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[Renegade]

This mod will ad substantial weight to your gun and also eliminate any echoes or creaking sounds your guns make. The following write-up is for a crossbow, but it can be applied to any gun.

First and foremost, fuck putting foam in your gun. I fell for it when I first saw it in a write-up too, don't be discouraged. Even when you step up your game and use expanding foam and make it all nice and neat there are almost no benefits.

Step One: Get that foam out of your gun.







Step Two: Acquire some NON HARDENING modeling clay.



Step Three: Put the clay into every non essential nook and cranny of your gun. It is best to smush it down as much as you can with your thumbs in order to ensure no air pockets and that you have a solid rifle.



I find it easiest to work with when you cut the clay into sections and work a single piece into the gun at a time.




This is what my rifle looked like when finished.





I left space at the last two holes so that zip ties could be placed there due to the lack of screws near the top of a modded crossbow.

Step Four: Repeat to other shell.



And there you have it. This mod added over 2 and a half pounds of weight to my crossbow( 2 and 1/2 packages of clay). The gun feels amazing. Just a rock solid feel.

Edited by Renegade, 23 December 2009 - 11:17 PM.

[k9turrent]

I like...

[heavencloud92]

Nice job, bro. It seems like a bitch to get out, but I'll definitely try this on my LnL. It seems to me that with the solid body of the clay resting behind the plastic directly, it may reduce the likelihood of stress-fractures, maybe.

[Renegade]

Nice job, bro. It seems like a bitch to get out, but I'll definitely try this on my LnL. It seems to me that with the solid body of the clay resting behind the plastic directly, it may reduce the likelihood of stress-fractures, maybe.

The clay is very weird. It's almost not sticky at all and, though I haven't tried, shouldn't be too hard to remove if needed.

[Eh Watt]

This is great, I really like this. As a claymator, I have a lot of this stuff sitting around. I might try this (on a smaller gun).

EDIT:

I dunno man. Wait until a hot summers day. Clay melts like candle wax and smells fucking disgusting.

Modeling clay like this will get soft, but not melt. Your biggest problem I can think of is the clay maybe deforming a bit, and sticking to the moving internals too much. It doesn't really smell that bad either...

Edited by Eh_Watt?, 24 December 2009 - 12:28 AM.

[Soothsayer]

I dunno man. Wait until a hot summers day. Clay melts like candle wax and smells fucking disgusting.

[Blue]

A bit weird, but whatever works for you. I would think the clay would shift a bit during long periods of being in one position since it doesn't harden, which might screw up your internals.

[CA13]

Well, I understand your choice in clay for possible removal... but I really think there are other options.

I'd keep the foam and use those pinewood derby weights for sandwiching between layers of foam.

[Zack the Mack]

I have a feeling Sculpey would work... try doing the same thing with Sculpey, put the whole shebang in the freezer to solidify the clay, give it a few whacks to release the pieces, bake them, and glue them in.

I love the feeling of a hefty blaster. Nice idea.

[Renegade]

I dunno man. Wait until a hot summers day. Clay melts like candle wax and smells fucking disgusting.

I don't know where you live, but the clay melts at 65 degrees celsius.

A bit weird, but whatever works for you. I would think the clay would shift a bit during long periods of being in one position since it doesn't harden, which might screw up your internals.

The clay is very firm despite being 'non-hardening". And with the way the X-bow is designed, no sections of clay are near the key internal components. each clay area is sectioned off by plastic.

Well, I understand your choice in clay for possible removal... but I really think there are other options.

I'd keep the foam and use those pinewood derby weights for sandwiching between layers of foam.

Well with clay, instead of foam, the rifle is actually solid. There is no give when the gun is squeezed together, unlike with foam. However, if I was captainslug I would simply inject plastic to make the gun completely solid.

[CROW]

Or, instead of injecting plastic, do what I did and fill up spaces with hot glue. It's definitely more time consuming, but iif you want something solid and clean, its a good alternative.

[Talio]

Wow, okay...let me be the first to say this surprisingly. Why the fuck would you make your gun heavier? That's the opposite of the right thing to do.

[wingd man]

I was wondering the exact same thing actually, I think that the point is to give the gun a more solid feel, not so much to have more stuff to carry around.

[slowguitarman]

Wow, okay...let me be the first to say this surprisingly. Why the fuck would you make your gun heavier? That's the opposite of the right thing to do.

Making a gun heavier or lighter isn't about right and wrong. It's personal preference. I like a heavier feel, but I personally like there to be a reason for that feel. My Domsayer is fairly heavy, but it's because there's a lot of wood and metal on it/in it. Seems like a kinda weird idea to me, but to each his own.

[NerfMonkey]

Holy shit dude, I haven't seen you around here in months. Merry Christmas.

[Draconis]

I'd like this more if you'd added an alligator head or something. I mean, who uses modeling clay and DOESN'T add a gator?

[Renegade]

Wow, okay...let me be the first to say this surprisingly. Why the fuck would you make your gun heavier? That's the opposite of the right thing to do.

Well, in my absence from nerf I airsofted frequently(and also have been hitting the gym extremely hard). Upon going through my nerf guns I was stunned at how much the crossbow didn't weigh. And even now the gun still weighs a mere three pounds.

I prefer the gun the way it is now, and I even have two other crossbows that do not have clay in them. To me the gun just feels right. But maybe all this is just stemming from my airsoft side wanting a more "gun like" feel.

Holy shit dude, I haven't seen you around here in months. Merry Christmas.

yeah man it's good to be back. Although, I miss the old NH. I'll get on AIM sometime and we can chat.

[OnyxZenith]

Wow, okay...let me be the first to say this surprisingly. Why the fuck would you make your gun heavier? That's the opposite of the right thing to do.

You gotta think first, that THERE ARE people in the world that like their Nerf Blaster heavy It's not a bad thing, something it gives it a solid feel to the blaster like Renagade posted in his write-up. And oaming up the blaster never helps (Well for me not so much) Not only that but this can minimize the chances of rattling pieces in the minor spots

[Mod Man]

HI, a caution on using polymer clays as filler for the shell of your gun. These clays have a plasticizer ( I think acetone based) and will breakdown the plastic that they come in contact with over time. I know by means of personnel experience this is not a good idea. This plasticizer keeps the modeling clay soft and will do the same to your gun shell. Just a heads up, I've worked with modeling clays for years.......Later, Mod

[Draconis]

But maybe all this is just stemming from my airsoft side wanting a more "gun like" feel.

You should beat that side back in to submission.

[OnyxZenith]

Has anyone tried using Styrofoam? It can be shaped by packing and squeezing. Packing Peanuts?

[z80]

Has anyone tried using Styrofoam? It can be shaped by packing and squeezing. Packing Peanuts?

Um, both those materials are incredibly light? Thats kinda the point of the mod?

[Bronze Knight]

I was thinking about doing something like this with bondo and some small lead blocks. I'll let you all know how it works out when I get some bondo.

[ice]

Looks awesome. I plan on doing this to my new titan.

[eliman]

Nice .

Edited by eliman, 28 December 2009 - 05:08 PM.