Wow. This shit turned sour fast. I already knew about this whole thing so I didn't have much to say, but now that I've realized you've all lost your minds...
The only gun I'm sad to see banned are Salvo's, and it's not even that bad.
The Chimera at Apoc '08 shot (assuming, I remember it being more) unplugged BBBB ranges with (your words) a "40% efficient" barrel/setup/whatever you did to it. You even said so in your thread that you have more efficient barrels in the works. All it would take is one of those to get back to being a singled titan with a grip.
OMC, as it was explained to me, is a "Nested clan." Smooth.
Fenix, if you really think the only way to beat a crossbow is with a crossbow, play some more. I think a lot of people now can attest to me (and many, many others) taking out multiple crossbowman at once, several times (very notably in PA War 2).
Doomsayer isn't really banned because it's "too good," at least, in my opinion. It dominates in every category, and has no weakness. And there's nothing else like it yet. So unless you had another doomsayer, you're always at a huge disadvantage, which takes out all strategy for the doomsayer player, and takes out all of the fun for his (or her!) opponent.
I do actually have a slight problem with the range of a doomsayer.. Though I personally ban them only at small wars, where it's a lot more likely that you'll get shot close range, multiple times.
Jwasko, you're right about the unplugged pumps, but it also includes using bike pumps, like many Marvelous Salvos.
As for working on the next big thing, it's the same as us making HPA powered guns. Other than Slug's Magstrike, I don't think anyone ever intends to let them be war legal, and such is assumed when people make them. After talking to Vacc and Talio several times, they told me a few of the projects on my workbench would likely be banned if they worked as planned, but that's not going to stop me. It is always cool to have one of those things that dominates in every category; using it in a war is not, and shouldn't be, the only reason we make them. Look for the upcoming LGLF article "Why we single titans." Hah.
Edit: I think Rambo has a noteworthy point, but not really to the extent he takes it to. I plan on hosting a few wars (albeit mostly private). You, Rambo have hosted in the past successfully. Ice plans on having bi-monthly wars. FA has his 2+ wars a year. The Mass. group has some stuff going on up there. I don't really think these guys came together so that they can standardize all of the major wars; it just works out that way because the longest running (and therefore best known and best attended) annual/bi-annual wars are run by the longest standing members. And those are the ones in this clan.
I do like diversity in rule sets, but that's what all of the individual Mag 7 members' hosted wars are going to be about. New, temporary, rule sets and game type to shake things up a bit.
~~~to those in Mag 7~~~
I was wondering what you guys plan on allowing for pistol rounds? I agree that 'Splats and Urukai crossbows should not
be allowed, but what about turreted guns and things with mechanisms such as the Sharp shooter2 and such.
Edited by Splitlip, 08 January 2009 - 10:03 AM.