The Vulcan: Internals And Mods! New Mods Pg.9!
#76
Posted 25 July 2008 - 06:39 PM
I want one bad, but the recon didn't come out in stores near me until late april/early may, so it will be a while. A spring replacement would really help. I guess that if you got a spring 3x as strong, it would increase the ROF to about 1 shot a second, which is still really good for a weapon that I guess might equal gforce's BS ranges.
It's just screaming to be rearloading...
I seen a movie about that once.
#77
Posted 25 July 2008 - 07:34 PM
Removed the air restrictor and it's bracket
Removed 50 Pegs (very annoying - I highly recommend using a sharp razor blade)
New O-ring, makes a perfect seal, not too tight, not too loose)
New lube (O-ring lube, just like FA ordered)
Experimental mod:
removed manual cocking mechanism. Very simple to do. I found that it was an unnecessary section because when you're using the motor, it just disengages. As such, it has no affect on any of the results.
And of course, you've all seen that it's minimized.
I used fresh out of the pack Energizer batteries (I prefer Duracell, but they were out).
I also used stefans, approx. 2 inch, the "Red Rangers" darts. Weighted with 3/0 fishing weights. I picked 50 at random, out of a bag of about 90. Basically only 10 of the darts in this bag had ever even been fired, so there was no bias.
I measured time with my stopwatch.
No crosswind, a shit load of mosquitoes.
I'm in New Jersey, it's flat as hell. No worries there. About 3 feet above sea level, 60% humidity or so. About 80 degrees fahrenheit.
Here's the scale: Two 25ft tape measures
Here's the grouping:
And a closer view: About 19.5 Feet on average
Here's the furthest shot at 24 feet:
The gun shot 21 rounds in 13 seconds, for an average of 1.61538462 darts per second.
Why only 21 shots? The barrel rotator cracked. Split into three pieces. Reparable? Probably. Ridiculous? Very
I do have many detailed pictures of the internals and what they do. I'll be editing them as promised and posting them later.
Definitely not 65 feet average chief.
Edited by Splitlip, 25 July 2008 - 07:55 PM.
#78
Posted 25 July 2008 - 07:56 PM
Very strange indeed. *scratches head*
#79
Posted 25 July 2008 - 07:58 PM
#80
Posted 25 July 2008 - 08:03 PM
Everyone thought you'd get 70' out of this gun. After looking at the plunger tube, it's pretty much impossible. Although I'd like to see someone prove me wrong. It doesn't surprise me at all that the gun only gets 20'.Every single post about the vulcan makes me want it less. First is 75 foot range. Then its 35 then its 20 with uber modding....
Very strange indeed. *scratches head*
g-force, you are an Effeminate failure.
#81
Posted 25 July 2008 - 08:06 PM
It's just screaming to be rearloading...
I seen a movie about that once.
#82
Posted 25 July 2008 - 08:11 PM
It's a motorized longshot, minus the huge plunger and a fancier clip system in my eyes. I'll see what I can do with it. I'll really have to see where I can take it if I can't fix that rotator.
But 3/4ths of the reason the ls is so good is becase of its good range.
With out that 3/4ths or so , its like only 3/7ths as good as the ls.
You must have a bad one somehow. according to this (even its mega angled) His shot 40 with no mods. ***more head scratchin***
#83
Posted 25 July 2008 - 08:11 PM
edit: I also took the main ar out. now it will not fire at all, even in single fire mode
Edited by omglead, 25 July 2008 - 08:15 PM.
CDdts r great u new to nerf if u dont know how to make them NOOB
Tannman500
#84
Posted 25 July 2008 - 08:21 PM
Edited by Splitlip, 25 July 2008 - 08:24 PM.
#85
Posted 25 July 2008 - 08:23 PM
CDdts r great u new to nerf if u dont know how to make them NOOB
Tannman500
#86
Posted 25 July 2008 - 08:26 PM
I did not angle the gun while taking ranges. Those are the real ranges.
And this is the internet.
#87
Posted 25 July 2008 - 08:28 PM
-A side of nerd
Edited by A side of nerf, 25 July 2008 - 08:30 PM.
