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#276 analogkid

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 10:48 PM

Please Pm me if someone said this already and I'll take this down.


If everyone here included this in their post, this thread would be 2 pages long.
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#277 GodOThunder8882

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 01:21 AM

Wow, I'm really excited about the drum mag, yet I'm disappointed that I just a month ago FINALLY found clips in walmart and dropped 20 bucks on clips that I will soon have almost no use for... Oh well, awesome work hasbro. :huh:

Just so you know, you can still use those clips with this gun.
(i apologize if you already knew this, but it sounds lke you did'nt.)



I knew, but why would I use a 6 shot mag when I could have a 36 shot drum mag, you're only vulnerable when you're out of ammo.
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#278 durka durka

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 06:13 AM

Wow, I'm really excited about the drum mag, yet I'm disappointed that I just a month ago FINALLY found clips in walmart and dropped 20 bucks on clips that I will soon have almost no use for... Oh well, awesome work hasbro. :huh:

Just so you know, you can still use those clips with this gun.
(i apologize if you already knew this, but it sounds lke you did'nt.)



I knew, but why would I use a 6 shot mag when I could have a 36 shot drum mag, you're only vulnerable when you're out of ammo.


Thats what a regular clip is for; when you're out of ammo. Have fun trying to reload a 36 shot clip in the middle of a nerf war (assuming that you shoot off all 36 darts in a round). We already know how to mod our clips to use stefans. Doing the same for a drum mag might be much more harder.

Edited by durka durka, 27 May 2009 - 06:04 PM.

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#279 Oni Kadaki

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 10:06 AM

I personally intend to begin a round with the drum in the gun, and then switch to the normal clips once it's spent. As you said, lugging a bunch of 35 shot clips around kinda sucks.
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Posted 03 March 2009 - 06:18 PM

Wow, I'm really excited about the drum mag, yet I'm disappointed that I just a month ago FINALLY found clips in walmart and dropped 20 bucks on clips that I will soon have almost no use for... Oh well, awesome work hasbro. :blush:

Just so you know, you can still use those clips with this gun.
(i apologize if you already knew this, but it sounds lke you did'nt.)



I knew, but why would I use a 6 shot mag when I could have a 36 shot drum mag, you're only vulnerable when you're out of ammo.


Thats what a regular clip is for; when your out of ammo. Have fun trying to reload a 36 shot clip in the middle of a nerf war (assuming that you shoot off all 36 darts in a round). We already know how to mod our clips to use stefans. Doing the same for a drum mag might be much more harder.


Exactly, I mean how the hell do you carry around more than 1 drum mag easily? It's a lot easier to carry around a 6 shot clip.
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 10:47 AM

I knew, but why would I use a 6 shot mag when I could have a 36 shot drum mag, you're only vulnerable when you're out of ammo.
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Exactly, I mean how the hell do you carry around more than 1 drum mag easily? It's a lot easier to carry around a 6 shot clip.
[/quote] Seriously with a 35 round clip you wouldn't need more than one well if you were fighting the chines. army

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 11:41 AM

You guys can argue over tactics and which clips to carry when you have the gun. Right now, you're just making fools out of yourselves.
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 02:02 PM

A lot of it depends on which takes up more space, one of these drums or six standard magazines.

Edited by Cmdrmack, 04 March 2009 - 02:02 PM.

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#284 SchizophrenicMC

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 09:31 PM

A lot of it depends on which takes up more space, one of these drums or six standard magazines.

Yes. And I hope the drum can take a beating, because at wars, I'm likely to use it all up, drop the mag, and slide a "fresh magazine in with a satisfying 'click'". 3/15, right? That gives me... 15 and a half kills with my current setup. :)
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#285 Ambience 327

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 10:12 AM

A lot of it depends on which takes up more space, one of these drums or six standard magazines.



It isn't quite that simple. Keep in mind that the six standard mags can be placed in different pockets/pouches/etc., while a single 35-round drum mag would be placed in a single location. Even if the six standard mags have more total volume, you could keep each of them in a seperate pocket in a pair of cargo pants without hampering your mobility too much, but I doubt you'd be able to fit the drum mag in any but the most ridiculously large pockets. Chances are, if you wanted to carry extra drums, you'd need a backpack or some kind of dedicated container - or attach a good belt clip to the drum. In either case, you'd probably notice it a bit more than the standard mags.
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#286 Oni Kadaki

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 10:19 AM

You guys can argue over tactics and which clips to carry when you have the gun. Right now, you're just making fools out of yourselves.


I disagree captain. Even though we don't have the gun, we can make several reasonable assumptions about the drum mags vs. regular clips, and disucss their use based on those assumptions.
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Posted 05 March 2009 - 10:35 AM

I knew, but why would I use a 6 shot mag when I could have a 36 shot drum mag, you're only vulnerable when you're out of ammo.


