Longshot Breakthough (takes Stress Of The Boltsled) (writeup's Up)
#51
Posted 23 March 2009 - 04:42 PM
Turd stefans. When I pulled these out of the pillow case i was just like, what... the... fuck...
Muker
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#52
Posted 23 March 2009 - 04:55 PM
#53
Posted 23 March 2009 - 06:54 PM
That's why I first put down a layer of plumbers goop. It's not going anywhere.Wouldn't super glue be better than hot glue? Especially in a lubricated environment like a plunger tube?
Turd stefans. When I pulled these out of the pillow case i was just like, what... the... fuck...
Muker
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#54
Posted 23 March 2009 - 07:02 PM
#55
Posted 24 March 2009 - 05:44 AM
1.) This is hardly a breakthrough, but rather a lazier, shoddier method of addressing a seldom seen problem with the longshot. (Honestly, do your bolt sleds break THAT much?) Further, it reduces performance of the angel breached LS biggest advantage, which is good ROF + decent range.
2.) You may have proliferated the cpvc'd longshot to goobers everywhere, but I highly doubt you can claim to be the pioneer. That's like someone saying they were the first person to stick a coupler on a nite finder. It's a simple mod based on a simple concept, get over yourself.
I personally do not see why anyone would do this over good ol' fashioned reinforcing. The glue on my breech might fail over time, but I will enjoy my LS's increased performance until that point.
This mod is mediocre at best.
#56
Posted 24 March 2009 - 06:51 AM
2 things:
1.) This is hardly a breakthrough, but rather a lazier, shoddier method of addressing a seldom seen problem with the longshot. (Honestly, do your bolt sleds break THAT much?) Further, it reduces performance of the angel breached LS biggest advantage, which is good ROF + decent range.
2.) You may have proliferated the cpvc'd longshot to goobers everywhere, but I highly doubt you can claim to be the pioneer. That's like someone saying they were the first person to stick a coupler on a nite finder. It's a simple mod based on a simple concept, get over yourself.
I personally do not see why anyone would do this over good ol' fashioned reinforcing. The glue on my breech might fail over time, but I will enjoy my LS's increased performance until that point.
This mod is mediocre at best.
A longshot's bolt sled won't last a single war without snapping if you put any power behind the plunger (springs). Yes, it reduces ROF, but is easy to reload while running (more then a single shot). I was the "pioneer" of the no boltsled longshot (singeled). Look it up before you insult me. I know I will have people disagree with me, but I like it, and made it for those that see the value and use of it.
Turd stefans. When I pulled these out of the pillow case i was just like, what... the... fuck...
Muker
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#57
Posted 24 March 2009 - 07:21 AM
#58
Posted 24 March 2009 - 07:40 AM
Knock on wood, I have never had an LS boltsled break. If it does break after a while, I will just replace it. Even if I have to do it at a war, it wouldn't be hard or time consuming to fix. Doing this type of mod gives better ROF than an Xbow or similar springer, but it doesn't compare to a normal LS.
Doing things like this also depend on your style of play, as does any modification. I like to rush in with guns blazing, and I do my mods accordingly.
SGM's Shred Shop -Mod Service
NerfHaven's resident drama queen.
#59
Posted 24 March 2009 - 07:56 AM
I've been meaning to post in this thread for some time now. Ice you've done nothing special. Singling the LongShot may have been unique, but not godly. This, this is just stupid. Like Split said, it's the angel breech that always fails. C'mon man, you put a fucking priming-pin on an LS. Big fucking deal. All you did was take someone's idea, and your idea, and make it better and worse. Also a LongShot's boltsled won't last one war without breaking? Understandable, if you're a fucking idiot and put it in over powerful springs. If you put in 4 springs, of course it's going to snap. You seem to do that with many guns by the way. A RFSG spring is WAY to powerfull for a crossbow, even with internals easily replaced. Knowing you, you probably put an AR-15, BBB, and LS. Also, if you're going to do this, why not make a really handle? A priming-pin is going to kill your finger by the end of a war, and i'd rather my gun break than my finger. That's what backups are for, but we have no backup fingers. What's next? Bungeeing an LS? Jesus, just calm down and get over yourself, and I say that in the nicest way possible.
Edited by Magic, 24 March 2009 - 07:57 AM.
#60
Posted 24 March 2009 - 11:01 AM
#61
Posted 24 March 2009 - 01:46 PM
I never claimed it was godly, I said I was correcting it with this mod. I only had a single spring in my longshot at my first war (BBB) and the boltsled snapped in half the war's time. You don't have to like the mod, but don't go on a crazy rampage about how you think it's retarded. What's wrong with you? PS, it's quite easy to prime with the keyring, doesn't hurt at all. Come to my next war, and you'll see. I'll pwn you with it.A longshot's bolt sled won't last a single war without snapping if you put any power behind the plunger (springs). Yes, it reduces ROF, but is easy to reload while running (more then a single shot). I was the "pioneer" of the no boltsled longshot (singeled). Look it up before you insult me. I know I will have people disagree with me, but I like it, and made it for those that see the value and use of it.
