The burst seal thing might actually turn out to be easy to reload, and I'm trying to create a shell/cartridge for this thing that holds the seal and has a preloaded dart in the end, It may turn out to be incredibly long though.
Btw: The barrel is half inch PVC, and I still have to cram deflated stock darts in to make them fit, while still hanging an inch out of the barrel. What size PVC should I be using? The only reason the PVC is so wrongly sized is because I'm recycling it from an old mosquito net frame (that I'll never use again).
Would shells be a good idea? or just not worth the time to make.
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#101023 Bike Pump Burst Seal Rifle
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on 12 March 2007 - 03:27 PM
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#101008 Bike Pump Burst Seal Rifle
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on 11 March 2007 - 06:21 PM
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I fully owe the accomplishment of this weapon to Badger, who's idea I found when browsing old topics:
I made a burst seal gun, I got it to shoot around 40' with 4 layers of plastic bag (search "burst seal" for a full explanation) I used a bike pump and two pieces of PVC. I will post pictures soon, but I'm in a hurry right now, they may be posted tomorrow.
The pressure sorce was a foot pump, and I just smashed bag between a big and small piece of PVC.
I hope to put a better barrel on it, and then maybe a burst-shell system of sorts could be installed, and possibly a breech.
Thank you Badger
I wrote this in hurry, really sorry I can't post pics right now.
Got more time, here's some pics:
The Gun
The valve/pump connection
I makeshiftly connected the pump by wrapping layers of duct tape over the end of the tube, and sticking a basketball inflator needle through them. The adhesive made a resonable seal.
The burst seal is just crushed between pipes, if you can see that.
I got it to shoot around 15' with no burst seal, and in the open (at an upward firing angle) with 5 layers of bag, it got around 50' (That's an approximation)
Edit: added bottom section
I made a burst seal gun, I got it to shoot around 40' with 4 layers of plastic bag (search "burst seal" for a full explanation) I used a bike pump and two pieces of PVC. I will post pictures soon, but I'm in a hurry right now, they may be posted tomorrow.
The pressure sorce was a foot pump, and I just smashed bag between a big and small piece of PVC.
I hope to put a better barrel on it, and then maybe a burst-shell system of sorts could be installed, and possibly a breech.
Thank you Badger
I wrote this in hurry, really sorry I can't post pics right now.
Got more time, here's some pics:
The Gun
The valve/pump connection
I makeshiftly connected the pump by wrapping layers of duct tape over the end of the tube, and sticking a basketball inflator needle through them. The adhesive made a resonable seal.
The burst seal is just crushed between pipes, if you can see that.
I got it to shoot around 15' with no burst seal, and in the open (at an upward firing angle) with 5 layers of bag, it got around 50' (That's an approximation)
Edit: added bottom section
#100986 Concept Dart
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on 10 March 2007 - 08:31 PM
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This would work really well with mega's (bigger size), if people are a little disoriented when working with tiny things, or they're just clumsy in general. Also, for anybody who airsofts, you could make a shotgun/sabot round by having a thin slice of FBR infront of a bunch of plastic bb's, and the a FBR sabot behind it. Just an idea I thought I would toss in.
I was thinking the airsoft thing earlier, that would probably work.
I tried the sabot in my modded BBB. The barrel is a crayola and way to small, but if i used a pencil as a ramrod, I got the sabot and the shot to fit, and shot it against the door.
Shot without sabot against door: made weak 'whumph' sound as bbs hit door
Shot with sabot against door: Made painfully loud cracking sound (I think I dented my door)
I'm kind of worried about my door, but the sabot did its job. I haven't made any more or tried paper shells, the paper may make it too big for the barrel. I think I should research pvc shell systems, like in Boltsniper's FAR, those clips should work if I can figure out how to make the loading system out of balsa
.The glue would be easy, but I have trouble with two parts of that:
1: I put markings on the shot to show which sides line up (reason I'm looking into clips)
2: I used up all the hot glue screwing around with old darts, I thought I had a huge reserve pack
EDIT: As follows:
I was looking at Boltsniper's SCAR, which is incredible, but without ever seeing the shell sealing mechanism, a sudden understanding of it came over me, that if I make the barrel out of the same sized pvc as the shell (that should be assumed) then I can use a PVC pipe attachment piece, and have the bolt slide it over the shell.
