Finally! I saw this thread when you started it, but NerfHaven took like 2 weeks to validate my account!

There really isn't any money in buying and selling nerf. I know. The user Shinkrillin on Ebay who sells so many guns is a guy I work with in the whole Nerf resale process. I acquire the nerf guns used from sources around the city, and give them to him to fix, clean, and if requested upgrade. Yeah, 60 bucks for a gun you paid 50 cents for sounds good, but it doesn't happen that often and for the most part, it's not really worth the time to try to make a nerf resale business out of it. He makes enough to pay a couple bills and that's about it. Between the two of us, however, we've probably had over 200 guns. One or two of every gun, at least. We've tested the best and worst nerf had to offer.

Now many of you might have noticed how the older guns like the Crossbow and Sharpshooter have problems with cracking from age, or from overmodding. I've seen a lot of people drop 60 bucks on a Lock n Load, put too big a spring in it, have the gun crack beyond repair. Nerf is a growing sport, but the guns are dying!

My friend and I have gotten far past the point of "modding" a gun with rubber bands, duct tape, and copper barrels. In a few weeks we will have a working prototype of a VERY DURABLE custom made high powered rifle, better than the best modded crossbow. One working prototype we had of a different gun put a welt on my chest from 20 feet that lasted for a WEEK! My proto is less powerful, a a litte less than a LnL, but with a 10 shot removable clip.

We have a nerf game we play here. It's basically a LARP downtown, but with nerf guns and foam melee weapons. TONS of fun and a lot different from the basic war games...

Hope to hear from ya soon! We'll keep you updated on our custom guns progress!

My brothers 2k gave me a scar on my arm. It isnt going away. Thats pretty cool Kat, but alot of people have taken modding past duct tape and rubber bands, theres just less topics about them. Kat, thats a cool business. A nerf resale business! Im curious, did you start that because you wanted to sell nerf guns, or because you became aware of the NIC?

THIRST

Meh, resale is okay, but we've gotten past cleaning up and fixing old guns. There's only so much you can do with crappy guns. 70% of Nerfguns really aren't that good, even when you clear out anything restricting airflow, or put a new spring in, or replace the o-rings and seals... We've done it for about 2 years now and it's time to move on to manufacturing our own out of metal components and high grade resin.

The reason we started doing this was because of the growing demand at Universites in the state for nerf. As some of you know, airsoft and paintball guns are outlawed on University campuses. Also, it's illegal to use them within city limits of some cities. High powered nerf is the perfect legal alternative to these.

In the dorms all over the country, there's a game played with Nerf called "Assassins". The rules change from school to school, but the core of it is pretty much the same. Everyone playing writes their name on a piece of paper. All the names go into a big box and get mixed up. Each player is then given a name, the name of the person they are supposed to assassinate. When you kill that player, you get the name they have, and any names they have from their kills. The one with all the names at the end wins.

When I was living in the dorms in 99, you could still go to any Wal Mart or Kay Bee and pick up some pretty decent guns for it cheap. A couple years ago when my friend started playing, and also playing the LARP variant, guns were starting to get much harder to find. So we did what we could to be the "arms dealers" for a couple schools, buying, repairing, modding, and basically studying the mechanics of every gun we came in contact with.

Between the two of us, we've seen enough guns to understand the mechanics and design of just about every gun, and determine how easy it would be to replicate the internals. My friend is an ex-mechanical engineering major, and during those years worked extensively on nerf guns. I studied prototyping and design and now work with with various grades of plastics, resins, silicones, and urethanes. These guns are going to work good, look good, feel good, and hopefully be able to withstand some heavy usage. Ergonomically, we're still working on designing a shell for the internals of the rifle, but the first thing I'm putting our high powered handgun in is a Namco Guncon shell. I love that thing. After that, heh, anyone seen Gungrave?

And as for blueprints, there's really not much to the rifle. Only 5 moving parts, I believe. Mine is more complicated, but since I can fabricate my own parts out of industrial grade resin, I can improve on exisiting designs and make an awesome gun out of one of Nerf's Failed Attempts.

Oh, and we will also be making more clips for people who play with Powerclips. I'm sure some of you have already modded your Powerclips to have removable clips. We're making more, so you can carry 3 or 4 on you and slap a fresh one in.

