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#1 Coffeepillow

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 12:53 AM

Ok, so the first Singled hornet mod on this forum was either a sad attempt at using all six tanks for one shot or was just to make the gun relatively useless, which was successful.

This mod makes the Hornet so powerful that you may need a new pair or pants after you read this post. But first, a cartooned warning and the possible use of such a weapon,

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You have been warned. And now, the final product:

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What you will need.

-1/2" and 1/4" clear vinyl tubing (make sure the little one fits snugly into the big one)
-1/4" CPVC and 1/2" PVC
-1/2" PVC cap

-Glue
-Wire cutter or scissors
-3/4" drill bit

Remove the ARs from the Hornet.

Lets start with the tubing. Stick the larger tubing into the hornet barrels and cut them off so that about a half an inch sticks out the ends. Then cut some of the smaller tubing so that it can go from the barrel to the top of the hornet with some slack. The bottom ones should be longer than the tops. Put some glue into the large tubes and slide the little ones in. You may want to go all the way down so that the inside of the bigger tube is filled completely with the little ones for a better seal (in retrospect).

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Next, grab a shell and cut the back end off. Then pull all of the ARs out.

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Then grab your 1/2" PVC and drill 6 holes on one end and cap the end (and glue the cap on for good measure).

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We are cutting out a breech like I did in my Singled Doubleshot mod.

Mark a space for your shell and cut the breech just a 1/4" or so ahead of it. Make sure that when you cut the breech, the holes that you drilled are horizontal, not vertical. Like so:

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Then you need to go to the Hornet itself. Tear the top part off (or unscrew it if you want to) where you prime the gun before you pump it and cut the top hump off the hornet.

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Then glue your barrel on any way you can. I used copious amounts of hot glue and some super glue on a few parts.

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It's actually a lot more stable than it looks.

From here you just need to put the tubes into the barrels and connect them to the holes in the PVC barrel.

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From above:

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Saw down your PVC and put a CPVC barrel in and you are done!

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I have not been able to get an accurate range yet as it is almost 1AM, but I fired it once inside and the dart cleared 60', hit the wall and bounced back to just 10' in front of me. I would conservatively guess right now and say it will shoot a black whistling dart at least 200' if not more. I will try it tomorrow and let you know.

This is clearly a very long range weapon, as close range with this would be painful and it takes minute to fully pump (though if you figured a way to do an air compressor mod on it, you would be an unstoppable machine).

Just make sure you keep it away from my cat...

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Edited by Coffeepillow, 26 April 2010 - 12:54 AM.

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 01:14 AM

I have not been able to get an accurate range yet as it is almost 1AM, but I fired it once inside and the dart cleared 60', hit the wall and bounced back to just 10' in front of me. I would conservatively guess right now and say it will shoot a black whistling dart at least 200' if not more.


I would conservatively guess that ranges are around 60'. Dart rebound is about as accurate at gauging range as repeatedly laying your penis on the ground.

That being said, that this even worked is fairly impressive. Generally when multiple valves like this all exhaust to the same place, lag in their opening time causes them to interfere with each other. You should try wider ID tubing so you don't impose so much air restriction though.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 02:12 AM

1/4" ID tubing might be enough, but who cares?

You just turned a Hornet into a Titan.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 02:27 AM

1/4" ID tubing might be enough, but who cares?

You just turned a Hornet into a Titan.


and? nobody uses hornets anyways.

If anything, this mod is pretty damn original. No guesstimate ranges please though

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 07:22 AM

Very interesting, and original. Nice work, it's cool to see new mods for blasters that have been around for a while.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 03:24 PM

I can't say I've never thought of this myself (as well as others I'm sure), but I will say that I'm a sucker for visual appeal, and that looks surprisingly awesome. The barrel is noticeably angled downward, but still.

Get us some measured ranges. :)

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 03:54 PM

If you plugged this into the bottom of the titan, you would essentially have a 2 shot titan. With the ridiculous range though, it might be more beneficial to put three barrels into one and the other three into another and make a hornet-split shot.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 04:42 PM

Holy crap! Did you all ready plug the OPRV? If not, then imagine what would happen if you did.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 04:50 PM

I have not been able to get an accurate range yet as it is almost 1AM, but I fired it once inside and the dart cleared 60', hit the wall and bounced back to just 10' in front of me. I would conservatively guess right now and say it will shoot a black whistling dart at least 200' if not more.


