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[ice]

From what I understand, the majority of the NIC hate longshots. For those of us who don't, here is a fun mod for one.

Personally, I love longshots. When angel breeched, they get great range, are reliable, and are very accurate with stefans. However, you can no longer use them to fire stock darts, or use the new drum mags, 18 cap mags, or standard mags like other clipped blasters, which is disappointing. I know there has been a thread or two on making a breech that can accept streamlines, but I can't find it, and I remember it not having measurements. I experimented a bit, and took the ideas of Angel, heretecorp and SGnerf's breeches into the creation of this one. Obviously, I claim no credit for the design of the breech, I just tweaked it, and wish to share my findings. With this breech, you can use the standard modded clips and shoot desired length stefan darts, or use normal clips and drums to shoot stock darts or cddt's


Materials:
19/32 brass
9/16 brass
17/32 brass
1/2 brass
Super adhesive of choice (I used fishin glue, but epoxy will work as well as zap a gap)

Tools needed:
Dremel with metal cutting disk
Sand paper or sanding bit
Ruler
Sharpie



Start out by cutting the stock breech about half way into the back part, which is black on the new editions. Cut out the AR and sand the inside enough for it to stomach the piece of 19/32s.






Now, lets cut the 19/32 down to size.










Now that you have your piece cut, sand the lip (the part under the half brass) down just a bit, to make is smooth. Then sand the half brass with sand paper or a sanding bit, to get the filings off it. Then, push it into the base of the breech, and secure it with super glue or epoxy of choice. I used fishin glue. Make sure it's flush with the plastic bit.



So it should look like this.








Then fill the back with hotglue.






Next, cut the 17/32 and 9/16 to a half inch each. Sand the filings off, and super glue them inside the back of the 19/32s.






Now, take your bit of 1/2 brass. We need to cut this just shy of the lip of the 19/32 brass. Here's the measurement.

[ice]

Sand off the filings, and slip it into the 17/32 at the back of the breech. It should come just short of the 19/32 lip. If so, glue it in place.









Now, the back half of the breech is finished, except for attaching it to the bolt sled. Take your stock breech, and cut out a piece like this one. I left as much of the breech as I could to connect to the brass, cause more surface area means more space for glue, and more space to spread the heavy weight loads it will be pulling when priming the blaster.





Sand the inside of the plastic till it wraps snuggly over the 19/32s brass. I did this by stretching sand paper over a piece of 9/16 brass, and then moving the piece back and forth on that, to get it to the right size. The stock plunger tube won't want to accept the 19/32 brass as well as the end of the stock nub, so to solve this, I cut into the plunger a bit. Yes, this means that the o-ring in the back of the breech won't seal with the front of the plunger tube. To solve that, I simply wrapped it once in E-tape, and then lubbed it, which made for a once again perfect seal.





Slip the breech into the plunger tube, and then glue the plastic nub to the top of the brass, keeping the end of the plastic nub a finger nail away from the end of the brass.







Now, the hard parts all done. Take out the 9/16 brass, and cut a lip into it, like so,




Sand the lip to rid it of fillings, and then sand the outer part of the brass lightly, to help it slide in and out of the breech easier. Add tightening rings if desired. Glue it into the stock faux barrel and dart tooth, so the end of the lip just barely sticks out from the dart tooth.






Re-assemble your longshot, and enjoy





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See it fire!

Thank for reading

Edited by ice, 08 February 2011 - 10:48 PM.

[Zorns Lemma]

Nice writeup!

Here's mine:

[ice]

Did you make a write up on that? It looks clean as hell. Props.

Edited by ice, 08 February 2011 - 10:43 PM.

[WicketTheModder619]

Just one more reason I wish somewhere near me sold brass. Good job and nice idea. If I ever find brass I will have to do this.

[utahnerf]

Solid writeup bro. I also could not find one that accepted streamlines a few weeks ago, so this helps a lot. I would guess that ranges are similar to angel breeched longshots?

[ice]

Do it Best sells brass. They except paypal as well. Search .014x(size brass you want)x12 and you'll have the right peice.

utahnerf, on Feb 8 2011, 07:43 PM, said:

I would guess that ranges are similar to angel breeched longshots?

Exactly the same range.


Vid is up. link

Edited by ice, 08 February 2011 - 10:47 PM.

[ugh112]

Nice write-up! Very easy to follow, and the finished product turned out great!

[Forsaken angel24]

Nice work.

Glad to see the breech is able to be done to accept streamlines.
Now all the stock dart war pansies can enjoy this creation too.

[Dyxlesic]

nice writeup.
Am I the only one wondering why the longshot in the first picture has a recons grip?

[Ozymandias]

Ah, excellent.

SgNerf has this mod and this update, but your pics are a tad more useful and your measurements are in customary units (ie not metric).

Nevermind, reread your post.

So, I have 2 questons at the moment:

1) What material did you use for your shotgun grip/arms?

2) Have you had dart shredding issues with your breech?

Edited by Ozymandias, 09 February 2011 - 04:16 AM.

