KaneTheMediocre, on Nov 25 2010, 12:07 PM, said:
louiec3, on Nov 24 2010, 06:42 PM, said:
I'd believe that some people would be dumb enough to nerf without eye protection considering there are those that are dumb enough to post comments that DO NOT help our stand that this is a safe hobby...
Ryan Kreterfield, on Nov 24 2010, 11:13 AM, said:
Actually some nerf guns have been tested through chronographs at hitting 250 fps or over, like an Airtech3000 or most guns from the SuperMAXX line. Take that into account with metal weights and glue domes or a 2mm thick felt pad, and people will get welts and bruises very similar to paintball. I’VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN BEFORE.
Also they didn’t even mention homemade nerf guns which shoot upwards of 300 fps. I’ve created many guns that shoot this far and enjoy the pain it causes when it strikes others. Call me a sadist, but nerf sucks at their job.
Ryan denies posting this, and if it were him, he probably would have gotten the FPS data correct. None of the homemade blasters we built/measured have gotten past the 200-250 range, but plugged big blasts have clocked over 350.
From this we can conclude that the poster is likely, but not certainly, someone who wasn't at the final Chano where we tested all this on Klaviel's chrono. Also it's probably someone who hates Ryan, and can't convert between inches and mm (The felt pads from mcmaster are 1/8", which is a hair over 3mm).
Ryan IS a douchebag on the internet, but I don't think he's dumb enough to post this. Besides, if he enjoyed causing people pain, why would he have spent the last summer hating on glue dome darts. and trying to get them banned everywhere else (having already succeeded in purging them from the midwest nerf community.
That said, SOMEONE posted this. And that someone has seriously compromised the reputation of the homebrew / modded nerf community, just so they can satisfy a childish grudge.
Yeah, I saw this a few days ago. That's pretty childish of you guys. I'm almost 100% sure this comment either came from Snake (most likely), or Louie himself. But seriously? To emphasize what Kane said, I was the first person to take the initiative to regulate the darts we use at wars and successfully eliminate hot glue domes, and slingshot weights. Let me remind you also that you guys were no less apart of the "arms race" than we were, using high powered blasters, slingshot weighted darts, and 16" exposed brass speedloaders. We have all learned from mistakes in the past, but there's no reason to bring up "getting knocked out" by a nerf dart to the media. Newflash, it's not fucking 2008 anymore. Things have changed quite a bit and a lot of us have matured, but apparently some of us haven't. We've gone as far as supplying all of the ammo for everyone at our wars, making sure all the ammo is safe, and that we know there is nothing dangerous flying around. It's the war hosts responsibility for making sure no one gets hurt, something you obviously failed at in previous wars of yours that I've attended.
So whether or not a random TV crew just decided to show up for your Nerf war or not, why the hell are you even talking to them? Why give the media an opportunity to tell everyone in our immediate area, that what we're doing is something dangerous and something illegal in society. How can you not expect the media to take every little thing you say and turn them into a negative to make us look bad? Now of course after seeing a report like this, any tax-payer is going to think negatively towards our hobby. Next time we're out in a park and someone spots us, we'll be called on immediately, especially after instances in the past we've had. Next thing you know, we'll have no where to nerf.
Now I know you guys don't really give two fucks about getting your location ruined since you have an "alliance" with the local community and police. But seriously. Just shut the fuck up. You can have your shitty wars, and I don't care. But don't fuck it up for everyone else who doesn't like your wars.
Also, I'd like the comments from the CBS article,
posted as me, to be removed immediately.
Sorry for possibly creating another shit storm, but I couldn't go without putting my words in this thread. My ACTUAL words.