When it comes down to the wire, if you have one more shot than your opponent, he's screwed.

This is amazing, I've been waiting for nerf to release something new.
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#288 ninja mods

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 07:36 PM

i was wondering if they have even a close date for when this gun is coming out.
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#289 cheesypiza001

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 08:58 PM

i was wondering if they have even a close date for when this gun is coming out.


Yeah I'm sure they do. Search this thread.
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#290 one shot one kill

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 06:53 PM

Why are you guys complaining about the drum being to big to carry. I you think about it you carry the same amount of ammo with 6 clips, when you carry one drum.
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Posted 07 March 2009 - 01:04 PM

Well, If your drum breaks in mid war your screwed. If a clip breaks you still have more clips. When It comes down to it like that, Clips would be a better alternative, Also with all those parts making a 36 clip possible it's bound to jam or break.
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Posted 07 March 2009 - 05:50 PM

I'm thinking that you could just add a hook somewhere on the drum mag, whether it be attached by screws or glue, and attach it to your belt via a carabiner. That way, you can still run around without it hindering movement much. It still would be noisy though because it would keep bouncing around as you run..

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 10:33 PM

Well, If your drum breaks in mid war your screwed. If a clip breaks you still have more clips. When It comes down to it like that, Clips would be a better alternative, Also with all those parts making a 36 clip possible it's bound to jam or break.



good point. I will take that in consideration when I get it and finally use it.
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#294 SchizophrenicMC

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 11:17 PM

Well, If your drum breaks in mid war your screwed. If a clip breaks you still have more clips. When It comes down to it like that, Clips would be a better alternative, Also with all those parts making a 36 clip possible it's bound to jam or break.

Is that why people don't use the LS to begin with? There's a lot of moving parts in one of those.


It's all about the tradeoffs. You trade possiblity for jamming with range in the LS, so why not do the same for non-stop ammo capacity?

You're right, to be sure, but...

On the same token, I don't think there'll be many moving parts in it.
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#295 GodOThunder8882

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 03:58 PM

Wow, I'm really excited about the drum mag, yet I'm disappointed that I just a month ago FINALLY found clips in walmart and dropped 20 bucks on clips that I will soon have almost no use for... Oh well, awesome work hasbro. :huh:

Just so you know, you can still use those clips with this gun.
(i apologize if you already knew this, but it sounds lke you did'nt.)



I knew, but why would I use a 6 shot mag when I could have a 36 shot drum mag, you're only vulnerable when you're out of ammo.


Thats what a regular clip is for; when your out of ammo. Have fun trying to reload a 36 shot clip in the middle of a nerf war (assuming that you shoot off all 36 darts in a round). We already know how to mod our clips to use stefans. Doing the same for a drum mag might be much more harder.


Exactly, I mean how the hell do you carry around more than 1 drum mag easily? It's a lot easier to carry around a 6 shot clip.


So... Start with the drum mag, if it runs out resort to your back up clips (however many you choose to carry) and use those until you have a good safe place to reload your drum mag. Long story short even if you have extra clips, in the amount of time it takes you to switch clips, you can be completely screwed over or cornered. Simple statistics dictate that the less often you have to switch out your clips the less vulnerable you are overall. I really don't understand why my point has taken so much to comprehend. It's a really simple idea...
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 03:59 PM

sorry double post.. ignore.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 05:16 PM

assuming this thing has a halfway decent size plunger and good seal, hello new primary :huh:
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 08:02 PM

Also, (not sure if anyone mentioned this) but where exactly would you put the drum mag? There really is no sticking it in your pocket like the 6 roung mags. You also wouldn't want to leave it on the ground.

Just a little something to think about...
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#299 SchizophrenicMC

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 08:59 PM

Also, (not sure if anyone mentioned this) but where exactly would you put the drum mag? There really is no sticking it in your pocket like the 6 roung mags. You also wouldn't want to leave it on the ground.

Just a little something to think about...

Make it so a carabiner will hang onto it and hook it onto a belt loop.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:01 PM

I'm with Slug, this is a little pointless. It seems that we enjoy arguing more than speculating. When the gun hits the shelves we will all know.

It was my understanding that we were to add our opinion as to how the Raider was going to function, nothing more. Instead we bicker over something that, as Slug has said, has already been created!
I read 21 pages on this thread, most of each page was someone telling someone else they were wrong, or in some cases stupid, for there speculation.

None of us has fired the gun, nor have any of us seen the inside, thus until the gun hits the stores, in essence, no one is right. Were just guessing.

*whew* alright I've added my $.02.
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