56 replies to this topic

[Oni Kadaki]

The "blinded in the eye" thing is garbage. You could get hurt in the same way with a non-modded gun.

Bullshit, getting hit in the eye with a plastic suction cup is one thing. Getting hit in the eye with a BB-tipped dart going much faster than the other is quite another.

[lionhawk]

The "blinded in the eye" thing is garbage. You could get hurt in the same way with a non-modded gun.

Bullshit, getting hit in the eye with a plastic suction cup is one thing. Getting hit in the eye with a BB-tipped dart going much faster than the other is quite another.

It would still hurt bad right in the eye. I know it doesn't seem that big of a deal, but getting shot in the eye by a suction cup at close range CAN hurt. Although it wouldn't hurt most people, it would to 6, 7, and 8 year-olds, who are the main buyers.

Edited by lionhawk, 25 November 2010 - 11:58 AM.

[Oni Kadaki]

The "blinded in the eye" thing is garbage. You could get hurt in the same way with a non-modded gun.

Bullshit, getting hit in the eye with a plastic suction cup is one thing. Getting hit in the eye with a BB-tipped dart going much faster than the other is quite another.

It would still hurt bad right in the eye. I know it doesn't seem that big of a deal, but getting shot in the eye by a suction cup at close range CAN hurt. Although it wouldn't hurt most people, it would to 6, 7, and 8 year-olds, who are the main buyers.

It hurts, yes. I was shot point-blank in the eye a couple of years back with a stock gun, probably a maverick. I sat out for 5 minutes, then got back in the game. That is not how it would go if you swapped in a nitemav loaded with stefans.

[lionhawk]

The "blinded in the eye" thing is garbage. You could get hurt in the same way with a non-modded gun.

Bullshit, getting hit in the eye with a plastic suction cup is one thing. Getting hit in the eye with a BB-tipped dart going much faster than the other is quite another.

It would still hurt bad right in the eye. I know it doesn't seem that big of a deal, but getting shot in the eye by a suction cup at close range CAN hurt. Although it wouldn't hurt most people, it would to 6, 7, and 8 year-olds, who are the main buyers.

It hurts, yes. I was shot point-blank in the eye a couple of years back with a stock gun, probably a maverick. I sat out for 5 minutes, then got back in the game. That is not how it would go if you swapped in a nitemav loaded with stefans.

"You could get hurt in the same way", this doesn't mean a modded gun will hurt just as much as a stock gun.

[KaneTheMediocre]

I'd believe that some people would be dumb enough to nerf without eye protection considering there are those that are dumb enough to post comments that DO NOT help our stand that this is a safe hobby...

Actually some nerf guns have been tested through chronographs at hitting 250 fps or over, like an Airtech3000 or most guns from the SuperMAXX line. Take that into account with metal weights and glue domes or a 2mm thick felt pad, and people will get welts and bruises very similar to paintball. I’VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN BEFORE.

Also they didn’t even mention homemade nerf guns which shoot upwards of 300 fps. I’ve created many guns that shoot this far and enjoy the pain it causes when it strikes others. Call me a sadist, but nerf sucks at their job.

Ryan denies posting this, and if it were him, he probably would have gotten the FPS data correct. None of the homemade blasters we built/measured have gotten past the 200-250 range, but plugged big blasts have clocked over 350.

From this we can conclude that the poster is likely, but not certainly, someone who wasn't at the final Chano where we tested all this on Klaviel's chrono. Also it's probably someone who hates Ryan, and can't convert between inches and mm (The felt pads from mcmaster are 1/8", which is a hair over 3mm).

Ryan IS a douchebag on the internet, but I don't think he's dumb enough to post this. Besides, if he enjoyed causing people pain, why would he have spent the last summer hating on glue dome darts. and trying to get them banned everywhere else (having already succeeded in purging them from the midwest nerf community.

That said, SOMEONE posted this. And that someone has seriously compromised the reputation of the homebrew / modded nerf community, just so they can satisfy a childish grudge.

[TOTtomdora]

Wow. Like other people said, these reporters are paid to get these sorts of negative stories. People out there like depressing stories in the news; after all, there has never been a single positive story in the news I've seen. If you were the public mass out there, would you prefer something nice, like 'researchers have made a breakthrough with a cure for the common cold' (I don't know, I'm just thinking of something positive that could possibly be in the news) or would you like 'five people were shot and killed in crossfire between the police and terrorists'? We are humans, after all. Most humans can't help but like this depressing stuff. But really, why oppose Nerf when there's other stuff more dangerous? Like football.
Edit: Forgot to mention I absolutely hate it when someone calls it 'nerfs', my mom does it and it drives me crazy.