I think I understood this when I found a pic of the SCAR assembled, with a glimpse of the inside chamber. I'll make a picture of how I think it works, tell me if this is right, or if there's a better way.
I have no machining skills, no machines to improve skills, and no understanding of how people carve custom plastic with what looks like Sketchup (Boltsnipers writup had a sketchup looking CAD drawing)
#100977 Anyone Mess With Titan's 2nd Trigger?
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on 10 March 2007 - 09:47 AM
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I didn't realize the titan had a second trigger (wasn't willing to spend around $70 on it when I last saw it in its early days) I also don't understand how it works, but if it is air pressure, you could make it use the air to apply pressure to another gun's trigger, even if the other gun is spring based.
#100976 C.s.h.g.
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on 10 March 2007 - 09:30 AM
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Oh, I see. Is this whole thing based on rotating, I know you said it was initially to be drill driven, then hybrid. Just wondering. All the distinctly moving pieces I see seem to be threaded, spiraled or otherwise screw-like.
Regardless, the way you've worked this whole thing out is still amazing to me, my mechanical building skill is minimal.
Edit: had a few missing commas, periods, capitals (very careful about that now)
Regardless, the way you've worked this whole thing out is still amazing to me, my mechanical building skill is minimal.
Edit: had a few missing commas, periods, capitals (very careful about that now)
#100975 Concept Dart
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on 10 March 2007 - 09:21 AM
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Sabots, I just read something about those on howstuffworks, perfect.
I haven't tried loading multiple rounds per barrel, but that would be awsome.
Hmmm, magstrike-shotgun combo. Have to ask my bro's permission to use his. That would be murder to anyone, 8 darts per barrel, times 20 barrels, I'd be firing 160 sprayfire shots in around 3 seconds! I have to try that, And that's only with 2 shells per barrel.
I'll try to make paper shells. How should I keep them organized, I just thought about that last night. Still, airsofters and paintballers don't go back for their spent ammo, why should a nerfer have to. (Unless it's inside, then it really becomes a problem with dogs)
I haven't tried loading multiple rounds per barrel, but that would be awsome.
Hmmm, magstrike-shotgun combo. Have to ask my bro's permission to use his. That would be murder to anyone, 8 darts per barrel, times 20 barrels, I'd be firing 160 sprayfire shots in around 3 seconds! I have to try that, And that's only with 2 shells per barrel.
I'll try to make paper shells. How should I keep them organized, I just thought about that last night. Still, airsofters and paintballers don't go back for their spent ammo, why should a nerfer have to. (Unless it's inside, then it really becomes a problem with dogs)
#100969 Moddable?
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on 09 March 2007 - 11:02 PM
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Oh god.... THAT THING.
that was my first reaction
it's not designed to shoot far.
I don't think so, it's just that it's launching what looks like a half pound bobber, if you completely removed the hook and line system (and if it uses air pressure) this may shoot pretty far with a barrel mod. If it's not air powered, forget it.
#100965 C.s.h.g.
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on 09 March 2007 - 10:24 PM
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Looking at the first design, I noticed that the hopper either moved or was removed, were the darts going to be picked up by a notched gear thing at the bottom of it, like a rotational breech? Is there any way we could view that model in 3D for ourselves? I understand things better visually, and the only 3D/CAD program that I have is Sketchup. 
#100964 Big Salvo
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on 09 March 2007 - 10:16 PM
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Wow, and I thought the Salvo was good with micros just crammed down the barrel...
#100963 Concept Dart
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on 09 March 2007 - 10:11 PM
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I had extra time with some FBR, I don't know if this has already been invented, but I roughly mentioned it in another post.
By pie-slicing a short (to conserve foam) FBR dart body, and attaching BBs to the end, I made a shotgun dart, which shoots up to four incredibly small darts every shot. I'm still trying to perfect it, but it fires reasonably strong, and I can shoot it out of any stefan-capable gun.