I would conservatively guess that ranges are around 60'. Dart rebound is about as accurate at gauging range as repeatedly laying your penis on the ground.

That being said, that this even worked is fairly impressive. Generally when multiple valves like this all exhaust to the same place, lag in their opening time causes them to interfere with each other. You should try wider ID tubing so you don't impose so much air restriction though.

He said it landed about 10' in front of him, not the wall. If you still meant in front of the wall then there is no possible way of only getting 60' ranges. Even though dart rebound is a horrible way of gauging ranges. Anyways nice mod.

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 04:50 PM

Great job, and write up. It looks very clean too.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 05:06 PM

Not bad! makes me want to try to salvage my hornet!

So i take it that this is fired from the blast button correct? it might be worth attempting to rewire one of the blast buttons to the trigger since the blast buttons on the side are a tad unwieldy.

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 09:40 PM

Nice mod dude. Now what I really need to do is adapt this to a Big Salvo; That's a scary thought.
About your guessed ranges... if you guessed at 1AM, you're probably just tired. If you were shooting a whistler dart, you'd maybe get anywhere from 80 to 120 feet. But again, dart rebound is no way to determine range. Whistlers bounce a lot. Like, they bounce 10 feet back off the wall when shot out of a lightly modified TTG, which gets around 45 feet on the low end.
Nevertheless, a really creative idea. I guess that 2(+) heads aren't better than one.

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 10:06 PM

Cool mod, but I strongly suggest using something over the hot glue on the barrel. You said it is stable, but for long term, try epoxy or JB.
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 10:51 PM

This is creative but I would love to see ranges with stefens. Use a 200 or 100 foot tape measure please. video?
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:39 PM

Ok, so I measured it today and I only got about 100'. It was a little windy- Minnesota, am I right?- so I will try it again, but first I want to tinker with it again because I think it should get a lot more out of it. Also, I need to buy my neighbors dremel so I can dremel my barrel some more and get a better seal since there is a lot of air still leaking out of it. I'll post back with my results.

As far as the overpressure goes, I don't know how it works exactly and there aren't any really great writeups about the OPRV, so if anyone can inform me then please do...

So I am a broke college grad with a crappy job and bills to pay, so I don't have money to pay for a longer tape measure or to fix my video camera, so you will have to deal with my honorable word. The only thing I bought for this mod was the larger tubing, the rest was leftovers. Also, I found this hornet at the Salvation Army store a year ago, so I have never had a titan or the other one that goes with it.

Not sure how I would go about moving the blast button to the trigger or switching it to 3 barrels per shot. I encourage y'all to try it though.

As for the rest of you, quit being such negative nellies...
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Posted 26 April 2010 - 11:45 PM

This is creative but I would love to see ranges with stefens. Use a 200 or 100 foot tape measure please. video?

Jeez. Needy much? :)
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Posted 27 April 2010 - 01:09 AM

Great mod mate.

I also like the picture you did up the top... :)


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Posted 27 April 2010 - 01:23 AM

Hey, do stuff in your own time. I know exactly the feeling of trying to do stuff on a dime in college. I'm lucky enough to have an Ace Hardware, Lowes, and Home Depot in a close radius to my dorm room, for when I do have money to mad stuff. It just comes down to funding.

Over-pressure valve: pretty simple, many nerf guns have a valve in the pump rod itself that goes off in the pressure in the pump equals or exceeds that of the tanks and tubing. All you have to do is fill it in with hot glue. Although keep the amount small, and either flush or caved in a bit. You don't want a gob of glue sticking out and potentially messing up the valve that lets air into the system.

Hard to find pictures of it done, I know. But if you take out the pump, you'll figure it out.
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Posted 27 April 2010 - 11:54 AM

Make sure your hornet doesn't have any leaks. I own 6 stock hornets and every one of them leaks air from multiple holes. Then check for air seal issues. What are you using to seal your tubing?