Edited by TOTtomdora, 25 November 2010 - 03:48 PM.

[UberLeetSniper]

Haven't posted here much, been afraid of the ban hammer, but I've been lurking around for about a year and a half and just wanted to give my two cents in.(forgive any spelling mistakes...I'm in the car on an iPad)
What the media did to our hobby, as far as the article goes is what I call typical media bullshit. They were probably watching the forum for months WAITING for SOMEone to slip through and be a moron then get their "statement" and as someone said in the comments section, slander the hobby. But as Talio said, for now on we will have to try to operate in obscurity as much as possible and even then if they get someone who slips through, they will probably remember the one important lesson out of all this, "no comment" me, I wouldn't say a damn thing. All of us in the NIC as a whole are a band of brothers and we have to look out for each other. We are a "foam military" of sorts but only a military for fun, harmless competition. Forgive me for using a word that probably isn't appropriate given the situation. As Brit said, let's forget this incident and just get back out in the beautiful sun and start flinging foam again. I won't go any further, I think I made a wall of text (the rage paragraphs)

[Ice Nine]

What the media did to our hobby, as far as the article goes is what I call typical media bullshit. They were probably watching the forum for months WAITING for SOMEone to slip through and be a moron

This is some J. Jonah Jameson shit, and we're Spiderman.

For reals though, that post was fucking hilarious.

Edited by Ice Nine, 25 November 2010 - 03:14 PM.

[Niteshot]

My -2 cents.
That kid with the black recon is clearly some Ice Worshiping fucktard. All of these idiots who even decided to fucking talk to these reporters are morons. Now, we're going to see Uber Hard to mod guns coming out, cause Hasbro's gonna fucking flip out. Here we go, guys. Thanks a fuckin' ton.

[lionhawk]

My -2 cents.
That kid with the black recon is clearly some Ice Worshiping fucktard. All of these idiots who even decided to fucking talk to these reporters are morons. Now, we're going to see Uber Hard to mod guns coming out, cause Hasbro's gonna fucking flip out. Here we go, guys. Thanks a fuckin' ton.

That isn't certain. And besides, we could get around the "impossibles" to modify. The nitefinder tube was glued together, solution, cutting the pipe. I'm sure if hasbro even makes "unmodifiable" guns, we could find ways to get around them, just like the nitefinder.

[minsc]

This is a link to the Mass Effect sex scene scandal:


OH NO! The news reported on it and misrepresented facts, no one is allowed to sell it any more. Oh wait...
Chill out guys, Hasbro is going to do the same stuff they've always been doing, which is making as much money on plastic toys as possible.

Also some of you seem to forget that just because Hasbro is the only company allowed to use the term "Nerf" dart blaster, it doesn't mean that they are your only source of blasters. (Shout out to Lanard, Buzzbee, and your local Home Depot/PVC pipe brand)

Edited by minsc, 25 November 2010 - 05:03 PM.

[cheerios]

My -2 cents.
That kid with the black recon is clearly some Ice Worshiping fucktard. All of these idiots who even decided to fucking talk to these reporters are morons. Now, we're going to see Uber Hard to mod guns coming out, cause Hasbro's gonna fucking flip out. Here we go, guys. Thanks a fuckin' ton.

That isn't certain. And besides, we could get around the "impossibles" to modify. The nitefinder tube was glued together, solution, cutting the pipe. I'm sure if hasbro even makes "unmodifiable" guns, we could find ways to get around them, just like the nitefinder.

Or everyone could just convert to homemade blasters.

[lionhawk]

My -2 cents.
That kid with the black recon is clearly some Ice Worshiping fucktard. All of these idiots who even decided to fucking talk to these reporters are morons. Now, we're going to see Uber Hard to mod guns coming out, cause Hasbro's gonna fucking flip out. Here we go, guys. Thanks a fuckin' ton.

That isn't certain. And besides, we could get around the "impossibles" to modify. The nitefinder tube was glued together, solution, cutting the pipe. I'm sure if hasbro even makes "unmodifiable" guns, we could find ways to get around them, just like the nitefinder.

Or everyone could just convert to homemade blasters.

That, is the truth, plain truth.

