you plan on topping this?
It is already in effect.
[quote name='sam' date='Oct 1 2007, 05:45 PM' post='124678']
[quote name='Forsaken_angel24' post='124637' date='Sep 30 2007, 10:25 PM']
Comments, suggestions, praises, flames
I've got a flame for you,
I'd light myself on fire to have that.
I laughed for a while after reading that.
[quote name='NerfFreak' date='Oct 1 2007, 06:01 PM' post='124679']
Trigger mech looks kind of complex, which usually means it's harder and weaker to use, as there's so many pieces. It's hard to see in the pic, so care to elaborate on how it works?
The half dome that rotates the mech moves back and forth along the beefy gear wheel. This rotates the turret.
Now what is interesting is that when the turret is stock. The barrels would actually move around the skull while the skull would stay put always being in a right side up position. This is what I originally wanted but learned it was impossible. So I ended up glueing the spring and now the center of the turret turns with the actual barrels.
[quote name='b00m13' date='Oct 1 2007, 06:53 PM' post='124686']
When you add the extra spring, how much harder is it now to cock the gun? Keep in mind, when I added a BBB spring into a LS, I had to use both bolts to cock it back... (I'm that weak).
I would not recommend using industrial springs if you are that weak.
[quote name='AODL' date='Oct 1 2007, 08:36 PM' post='124701']
I have a question, if you don't mind it. When you say "Industrial Spring", are there any possible details you can give us one that spring? ( i.e. Name of the Company, length, width, thickness of coils, coils per inch, ect.)
I don't do measurements. I eyeball and feel out the springs and make judgment calls based on those. I bought a box of excess springs from some warehouse for $50. I plan on going to get more soon.
[quote name='yourface' date='Oct 1 2007, 09:27 PM' post='124718']
FA_24, which barrel does the gun shoot out of? Is it easy to aim?
Doomsayer shoots out of it's top barrel. It is easy to aim but a tad more difficult to aim than the Pump action shotgun. In other words, It is the second easiest gun to aim I have ever modified.
[quote name='jwasko' date='Oct 1 2007, 11:44 PM' post='124744']
I would first like to say that you did a great job, Angel. I would also like to add that I almost certainly couldn't do this mod as well as you (or any of your mods, for that matter).
Also, I'd like to note that I just read the Eyes of Fire mod for the first time yesterday.
So, to get to the point...I'm not that impressed with the Doomsayer.
Now, would I be cowering in fear if I went up against it? Yes. Is it another great Angel production? Yes.
The rear-loading turret is
amazingly practical, and the way that it was done here was elegant in its simplicity; perhaps equally importantly, it was successful. Still, it is something that has been tried and even accomplished before.
Cmdrmack asked: "How the hell do you plan on topping this?" Meanwhile, I'm still asking: "How the hell do you plan on topping the Eyes Of Fire?"
In sum: another great job, Angel. But, is it the best mod I've ever seen? No. In my opinion, Angel's LS and the Eyes of Fire were more impressive.
That's my honest opinion.
I hear you but the Eyes of Fire was way Over budgeted. I will be surprised if anyone here will actually use that write up to its full extent.
As far as I am concerned this is the best modification I have ever done. Besides I can see others actually following this mod and replicating it. As far as primaries go, I think it is safe to say that my longshot may be neglected for a while.
[quote name='Cmdrmack' date='Oct 2 2007, 01:21 AM' post='124756']
Doomsayer is an excellent step forward in modification.
If anything I would say that this is the paradigm of Nerf modification
1st: Does it perform its task better than when you pulled it out of the box
2nd: Does it look better than when you pulled it out of the box
3rd: Is it useful
The Eyes of Fire answers yes to the first two, the Doomsayer answers yes to all three.
Thanks mate. Eyes of fire is useful but nowhere near as useful as Doomsayer in a war type situation. Eyes of Fire was created for assassin type scenarios and to see how my skills at modding guns could increase.
[quote name='One Man Clan' date='Oct 2 2007, 08:44 AM' post='124765']
FA's mods serve different purposes, and serve them each well. Somewhere in there is that saying about bringing a knife to a gun fight,
I plan on doing more work so the next one is like bringing a gun to a knife fight.
[quote name='AODL' date='Oct 2 2007, 11:10 PM' post='124856']
On a side note, Angel, do you have any idea if Step 4 works yet?
It is a work in progress. I am very, very fucking busy with Organizing Hell, Moving,organizing a Huge Halloween party and dealing with the constantly changing job I have. Making more guns for others coming to Hell, making darts and finding a new red fbr supplier. I will post something when I can.
[quote name='SHADOW HUNTER ALPHA' date='Oct 2 2007, 11:49 PM' post='124860']
Is the piece through which those three loading ports were drilled a solid plastic slab, or is it hollow like usual? If it is the latter, did you bridge the gap with anything to prevent darts from being caught on the second half of the port?
I cannot for the life of me figure out what this means. A little more help?
[quote name='Uterly' post='124870' date='Oct 3 2007, 01:23 AM']
I think it is interesting to read These reviews
and compare them to these results lol
Also, FA did you experience any of the mentioned problems with the stock gun
I laughed reading those reviews. I plan on leaving my own review. With a link to this page.
[quote name='Skitzo' date='Oct 3 2007, 08:12 AM' post='124886']
I plan on using your writeup and maybe adding a few things.
Is that OMC's PETG? If not how does it compare in size?
Thanks allot for the writeup, I'll let you know how mine turns out.
I look forward to seeing your final product.
Thanks guys for all the compliments. They really are what keeps these write ups coming. Especially now that I am working full time with all these other things going on.
As far as "Flashy" is concerned. I am happy with this gun exactly the way it is. I thought the paint scheme was fine. All it needed was something on that peg in the middle. As far as paint is concerned I am done with Krylon paint. I will be following CS's advice on using Vinyl dye. I have noticed the paint is wearing off on some of my guns.
EDIT: Once again the quotes don't work when quoting alot of people.
Edited by Forsaken_angel24, 03 October 2007 - 08:42 PM.