Whoops! I forgot to tell you about the Weltmaker!

Basically, it started out as a Lightnin Blitz. My friend routed all of the airflow from 5 air chambers into one single breech loaded barrel. By the time he was done with it, you could barely tell what it was, since a good portion of the internals and shell were removed. Packed a punch, but wasn't very accurate after 60 feet. But we don't play long range games anyway, usually it's indoors, 10 feet max, or outside around 20 feet. It's all about dodging, covering, and getting in close for the kill.

I don't know how many of you play in tactical squads, but just think of the fun you can have with a couple loser rifles, high powered sidearm, and a sub machine gun sized 10 shot gun with removable clip where all you have to do is pull the plunger back and fire! Clearing rooms and sweeping floors will never be the same!

I'm really interested in that 10-shot clip! Also, for the lightning blitz, I did the same thing as well- getting really really nice ranges, although it requires quite a few pumps... Anyways, I'm probably somewhat incomprehensible, and will be for the next few posts or days possibly.. (still drooling over that armor)

~ompa

What armour? www.nightmarearmour.com ?

Yeah; just too bad the cost is so high..

~ompa

Heeheehee. You guys want cheaper Halo2 armour, huh? I'll have to seriously consider it after my Jin Roh armour project.

Here's my website, btw:
http://webpages.charter.net/katachi/
business is just starting, but I have the projected projects for the next 6 months there.

Did they use foam to make that halo armour or wood? It looks wierd, i might try to make some but for now ill put it only my list of things to do #87, hehe

I believe the final pieces are fiberglas or resin. There's a whole prop and amour making process invloved in it, probaly starting with clay and styro prototypes. Personally, I don't like it. It's like putting a $6,000 dollar paintjob on a $200 dollar car. You can see in a lot of pics where he didn't sand the armour pieces enough, and he should have cleaned them up more and made better molds. Should have had a resin prototype, refined it, made new molds, refined that resin proto, and kept doing that until he got perfect molds.

Heh... wow... I looked, and, well, very nice. I look forwards to the completed site, as well as that 10-shot clip gun. Keep me posted on what's going on.

~ompa

It's gonna be sweet, but dont' expect it to be a miracle of engineering. Just an improvement over an existing gun, mostly Electric Eel mechanism concepts. Like I said, I'm not the engineer, I specialise in replication, parts fabrication, and design. But I know that once we get the optimal numbers for amount of force, length of barrel, and size of air chamber, fabricate better gaskets and o-rings, it's gonna be VERY fun. I'm more concerned about rate of fire, accuracy, and ergonomics, than distance or maximum power. Just pull back on the plunger and fire, like a pump action shotgun with a clip Great for laying down controlled suppressive fire.

Can you estimate the cost of each gun?

Not yet. But our goal is to be able to provide them at prices that the average wargamer can afford. Not like 100 bucks for a crossbow >_< However we will probably have different versions of guns if someone wants to pay 100 for a better one. But basically, we're just trying to keep the sport alive and make guns more available than just on Ebay or garage sales, where you don't know what your getting.

Hey Katachi,

You do understand my skepticism when you promise to deliver on a limited production-able functional Nerf blaster substitute that will be somewhat affordable to the above-average Joe.

But yours is about the closest to reality that I've seen, and the fact that you're not limiting your line of expertise to just Nerf blasters shows that you're not only serious, you're an entrepreneur! (Japanese rock lanterns and robot fish...wow.)

Good luck with the projects, if it goes well, you'll have a lot of happy puppies who will be at your door.

-Piney-

Of course, I wouldn't believe it till I saw it either. The problem though, is that everyone wants to make a semi auto or full auto and spends months and months designing air chambers and can show you all the blueprints they can make, but I've never seen anyone actually make one. When we were working on making our own guns, people kept saying "make full auto! make full auto!" But the more complicated it gets, the less a chance it has of actually working.

Here's what you can do: open up your Lock n Load or Sharpshooter or crossbow. Count the number of pieces required to fire a dart. There's not much too it. We've already improved on what Nerf has given us for a gun, they've deliberately dumbed the guns down because they were intended for kids... Now it's just a matter of increasing size/capacity of parts, getting a better seal, picking better rubbers and resins and fabricating it all over from scratch.