Although with six tanks you should be putting out a lot of air, there is a good amount of dead space introduced in this design. There's also the restriction of the tubing that could also be a limiting factor. Of course, with larger diameter tubing that would be introducing even more dead space. Its possible your barrel length might not be ideal, so it might be a good idea to experiment with different lengths. Just mentioning some things that could be effecting the range outcome.

Really the strength of this mod is the fact that you don't ever have to open up that pesky Humpty Dumpty!
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Posted 27 April 2010 - 06:51 PM

Ok, so I measured it today and I only got about 100'. It was a little windy- Minnesota, am I right?- so I will try it again, but first I want to tinker with it again because I think it should get a lot more out of it. Also, I need to buy my neighbors dremel so I can dremel my barrel some more and get a better seal since there is a lot of air still leaking out of it. I'll post back with my results.

As far as the overpressure goes, I don't know how it works exactly and there aren't any really great writeups about the OPRV, so if anyone can inform me then please do...

So I am a broke college grad with a crappy job and bills to pay, so I don't have money to pay for a longer tape measure or to fix my video camera, so you will have to deal with my honorable word. The only thing I bought for this mod was the larger tubing, the rest was leftovers. Also, I found this hornet at the Salvation Army store a year ago, so I have never had a titan or the other one that goes with it.

Not sure how I would go about moving the blast button to the trigger or switching it to 3 barrels per shot. I encourage y'all to try it though.

As for the rest of you, quit being such negative nellies...


Mait .Were you getting these ranges with the blast button or semi auto.
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Posted 27 April 2010 - 08:04 PM

Mait .Were you getting these ranges with the blast button or semi auto.


The semi-auto doesn't work any more. It uses all the tanks at once with the blast button.
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Posted 27 April 2010 - 09:10 PM

You gotta hopper this thing. Fire using one tank at a time, get crappy ranges and decent rate of fire. Fire using blast button, high power, must pump for every shot. Wanna eat shit that guy? Blast button it and hit from 150 feet. Wanna rush? Fire one at a time and shoot six shots at normal Hornet range.
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Posted 27 April 2010 - 10:36 PM

Mait .Were you getting these ranges with the blast button or semi auto.


The semi-auto doesn't work any more. It uses all the tanks at once with the blast button.


These ranges are with the blast button.

The semi auto does still work if you take the tubes out, but it is awkward to move the little orange piece back to the front. You could easily attach a rod to it to get at it a little better.

The point was to make an external attachment that you could plug in and disconnect, therefore not drastically altering the functions of the blaster.

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 10:45 PM

You gotta hopper this thing. Fire using one tank at a time, get crappy ranges and decent rate of fire. Fire using blast button, high power, must pump for every shot. Wanna eat shit that guy? Blast button it and hit from 150 feet. Wanna rush? Fire one at a time and shoot six shots at normal Hornet range.



Can you write a clearer statement please? I can't tell if you are giving positive or negative criticism...
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 12:51 AM

You gotta hopper this thing. Fire using one tank at a time, get crappy ranges and decent rate of fire. Fire using blast button, high power, must pump for every shot. Wanna eat shit that guy? Blast button it and hit from 150 feet. Wanna rush? Fire one at a time and shoot six shots at normal Hornet range.



Can you write a clearer statement please? I can't tell if you are giving positive or negative criticism...



He wants you to put a hopper clip on the "main barrel". A hopper clip works like a an RSCB except that it uses a single 45 degree PVC wye instead of a T and elbow. It has less deadspace than an RSCB, the semi-auto properties of an inline clip (don't have to tilt down to "reload"), but is much less finicky about higher-powered blasters than an inline clip (ie. won't eject all your darts). Basically it's the best of both worlds.

However, it's probably the worst for this world. Although the "blast" fire might yield decent results, hornet tanks simply don't output enough air to make up for all the deadspace in a 6-shot hopper clip, not to mention actually getting the dart out of the longass barrel you'd need to make use of the blast fire.

You could try putting a hopper clip on there, but your semi-auto would suck. Probably.


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