I've been meaning to post in this thread for some time now. Ice you've done nothing special. Singling the LongShot may have been unique, but not godly. This, this is just stupid. Like Split said, it's the angel breech that always fails. C'mon man, you put a fucking priming-pin on an LS. Big fucking deal. All you did was take someone's idea, and your idea, and make it better and worse. Also a LongShot's boltsled won't last one war without breaking? Understandable, if you're a fucking idiot and put it in over powerful springs. If you put in 4 springs, of course it's going to snap. You seem to do that with many guns by the way. A RFSG spring is WAY to powerfull for a crossbow, even with internals easily replaced. Knowing you, you probably put an AR-15, BBB, and LS. Also, if you're going to do this, why not make a really handle? A priming-pin is going to kill your finger by the end of a war, and i'd rather my gun break than my finger. That's what backups are for, but we have no backup fingers. What's next? Bungeeing an LS? Jesus, just calm down and get over yourself, and I say that in the nicest way possible.
Turd stefans. When I pulled these out of the pillow case i was just like, what... the... fuck...
Muker
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#62
Posted 24 March 2009 - 02:15 PM
And again, if it fails after a few wars, it fails, and you fix it. While this mod is a way to reduce stress and does so accordingly, I just don't think it's the most effective way to do so.
EDIT- By the way, I'm not back seat modding or telling you guys you're stupid for fighting, I'm just saying I have no comment on your argument.
Edited by diamondbacknf1626, 24 March 2009 - 02:16 PM.
Hey...I got a crazy idea: how about you stop all that sigging stuff? It's not even my thread and it annoys me.
#63
Posted 24 March 2009 - 04:11 PM
And yes, SGM's method of increasing the surface area for the glue to adhere on the angel breech is a MUCH better alternative to this. With a well reinforced bolt sled and SGM's method, I really don't see how a LS will fail any time soon... unless you're an idiot and put 8 different springs in it. If you want ridiculous range out of a LS, integrate a titan into it.
If you don't want criticism, don't post on the internet. Wisen up, there's a strong consensus that this mod isn't as much of a breakthrough as you think it is. The jury is still out if it's even useful.
#64
Posted 24 March 2009 - 04:13 PM
I would appreciate a mod that used mechanical fasteners (i.e. bolts, screws, the like) to make the joints, and solve the problem more efficiently, but until then, this is a potent substitute.
SGM, as much as I like you on the boards, which is uncommon for me, you have only been to one war, and it was indoor. Saying things like that, and implying that your mods and blasters have been tested thoroughly is very misleading.
Otherwise, the rest of you kids who have really never been to a war, or have no experience on your belt, get over yourselves thinking that you know what happens in the long run to blasters. Shooting a blaster around your house every so often for two weeks doesn't come close to the stresses that a primary encounters in a real situation.
In other news, don't know if you heard Ice, but my 'splat primary bit the dust at Meltdown. Apparently after so much use the spring shrunk a solid 1/16th of an inch - just enough to shoot off the plunger head after virtually every other shot. It's been revamped now, and works nicely, but was a pain at Meltdown, a day I had expected to be particularly competitive.
#65
Posted 24 March 2009 - 04:39 PM
When singling a Longshot, what is the most effective length of your barrel material to use for the barrel (Thinking that the dart fit would be tighter if anything.)
#66
Posted 24 March 2009 - 04:53 PM
Talio in Shoutbox.
#67
Posted 24 March 2009 - 06:48 PM
SGM, as much as I like you on the boards, which is uncommon for me, you have only been to one war, and it was indoor. Saying things like that, and implying that your mods and blasters have been tested thoroughly is very misleading.
I never said that they were tested thoroughly, but my longshot has been fired hundreds of times in the past week, and it shows no signs of wear. About wars, yes, it was indoor, and that's why I wanted a gun for rushing, and I will be going to Massacre 4, which I will still want a rushing gun. I don't find what I said misleading, but maybe once I attend a large outdoor war, I will change my views on ROF.
As for fixing guns, I meant that it would be easy in a war to change out the boltsled. It would be quick and easy to install a new boltsled on the field because you just need a screwdriver.
If what I said was misleading, I apologize, and maybe I will see things differently once I test the new Angel breech out in a war.
SGM's Shred Shop -Mod Service
NerfHaven's resident drama queen.
#68
Posted 24 March 2009 - 08:46 PM
Turd stefans. When I pulled these out of the pillow case i was just like, what... the... fuck...
Muker
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#69
Posted 24 March 2009 - 10:01 PM
Thanks split, and I recognize and thank those who have posted here for criticism and clarification. I actually did use SMG's method with the brass to plastic nub space. Barrel length for singeled longshot's should be about 8" or so.
I don't want to de-rail the thread too much, but with a stock, BBB, and RFSG spring, I found 10" to be the optimal barrel length with CPVC. (replaced plugerhead CS style).
Talio in Shoutbox.
#70
Posted 06 May 2009 - 11:10 PM
#71
Posted 07 May 2009 - 12:20 AM
Goodbye forever.that does work for real. i did it and it work great.
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