I need suggestions on how to get better sealance with the cracks, and I thing this would only be effective in shell-loading guns, as it takes around 20 seconds to get the pieces together. Speaking of which, maybe their's a better way to put them together.
Here's some pictures that were mostly too close for my camera to focus on.
Suggestions?
By pie-slicing a short (to conserve foam) FBR dart body, and attaching BBs to the end, I made a shotgun dart, which shoots up to four incredibly small darts every shot. I'm still trying to perfect it, but it fires reasonably strong, and I can shoot it out of any stefan-capable gun.
I need suggestions on how to get better sealance with the cracks, and I thing this would only be effective in shell-loading guns, as it takes around 20 seconds to get the pieces together. Speaking of which, maybe their's a better way to put them together.
Here's some pictures that were mostly too close for my camera to focus on.
Suggestions?
#100613 Soldat Nerf Mod
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on 01 March 2007 - 12:25 PM
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I see the resemblence to the normal order of weapons, but isn't it going to negate the fun of pumping the 100 some rounds into the enemy with a minigun, when all you can do is coat them in a quick burst of darts? Just a thought, I've always enjoyed this game's MG's. Just a thought
Other thoughts:
Maybe the spas could be replaced with the manta gun (forgot the name) that shoots 4 darts at once.
Not nerf mortar, TITAN!
I think this would be a good game for modding bullets, since they are actually visible, and have a trejectory rather than an unstopable, direct path.
Other thoughts:
Maybe the spas could be replaced with the manta gun (forgot the name) that shoots 4 darts at once.
Not nerf mortar, TITAN!
I think this would be a good game for modding bullets, since they are actually visible, and have a trejectory rather than an unstopable, direct path.
#100612 The Most Awesome Gun I Own...
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on 01 March 2007 - 12:05 PM
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I think my RF20 came pre-used. The box was suspiciously dented, and the thing would fire at randome intervals during the night. I tried to mod it a while back (I got it when I was like 10) and the thing refuses to fire. The only plus to this thing is the 20 dart continual fire.
Then my trigger shattered, and It became even more defective.
Then my trigger shattered, and It became even more defective.
#100590 Assassination
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on 28 February 2007 - 09:37 PM
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You live in highland park!?! (that's what the video said, correct me if I'm wrong)
#100586 Cheapest Homemade Ever!
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on 28 February 2007 - 09:11 PM
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Not if I use a really cheap motor. I think this thing might disintegrate before I find a solid place to attach anything beyond its already incredibly basic system.
The shotgun part of it is going to be helped by the dart pushing approach, since my shotgun idea has absolutely no seal to help the dart ge pushed out, and in fact works almost like a vent for pressure-a bad thing.
Also, I am probably going to be able to pick it up this Friday.
The shotgun part of it is going to be helped by the dart pushing approach, since my shotgun idea has absolutely no seal to help the dart ge pushed out, and in fact works almost like a vent for pressure-a bad thing.
Also, I am probably going to be able to pick it up this Friday.
#100568 C.s.h.g.
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on 28 February 2007 - 06:05 PM
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Oddly (for me), that first idea made perfect sense to me. I was thinking about making an airsoft like that, especially the rotating loading, I thought it would be effective to crank the plungers back by screw-like threads in the outter casing. Is that what i'm seeing?
#100566 No Clip Rapid Fire?
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on 28 February 2007 - 05:39 PM
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The show has THE WORST writing of any show I have ever seen on any of the Discovery network channels. The garbage that issues forth from the unintentionally comical host is at best 25% accurate and 75% marketing drivel with a very limited selection of adjectives that make him sound even dumber. He's a decent interviewer, but a terrible host. They should not have bothered to let him say anything on camera.
Yah, I know and totally agree, the host uses the same nonscientific terms repetedly, I just put it on mute and watch for the bizar, or more practical things, this was probably an impractical, bizar thing. I was thinking that the pressure input system here would solve some motion flaws in Nerf design, like some of the supermaxx line, which had structural integrity issues in several places. I do see the similarity to ball launchers though.
added an air inlet behind each dart in the barrel
That was what I was saying, but thanks for clarifying, my description was just the low-res video. I thought that possibly the suction cup headed darts could seal the barrel, but wouldn't allow it to launch.