#88
Posted 25 July 2008 - 08:31 PM
*Heroic Music as if something is emerging from the dark*
The Forsaken one...
Blaffair to Rememblack.
#89
Posted 25 July 2008 - 08:34 PM
Could it be possible that maybe this gun is better with no mods. Perhaps having such a delicate internal structure has made it so it needs no mods, and that variations to the equilibrium of the stock parts hinder it in range and performance....I can't believe I just said that.
-A side of nerd
Yes, i am thinking the same thing. I took out the main ars in my gun and it would not fire, at all.
CDdts r great u new to nerf if u dont know how to make them NOOB
Tannman500
#90
Posted 25 July 2008 - 09:04 PM
-A side of nerd
Don't you hate how the D and F keys are so close together?
I'm having a hard time believing that this gun gets 20' ranges modded. I'm starting to think that Chinese quality control fucked you over. Looking at the internals, this gun looks capable of Nite-finder ranges, or at least Recon ranges. I could see 20' if there was a poor seal between the belt and the plunger tube, but the thing moves forward and seals with the belt... and the plunger tube may not be LS-sized, but it's still decent.
Or another thought: Those 20' ranges are flat ranges. I have NEVER fired a gun flat in a nerf war. Even with guns that are capable of 70+ ranges flat, I still angle my shots. Even if I don't try to, it seems like I'm naturally inclined to fire the gun at at least a 10 degree angle. I'd like to know how far this gun fires when you hold it comfortably and fire it, which would more than likely be angled.
Probably dead by now, or something.
#91
Posted 25 July 2008 - 09:23 PM
where did u buy your gun at????
sorry
GMD
#92
Posted 25 July 2008 - 09:25 PM
I'd like to know how far this gun fires when you hold it comfortably and fire it, which would more than likely be angled.
At 20' this gun will not be very applicable for war use. At 50' flat it could actually be useful. I'm sure it's possible to get 50' with proper modification.20 feet at zero degree angle works out to about 50 feet at a 45 degree by the way.
#93
Posted 25 July 2008 - 09:32 PM
Please do not flame me for ranges, they are estimates, but fairly close estimates.
Edited by mrcrouse1, 25 July 2008 - 09:36 PM.
#94
Posted 25 July 2008 - 09:45 PM
So I decided to test the sonic micros, and they achieved around 35 feet.
As far as ranges go:
I believe you Mr Crouse. I also believe splitlip. The answer for the difference is simple. 3/0 is too heavy for the power/amount of air coming out of it. My Magstrike can shoot stock darts farther than Stefans. My old RFR could fire bb weighted stefans farther than 3/0 stefans any day. The Vulcan may only be able to handle heavier weights with a spring replacement.
I don't feel the way I used to do.
I know its bad,
After what we had,
But I’m just not the angel you knew.
#95
Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:01 PM
Edited by mrcrouse1, 25 July 2008 - 10:05 PM.
#96
Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:11 PM
< One foot in death...The other in life. >
#97
Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:16 PM
I have to focus on the fucking rotator right now. And maybe replacing the manual pieces. We'll see.
#98
Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:18 PM
Angel, have you ordered one yet, or does hasbro not ship to Canada/ are you waiting for them to be in walmart?
#99
Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:29 PM
I was able to pre-order them through Target. They get delivered to my anonymous friend.
Then my anonymous friend ships them to me. The problem is Target is taking their sweet fucking time.
I may end up seeing them in stores before they are shipped to me. In which case I will buy a couple anyway.
I am learning from the basic mods you guys have done so far. I am also learning which pieces need to be reinforced through what is breaking on you guys.
As far as modding one goes. I need to fully understand how one works before I tinker with it.
I am giving all you kiddies a reminder when opening a complicated Nerf gun.
Take internal photos! With something like the Vulcan you will need many photos. From many angles.
I don't feel the way I used to do.
I know its bad,
After what we had,
But I’m just not the angel you knew.
#100
Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:34 PM
Edited by mrcrouse1, 25 July 2008 - 10:37 PM.
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