I'm not saying they're gonna be $14.99 cheap like the new Tech Target, which btw is a really solid gun, right up there with the LnL. ROUGHLY, meaning we could afford to make them for at the LEAST, high powered single shot rifle: under 50, handgun: 30ish, repeater w/10 shot clip: 40ish. We're trying to make guns better than the 100 dollar ones, and make them available for people who are SERIOUS about foam wargames. If you're gonna be a causal gamer, pick up a tech target or night sight. This is about keeping the gaming alive and leveling the playnig field so the guy with the most money doesn't always win.

I like hearing that.

Interesting...You guys definetly would have customers. I'm surprised there is actually people out there serious enough about Nerf to build and sell their own versions of guns we love. I mean that in a good way, even though it may not sound it. I was once like that for Airsoft. I designed and built a single 12-gauge gas shotgun round, that would allow any real-steel shotgun to be an Airsoft shotgun. It kinda worked, but not as I expected. I may be able to mod it to go for Nerf, but then it would probably be in 20-gauge or .50, or .410 if I tried. Now I just design crap that my friends make for me, usually because they can test it because they have the equipment to.

I just recently started to focus on airguns. That's how I got back into Nerf after a half-year's break. I was challenged to make a .50 pellet rifle. I gave the person the design and said here ya go, but you have to build it yourself, just sign the waiver and it's your's.

There's my (crappy) story. It's nice to see there are no procrastinaters in the Nerf homemade building division.

one of the biggest reasons we got into it was because it's a legal alternative to piantball and airsoft on University campuses. Big demand, big market. Plus, kids under 18 can buy them. I'd be more into modding paintball guns if it wasn't so expensive.

Isn't this just a bit excessive? I mean... come on, $50 for an Electric Eel? Would anyone pay that? Maybe it's just me, but is it really worth that much?

~ompa

$60 after shipping. And he doesn't even have a pic of it. For all we know the thing could be pretty beat. Still, I'd be interested to see if it actually sells...

I am working on a Intergration for the Powerclip and the SM750. A varyation (sp?) of Webbzter's mod on NE. I also have some qestions about the Powerclip itself. Here they are:

1) Should I plug the release valve on my Powerclip?

2) Has someone ever replaced their airtank on a Powerclip?

3) What are some things to do to the existing airtank?

4) Where is a good place to get more Powerclip clips?

Please answer these qestions in detail and with links. (Prefered)

~Halfling~

I'll be making more clips this summer. Gotta love that Powerclip. Fits in an attache case real nice.

Shoot. Missed it. How did it go? We're in madison and platteville, btw

You think those airsofts look good, check out these conversion kits:

http://www.poseidon.co.jp

Anyone know who this "nerfhunter" guy on ebay is?? He's been buying up a lot of nerf lately.... Quite a bit of money to be spending on guns.

Yeah that was kinda ummmmm........ lame. I mean, you don't see us showing up at that guy's night job and slappin the dick out of his mouth. Who goes through the trouble of making an account on a nerf forum to post how they hate nerf?

Now what's readily available for 16 year olds for guns? What can you shoot at people with in city limits, maybe the mall, or in front of police stations? Foam weapons aren't so bad.

Dear NerfHaven.com web master. My son showed me this e-mail and I deeply appologize for his behavior. I assure you that nothing like this will ever happen again. We have grounded him from the internet.

[..snip..]

Who's next?

So wait.... DAD??? he's probably younger than us AND is trying to act all macho about nerf being for "kids"??? Shoot, I thought maybe it was someone who at least knew what they were talking about... like oh, I don't know, someone who's bought a weapon from somewhere else than Toys' R Us.... Kids today....

As long as parent's don ban nerf guns like they did with all my Entertech and old Larami guns.... nerf won't die.

Yeah... wasn't he the one who actually bid the $50 for the electric eel? Either this guy is very very stupid, or he wants every nerf gun ever made. If he does, he has issues.

~ompa

yeah, but check out his buying history on ebay. he really is tryign to buy up every one. I know my friend Shinkrillin had the guy win one of his nerf auctions, he never paid, and he's bidding on more...