Ok, I removed the idiot part, he's not good at TV, but he did service.
#100552 No Clip Rapid Fire?
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on 28 February 2007 - 01:31 PM
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This may be a little crazy, and I'm not sure if it's even possible, but some of you seem to be able to mimick everything in Nerf.
I watch this show called Futureweapons, where they have different guns, missiles, aircraft, explosives, etc., and they showed a gun that was based on the principle that the only moving part is the barrel, making mechanics incredibly simple, and the gun insanely fast.
The gun (in real weaponry) works by stacking several rounds into each of its barrels (4 on handgun), and then igniting the caps in order, making it the fastest firing weapon ever, and it doesn't require a clip.
I thought that the bullets could be darts, and that instead of igniting anything, air could be pumped in.
To explain, here's a youtube of it.
all that really matters is the part about the chip sending electric charges to behind bullets, what if one of the mechanical geniuses here could make something mechanical to pump air behind darts in order? I think that would be the end of slow barrel reloads.
Just a thought.
I watch this show called Futureweapons, where they have different guns, missiles, aircraft, explosives, etc., and they showed a gun that was based on the principle that the only moving part is the barrel, making mechanics incredibly simple, and the gun insanely fast.
The gun (in real weaponry) works by stacking several rounds into each of its barrels (4 on handgun), and then igniting the caps in order, making it the fastest firing weapon ever, and it doesn't require a clip.
I thought that the bullets could be darts, and that instead of igniting anything, air could be pumped in.
To explain, here's a youtube of it.
all that really matters is the part about the chip sending electric charges to behind bullets, what if one of the mechanical geniuses here could make something mechanical to pump air behind darts in order? I think that would be the end of slow barrel reloads.
Just a thought.
#100549 Cheapest Homemade Ever!
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on 28 February 2007 - 01:11 PM
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Yes, the clip is on the real one, made from balsa (no idea how it's holding up), and tacky glue.
I also left my 20' length of FBR at my grandparents' house to straighten, its been a month since I left it there, and last time I wen there I slept the whole time with the flu, so I will bring it home next time, and use BBs and hot glue to make real stefans.
Is there anything that I can do to conserve that foam, I'd rather be using the skewered length to make stefans, could I replace it?
I also left my 20' length of FBR at my grandparents' house to straighten, its been a month since I left it there, and last time I wen there I slept the whole time with the flu, so I will bring it home next time, and use BBs and hot glue to make real stefans.
Is there anything that I can do to conserve that foam, I'd rather be using the skewered length to make stefans, could I replace it?
#100545 Cheapest Homemade Ever!
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on 28 February 2007 - 12:31 PM
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I really hope this link works. I drew this is under 5 minutes, so it's not really top quality.
(my imageshack screenname is a mac joke, and a typo that I don't really care about)
#100541 Cheapest Homemade Ever!
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on 28 February 2007 - 11:58 AM
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Please stop, I'm back, I PM'ed Badger, I'll fix my grammar.
And yes, that drawing is exactly what my gun looks like from the top, down to the detail of the tapered stick.
I don't have the gun with me, I built it with garbage at my grandparents' house when I was bored.
I'll draw a actual picture now, I guess I should explain like you said.
(the dart had this giant lead tack in it)
And yes, that drawing is exactly what my gun looks like from the top, down to the detail of the tapered stick.
I don't have the gun with me, I built it with garbage at my grandparents' house when I was bored.
I'll draw a actual picture now, I guess I should explain like you said.
(the dart had this giant lead tack in it)
#100473 Cheapest Homemade Ever!
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on 26 February 2007 - 07:06 PM
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This sucks, and in fact, the way you type pretains to grammatical laws much less than mine. (I'm not an idiot people). To be harrassed for grammar on the internet is stupid, I'm done with this site, you have no power to keep me here or to criticise irrelevant topics.
Bye.
Bye.
#100468 Nerf Shotgun
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on 26 February 2007 - 06:49 PM
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Is your shotgun going to fire off multiple darts? Or is it just going to work like a shotgun?