[Wes7143]

Wooh! Takin' a trip back to '08 modifications!

Seriously though, props. I tried to do something similar, and totally failed because of the tight margins involved. Personally, I think streamlines are the only darts that should be used with longshots still using the Nerf clips, not because it's difficult to stefan modify the clips, but because it's just better to have clip compatibility with everyone.

[ice]

Dyxlesic, on Feb 8 2011, 09:28 PM, said:

Am I the only one wondering why the longshot in the first picture has a recons grip?

Thats a shell Im working on for this to go into. The longshot grip is to small for my hands to comfortably fit around it.

Ozymandias, on Feb 9 2011, 12:07 AM, said:

1) What material did you use for your shotgun grip/arms?

2) Have you had dart shredding issues with your breech?

1/4 polycarb, and actually, no. I found that as long as the 19/32 is just a tad infront of the 1/2, there's no shreading, and because the barrel is only 9/16, the streamline slides into the tightening rings just fine and doesn't bend to create jams.

Wes7143, on Feb 9 2011, 03:11 AM, said:

not because it's difficult to stefan modify the clips, but because it's just better to have clip compatibility with everyone.

That was EXACTLY my motive with this mod.

[socal]

Would cutting into the plunger tube cause an air leak? With the o ring on it i don't think it would but do u notice anything. also In the video is any of the recon grip usable or is it all covered in polycarbonate?
Thank you for your time.

[ice]

socal, on Feb 9 2011, 01:31 PM, said:

Would cutting into the plunger tube cause an air leak? With the o ring on it i don't think it would but do u notice anything. also In the video is any of the recon grip usable or is it all covered in polycarbonate?
Thank you for your time.

No, it doesn't actually reduce the air seal, it seals 100% same as always. I wrapped the end of the breech, meaning the black stock piece, in e-tape just one time around, and it seals perfectly.

It's covered in polycarb. That's the way I choose to make it. The recon shell is simply there to have nice, straight guide rails for the front bolt of the foregrip to slide though, and also cause I think it looks cool. It will eventually have a flashlight housed in it, as well as a laser pointer (as soon as I get one).

[socal]

ice, on Feb 9 2011, 01:39 PM, said:

socal, on Feb 9 2011, 01:31 PM, said:

Would cutting into the plunger tube cause an air leak? With the o ring on it i don't think it would but do u notice anything. also In the video is any of the recon grip usable or is it all covered in polycarbonate?
Thank you for your time.

No, it doesn't actually reduce the air seal, it seals 100% same as always. I wrapped the end of the breech, meaning the black stock piece, in e-tape just one time around, and it seals perfectly.

It's covered in polycarb. That's the way I choose to make it. The recon shell is simply there to have nice, straight guide rails for the front bolt of the foregrip to slide though, and also cause I think it looks cool. It will eventually have a flashlight housed in it, as well as a laser pointer (as soon as I get one).

Thanks. Very cool that you got it to work without a flaw and im glad there is someone still modding longshots. I have to say i really like lots of your mods and will be cool to see whatever else you make.

[knexpert66]

Once again, you just made my life 5 times easier. THANKS!

[Green Wing]

Very nice mod and writeup! How well do the Streamlines shoot with this breech compared to a stock breech?

Edited by Green Wing, 29 May 2011 - 02:26 PM.

[Split]

I'm still skeptical about your involvement with nerf. It's a solid writeup though. I'd like to see it done on the other clipped blasters, especially the stampede and raider.

[ice]

Split, on Feb 9 2011, 07:57 PM, said:

I'm still skeptical about your involvement with nerf.

Excuse me? I make like 2 nerf vids a week on youtubeland. I've probably done more mods then you.

[Draconis]

ice, on Feb 10 2011, 05:51 PM, said:

Split, on Feb 9 2011, 07:57 PM, said:

I'm still skeptical about your involvement with nerf.

Excuse me? I make like 2 nerf vids a week on youtubeland. I've probably done more mods then you.

Yeah, but you never show up to my wars anymore. How do you think that makes me feel?

[ice]

Draconis, on Feb 10 2011, 06:05 PM, said:

Yeah, but you never show up to my wars anymore. How do you think that makes me feel?

Haha. I transferred schools last year, and got a job, so I only got to go to Apoc in '10, which was depressing. But, I made it up to Massacre last month, and hope to start attending wars again, now that I have a sick longshot in my arms once again ;p

[Necrose]

The piece you're holding in the first picture, the front part of it snapped at the seam where you'd put the oring, and you pretty much just gave me the way to fix it Thanks.

Edited by Necrose, 11 February 2011 - 11:44 AM.

[BritNerfMogul]

Hate to break it to you big guy, but SGnerf beat you to it a while ago:

http://modworks.blog...-mod-guide.html

And I gotta say, I think his is better.

But hey, well done for trying!

[taerKitty]

ice, on Feb 8 2011, 07:26 PM, said:

I experimented a bit, and took the ideas of Angel, heretecorp and SGnerf's breeches into the creation of this one.

He knows.