Never fear, I sent twenty hitmen to his house last night.

Okay..but that needs to be done. Gah.

And I sent an email to the seller, warning him of this guy's non paying ways. Apparently nerfhunter's bidding on every gun he can find...

Wow. Very nice looking guns. I hope they're remakes of GOOD guns, if they are just putting new shells on old internals. Personally, I didn't think the DX5000 was that good, maybe this new one is an improved remake of it? Tech Target and Night sight are great guns. I would really hate to see the engineers at Nerf put a ton of restricters, small air chambers, and bent hoses in the guns to make them "safe".... I'd scrap half my nerf projects if these were any good. If they are as good as the DX, Xbow, and LnL, promote the awesome job the new designers are doing!! Pimp these guns to everyone you know! New Xbow and LnL!

But the good news is, if these guns ARE awesome and cheap, and more people start nerfing, I will have more time to make better stuff for nerf wars, such as mission items and bombs to defuse and stuff.

Hey, anyone play nerf wars like that? I saw some lasertag groups that did. They would have "terrorists" and "paramilitary". The terrorists had an electronic "bomb" or super weapon prop, with a timer and some wires to cut to deactivate it. The paramilitary group started somewhere and set up a timed prop that would activate a strobe light or rotating light and play a clip of a black hawk landing. They'd set the thing to X number of minutes and when the timer ran out, the "dropship" would be there to pick them up. Cool idea for wars. They had some other kewl stuff too. Think I'll start a topic on props/devices used in nerf wars....

Hey all, I didn't see any other posts about this so I thought I'd start a new one...

Anyone use NON nerf stuff for their wars? I saw some laser tag clubs a while ago that had a cute little prop they had made to look like a soviet warhead, it had a panel to unscrew and wires to cut to deactivate. There was also one of those old WOW transponder/locators in it. FUN! So one team got the warhead and got to hide it. The other team got the locator, and a device with a light and audio player. They would set the timer and went it reached 0, the thing would flash the lights and play the sound of a Black Hawk landing, idling for a couple minutes and then taking off. So basically, you had to go deactivate the warhead and meet back at the "dropship" in the time it was there. Variants were things like: one guy on the warhead team has a card that says which wire to cut, multiple charges/warheads placed, dropship lands in a different location for pick up than for drop off...

Anyone else got any ideas or ref pics of stuff they think would be fun to play with? I'd love to build some fun stuff for games other than deathmatch and capture the flag.

You're forcing me to make impact grenades, you know that, right?

Woah, baby steps. That's pretty advanced. Screw impact grenades for now. There's too much engineering involved, why not spend the time and energy on better stuff? Unless you REALLY want to put a firecracker in a box of foam


Shields are easier than you think if you have a Dremel:

Go to the hardware store

Find yourself a round rubbermaid/plastic exterior garbage can, whatever color, but I like the navy blue ones...

Get a cabinet handle, some screws and bolts

Cut maybe 1/3 of the garbage can out, cut a rectangle out to see. Paint SWAT on it, put the handle on and you've got a solid, durable tactical shield

Clear riot shields are fun too, just take a 1/4 inch sheet of plexi, set up a jig for bending it, and hit the area that needs to be bent with propane torch. Don't know how easy this would be, might take some practice, but I know a guy who bends 1/8 thick this way and makes plexiglas boxes...

Unless you really are looking for a way to get foam around shields. I have a better idea than impact grenades:

We play in Madison with sound and light emitting electronics. If you're in the room and light weapon goes off, you're dead. If you're in the room and sound fx weapon goes off, you're dead. A couple weapons were things like this little LED blinky thing, forget what it was for but probably auto, where an impact would cause the lights to blink. We would make them more sensitive and chuck em like grenades into rooms.

But the best toy I can think of for nerf mines, is cordless doorbells.
The transmitter is just 2AA batteries, a button and the rf circuit. The reciever is like 4 C batteries, which I could probaby knock down to AA, the rf recieving circuit, the audio circuit and a speaker. We used to pick them up at goodwill for a buck.