Even though I'm a noob here, I'm a gamer, and this is really irritating to me too, you people need to understand that shotguns fire SHOT, which is a bunch of projectiles at once, please try to understand that.
#100463 Cheapest Homemade Ever!
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on 26 February 2007 - 06:37 PM
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Laugh at me if you will, but i think that I have succeded in make possibly the worst, cheapest nerf gun ever, with a length of pvc, balsa wood, some fbr, a stick, and a rubber band. this thing is incomplete, but i've gotten it to fire a makeshift stefan (which had WAY too much wheight) about 20 feet. Also, I'm thinking about a turning it into an actual shotgun, by slicing a dart lengthwise into fourth pie slices.
NOTE: a shotgun is a gun that shoots SHOT, rifles are very different from shotguns, to be a shotgun, it needs to fire spraying particles.
Don't laugh at my noobiness, I only intended to make a slingshot in the first place.
NOTE: a shotgun is a gun that shoots SHOT, rifles are very different from shotguns, to be a shotgun, it needs to fire spraying particles.
Don't laugh at my noobiness, I only intended to make a slingshot in the first place.
#90874 First Try At Stefans
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on 30 September 2006 - 09:39 AM
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1) weight could be an issue. By BBs we mean metal BBs for airguns. Somepeople use those. Others use size 3/0 fishing weights. Weaker springers require lighter weights.
2) BBBs require a longer barrel than a crayola
3) The dart to barrel fitmight not be correct. You have to remember not everyone has the same brand of foam and barrel materials. Not every pack of FBR is going to be the same exact size.
Im getting unbelievably long ranges with a 1/4" tiny pvc ring in the barrel, I don't belive in long barrels working, its just a myth
#90873 New Version Bbb Mod
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on 30 September 2006 - 09:31 AM
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Very nice. What is the BBB's stock range or out of the box by the way?
it does shoot around 30' stock, but when I tried it with Big Salvo arrows It went somewhere around 70', It was pretty awsome. the salvo arrows were more front heavy and shorter, plus the wings dont fall off. But now my bbb only shoots Micro darts because of the liberally applied duct tape around the barrel.
#90710 Xbow Mega Mod
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on 28 September 2006 - 04:21 PM
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The more of these awsome xbow mods i see, the more i wish I had cared about nerf when I was younger...
#90703 Bbb Slight Problem
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on 28 September 2006 - 03:56 PM
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your fine, the nubs dont really matter, it's supposed to look like a real arrow being pulled back. It's all cosmetic, ignore it
#90700 Barrel Extension Idea
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on 28 September 2006 - 03:46 PM
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But what would a longer barrel do, I mean, there are two factors here.
1. A dart should not have to pass fully through a barrel, this was the fatal mistake nerf made in the Ls
2. without the factor of a dart passing through the barrel, there is no reason to elongate it.
I am not inducing a flame here, I just don't feel that longer barrels serve a purpose, only tighter-more pressurized-barrels
1. A dart should not have to pass fully through a barrel, this was the fatal mistake nerf made in the Ls
2. without the factor of a dart passing through the barrel, there is no reason to elongate it.
I am not inducing a flame here, I just don't feel that longer barrels serve a purpose, only tighter-more pressurized-barrels
#90635 Super Easy Bbb Mods?
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on 27 September 2006 - 06:51 PM
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I want to get a BBB, and to mod it, but without getting any stuff from stores(barrels, foam, etc.). I've checked on google and the search, and I can't find anything! Help!
P.S. I know I that i suck, just gimme a break.
Okay, i did an incredibly simple bbb mod, following loosely along several others, I unscrewed it, and took out that front air restrictor, remember, ONLY the front, not the thing with the little spring attached.
I dremmeled down the four little nubs that keep that front button thing from spinning or coming out.
Then i simply shoved a 2" crayola barrel down it and duct taped it on like crazy.
At first i had this dumb pvc ring instead of the crayola stuck to the front, but it was really inaccurate and i won't try to explain it.
Apparently it's "impossible *********" to get 105' which was my record until i was told it was "--------" So I have been instructed by General Cole (i think that's his name) to remove the apparently "false" distance from my stated record.