[durka durka]

When the news-ertainment media report a balanced story or give all the facts, the ratings suck.

Expect to be misrepresented. Grossly. Intentionally. Bullshit sells, and it's only about the selling, never really about the reporting. Walter Cronkite is dead.

This is the state of the media today. They look for the outcome that will sell more instead of just reporting facts. Fear sells.

(And yes, I know who Walter Cronkite is.)

[Abyss Mods]

Niteshot: I doubt that will happen considering Hasbro is perfectly aware of our site and other sites. They also give us notification of new blasters before they are posted on their Facebook page.

[kidame tomanaka]

everyone should just go back to nerfing, im sure everyone has posted their well enough amount of educated statements to prove that we can do nothing to change how the media looks at us, especially fox for giving Nerfers a bad name now, even Hdingo went underground (noted, it was his dad who preformed most of the mods, and im sure most of you wont care about his leaving but i will, no offence but i personally liked his cosmetic mods,) and weather or not anyone is to blame for the media getting at us, ice, the "headshot kid" the media clearly took things out of context,as to say the "death darts" no one here at NH does that, and we dont alow these kind of things at wars,If they really wanted to get the full detail about moding nerf guns, all they have to do is to have a one on one interview with majority of our admins from our big family tree of nerf forum sites.

ps. talio is always right, "no comment"

Edited by kidame tomanaka, 25 November 2010 - 09:01 PM.

[HappyHalloween]

Lolwut? Wait let me get this straight. Some one got knocked out by a Nerf dart. News comes in and spams fear to parents. Why are we mad? We already can Nerf. We just do what we did before right. Comply with law enforcement. Nerf is not going to make impossible to mod blasters. If they do so what! Buzz bee is better anyways.

[Niteshot]

Lolwut? Wait let me get this straight. Some one got knocked out by a Nerf dart. News comes in and spams fear to parents. Why are we mad? We already can Nerf. We just do what we did before right. Comply with law enforcement. Nerf is not going to make impossible to mod blasters. If they do so what! Buzz bee is better anyways.

And with that last statement, I completely discredit your post as a valid argument.

[xet]

This is just bullshit I mean seriously as said before the media is paid to find fucking propaganda like this, as well as twisting your words to mean what the media wants them to be. They're going batshit insane over a Nitefinder shooting 75 feet MAX. If a dart that could only go 75 feet and it hit you at 75 feet would'nt even hurt.

Edited by xet, 25 November 2010 - 10:45 PM.

[Talio]

Okay guys, settle down. It doesn't mean anything. It just means that you need to comply with the cops and not get your tits in a knot when they ask you to leave. It also means, don't talk to the media just because it will get you attention. Because it will only result in negative attention. Just use your brains and keep this shit out of the public eye whenever possible. And relax.

[Niteshot]

For the first time in my life, I agree with Tailo!
Its a damn miracle!

[durka durka]

Lolwut? Wait let me get this straight. Some one got knocked out by a Nerf dart. News comes in and spams fear to parents. Why are we mad? We already can Nerf. We just do what we did before right. Comply with law enforcement. Nerf is not going to make impossible to mod blasters. If they do so what! Buzz bee is better anyways.

And with that last statement, I completely discredit your post as a valid argument.

Which company isn't cranking out reverse plunger remakes of the same blaster again?

[Niteshot]

Lolwut? Wait let me get this straight. Some one got knocked out by a Nerf dart. News comes in and spams fear to parents. Why are we mad? We already can Nerf. We just do what we did before right. Comply with law enforcement. Nerf is not going to make impossible to mod blasters. If they do so what! Buzz bee is better anyways.

And with that last statement, I completely discredit your post as a valid argument.

Which company isn't cranking out reverse plunger remakes of the same blaster again?

Which company is cranking out unreliable blasters using stupid shells to fire darts?
Which company popped up after the other started dominating the toy market?

[Talio]

Here's another thing you're gonna have to agree with me on, Redshot. Shut the fuck up.

[Niteshot]

Here's another thing you're gonna have to agree with me on, Redshot. Shut the fuck up.

Wrong guy. The Name's Niteshot.

Which company popped up after the other started dominating the toy market?

History is a good idea. You should study it.

BuzzBee was founded by the people who brought us Supermaxx, after they felt Hasbro was messing it all up.

Well, there goes my argument. I'm going to stop being a douchebag and shut the fuck up, now. All hail Tailo, lord of the fucking world.