So what you do is, you plant the reciever somewhere in the room or area ahead of time and when people get near, you hit the button, the doorbell would sound and the guy was dead.

Now the speaker doesn't necessarily have to be a speaker. I would replace it with a solenoid or relay. This way, you could remote fire guns, trigger events, set off fireworks, detonate foam mines, etc. The best part is, the doorbell parts are cheap, redily available and have switches to change the freq so you're not setting off every one used in the game with one transmitter.

The hornet because you get the most shots with out reloading.

So how many people are picking guns based on how they look? Ironman's definatley proving a point here. What's the primary reason we're looking forward to these guns? Better mechanics? Functionality? The pretty colors? If it turns out they shoot about as good as a 2 dollar Wal Mart rubber suction cup dart gun and you bought it for looks and ergonomics, maybe you can use the shells for better internals or something... Ah well, I still need to design a shell for my guns.

To much thought into something like that... Sheilds are a pain because you cant get the person holding it. I hate that.

yeah but some things are worth the extra work. Like oh, I don't know, maybe a remote firing or motion detecting Wildfire? Just set it and forget it! Or hey, why stop at one? Why not set up 5 or 6 of em?

One other thought I had was to modify the targets that come with the Tech Target guns to do cooler stuff when you shot them. Acutally finding a use for those things would be nice, since I have like 4 of em here. Then instead of "Capture the Flag", you can have "Shoot the Hell out of the Enemy Generator/Supercomputer"

Which one is it modded?

Yes.

I paintball and modify nerf guns.. yet to be in a nerf war, but I still like them both alot. I say each has their place.

~ompa

I've done tactical laser tag, paintball, airsoft, and nerf. They all have their own DIFFERENT pros and cons. There is no one perfect tactical sport yet, although considering how much $$$ I've dropped a week on paintball and how much I HATE mosquitoes, paintball comes pretty close. Also Laser tag with weapons that have different ammo/rof/range, and recievers with hit points makes for some hella fun, clean, safe games.

The PC clips will be made out of a durable, high grade resin. Not solid, of course, that would probably be too heavy for the pc to advance...

As for replacement air tanks, we found some wierd "water worm" type things at Wal Mart a while ago. It's one of those things you hook up to the water faucet, and it fills with water, Then you can unclip the nozzle and spray people with it. The ones I found I'm pretty sure were the same size and rubber material as the powerclip air tank, but we have yet to take apart any spare PCs and test them.

What I worry about more, though, is the flimsy orange pump on these things. Has anyone ever snapped the pumping handle off? Mine's bowed a couple times and it just makes me nervous about pumping it too fast.

Also, I would replace your pump with one of those fancy dual direction bike pumps, where you're taking in air on the push and pull... Same amount of pumping as a normal one would get you twice the air

That looks like a fun project! I'm sure there's some LARPers who'd be interested in that. I had a few ask me to make them nerf shooting crossbows, but then the Van Hellsing one came out and I said "just go buy that. it'll work for what you're doing".

That video is pretty funny. Of course, if someone could get vids of the LOTR Ringgame..... they don't even have physical combat in that, it's all dialogue based combat. I read a girl's LJ where she documented a weekend playing. *yawn* BORING. Guess it really is Nerf or Nothing

Which one is it modded?

Yes.

Yes??

FOUR PEOPLE give you decent replies to your question and you quote ME??? Goofball.

Maybe you wanted a reply from someone who speaks your language :

Yea i thnk the supermax 1500 is the furthest shooting does anyone else want to comment its cool.

Heh. Sorry. Okay, back on topic....

Do modded supersoakers even count? I could mod one of those garage type air compressors to fire a dart like a mile into the air, but I wouldn't call it a nerf mod. I'd call it a Seagull Spanker.

I THOUGHT that fucking gun looked familiar. Yeah that's another one of my boys, Colin. He's usually to lazy to sell his own stuff so he gets us to do it. But he got upset and threw a tantrum because he gave Shinkrillin a Powerclip to sell an it only went for 20 bucks so we're making him sell his own stuff now... You'll also notice that there are ZERO BIDS. Shinkrillin did all the work on that LnL, and I can say as far as a custom LnL, you're not going to find a better one Ebay.

Now that the Tech Target is out, LnLs arent' in such high demand... When we were selling last fall, it used to be you either bought a SS or SS2 and modded it, or paid double and got a LnL

Thats my basic design i devised.

I was going to post earlier but photobucket was blocked at school . . .

Some of you may remember the design of this, i devised it earlier in the year. Generally, two film canisters, pressed together against a divider or cap, by a strong rubber band [or elastic, whatever you want to call it] or two. The sheer force of the bands holding the canisters together against each other, which can be easily disturbed by a knock or hit, creates enough force for the contents to be flung out at a very fast rate, but you'll have to experiment about power levels and positioning.

The contents can either be just little, inanimate foam pieces, or pieces compacting a heavy spring so that the moment they see an opening, they'll fly like all hell.

As i said, it's up to you to experiment with positioning and power levels for this grenade design.

Hope i helped.

Two things wrong with this:

1) it's only going to spew foam in one direction. What if you toss it and it spins around in the air and the "barrel" is pointed back at you?

2)same as the first I guess.... what if the "barrel" is facing the ground or another object.

If you could plant these as mines, they might work, but you have something that shoots nerf in a 15 degree wide field, when we're hoping for at least a 180 degree spray.

On another note: Talio, do we know the actual dimensions of the guns? It's kinda hard to judge the actual size of these weapons, unless there was a nitefinder or something in the pictures. I am just worried that the scout might be even smaller than the nitefinder.

My reasoning was this: When all those guns are connected together, Hasbro still wants a 7-yr-old to be able to shoot it. That would be pretty hard if the guns were as big as they appear in the pics. Maybe I am wrong, and the Titan will be a massive gun, but Hasbro seems to cater more to the younger players.

Also, the "foot pump" on the Titan might be marketed as such just because little 7-yr-olds would have to use their feet to pump it. As long as the pump isn't that long, I don't think I would have trouble just holding the stock in one hand and pumping it. But then again, the longer the pump is, the less times you have to pump it, the higher the ROF.

~Vintage

Here's why I'm not too worried:
http://www.realistic..._30in_m16_3.jpg
10 year old with a 30 inch toy gun. It's been done before, maybe the nerf engineers will figure out that 10 year olds can handle bigger guns.

Best nerf gun ever? Ever heard of an SS2? There is also the nite finder and tech target.

I have owned and tested several of them. Have you ever tried a well modded LnL? SS2 is okay but nothing compares to a good LnL. Try one sometime.

Wait. When everyone says "SS2", is that Secret Shot II, or Sharp Shooter II? I've had a couple of both, and they're both decent guns when they're cleaned up and modded properly.

Yes, it's a first shot.

No, it's not all that great.

If you don't have a decent spring pistol it's not too bad though. I consider the NF, LnL, TTG, and SSII to be superior.

Yeah seriously. By the time you pay shipping, you're looking at close to 10 dollars. And that's assuming that it doesn't sell for 10 or more if someone else bids. Toys R Us has plenty of good guns in stock now for that kind of money.

www.photobucket.com, it's common sense.

Nice job Grinch, I wouldn't say arctic camo but definitely awesome.

yeah, not arctic camo, but still I nice looking gun. Especially the drybrush weathering. Nice touch. Anyone else painting guns? I have a ton of paints left over from a commission I finished up this weekend, so I'll probably paint up a Tech Target.

Great place to find guns.

Lock n Loads: 50 cents.... TWICE!

Crossbow: a buck

Hmmm.. those were the best. Usually I go to the Goodwills in the city and have gotten 4 or 5 powerclips for under 4 dollars, Lock n Load for a couple bucks, tons of super maxx guns for a couple bucks... Secret Shots for a couple bucks... Goodwill is awesome. Except it's pretty dry now. That's why we're switching to making them. So we don't have to rely on the supply so much.

At first I though this topic was going to be some retard asking how to make a homemade flamethrower. I didn't even think it was possible. O_o
That is amazing. I'd try it, but in the area I'm living it, if it touched anything it'd set off a 50,000 acre wildfire.

So do it indoors then.

Ah-Buh-Bup! *bump*

Sorry for the bump. Frankly, I couldn't stand to see my creation go to waste so I wanted to bring it back to the top.

Update: I have primed the shell (2nd coat in 45 minutes), and painted the silencer black. I've also gooped 1/8" of FBR on the inside of the plunger tube, inside the cap piece. Hopefully it will silence it a bit.

Still hoping for input/opinion on this mod and paintjob.

PS. Like my signature? I found that while reading DBF. Damn, thats good. Props to Cxwq for that. Hilarious.

Yeah here's some input:

Get rid of the damn electrical tape.
Clean up those rough edges.
Fill in those holes with some putty.
Put a barrel on it.

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EDIT:

Hey, it's four simple things you could do to keep it from looking like such a hack job. But it did occur to me after you PMed me that you might actually in fact BE 10 or 12 years old and not so experienced in working with the tools/materials needed, in which case, I apoligize and great job! That's a good start! Here's how you can make it look better :

SANDPAPER! GET SOME!
Start with about a 130 grit and get those nasty chunks off! Take about 4 different sheets between 130 and 220 and clean those edges up.

TAPE ON THE OUTSIDE OF A GUN IS FOR 9 YEAR OLDS!
If you REALLY want to attach that mag light tip to the gun, there's plenty of other things to use. First off, you probably just unscrewed it from the mag light. Try finding another threaded piece, or cut the first 3/4 inch off the rest of the mag light and permanently attach that. This way, you can still unscrew the light and lens. Other alternatives include Gorilla Glue, hot glue, or bondo. Just gob that stuff in the hole and when it's dry, sand it!

YOUR WIRES ARE SHOWING!
Those holes are just downright nasty looking! Fill em in! All you need is some bondo. I use the stuff all the time on my resin work, it's amazing. It's like clay you can sand. Just gob some in the hole, let it dry, and sand it smooth. Then you can paint it and NO ONE WILL KNOW THERE WAS A HOLE THERE! If you still want to have gun halves instead of sealing it up with one big ol gob of Bondo here's what you can do:
Take the two gun shell halves. Put masking tape sticky side down over the gun shell where the holes are. Do this on both halves so that when you put them together, you have a masking tape seam running down the crack between the two halves. Now you can fill in both halves, and there will still be a division between them in case you need to take the gun apart again.

WHERE'S THE DART GOING TO GO??
I know you're already working on a barrel, and I can't wait to see it! Great idea, making the rifled barrels and "silencer" style barrels on the guns. Defnately adds a personal touch.

Okay, so I picked one of these up at Toys R Us today to mess with, since I got my shipment of 10000 millicandela white LEDs last week and like finding stuff to put them in. It's bright. VERY bright. If you don't know how bright LEDs get, take a look at those pedestrian crossing lights at interesections or some of the tail lights on semis. Police cars use them too, and one police chief I talked to said you can see them from over a mile away! Of course, their light bars have lenses to make the brigter. But the Night Site does too!

I took the LED circuit board out of the NS. The LED itself isn't too bad, and if you can't get a hold of ultra brights, take those resistors out. All they're really there for is to take some of the voltage and heat off of the LED, which makes it dimmer. Some people say you need at least a 300 ohm resistor with LEDs or they burn out, but I've never had it happen. The current's the same since they're in series with the LED so it's not like there's going to be to much of a current draw since it would be the same with or without the resistors. Most LEDs max out and go into saturation at 3.4v or higher, so if you're only using two AA or AAA (1.5v each), you're only getting 3v so you still don't need to worry about keeping a resistor...

So now you can just desolder or cut that board off and solder the LED on. Just remember which lead's positive or you will have to put the batteries in backwards!

Now you'll notice that the original red LED had a black housing on it that kept it in place.

Way in the back also. This made it so that a concentrated beam of light hit the lens and stayed small, as opposed to putting it right up close and shining a cone of light on it, which gives you more light. I cut a bic pen to the length of that light tube and put the LED at the front. Then I jammed the pen and LED in the tube and pushed it up so that the LED was like 1/4 inch away from the lens. This way, it puts out a nice wide beam.

So ummm.... that's basically it. Reassemble it like it used to be and now you have a bright flashlight instead of a wimpy red dot! I'll have pics as soon as the bondo on my gun dries!