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Putting an end to the hell I started with singeled longshots

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#1 ice

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 06:43 PM

Here's how it works. Sorry I'm so late on the writeup.

So, take a bit of your strongest, on hand wire. It should be about 1/16 - 1/8". Cut it at around 12". Fold it in half at the middle. Slide a keyring on the end (where it was folded) and twist the wire.
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Take a hand drill or dremel and poke 2 small holes through the back end of the plunger.
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Thread the two ends of your wire through these holes.
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Hotglue these wires down. Be generous with the glue.
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Fill the top half with plunbers goop and wait overnight. Once dry, then fill what remains with a heap of hotglue.
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Drill a small whole in your stock and back half of your shell. Thread the wire though, and your done!
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Edited by ice, 23 March 2009 - 04:42 PM.

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 06:46 PM

Is it really that big a deal? I've never had a bolt sled snap on me. Of course I don't use crazy powerful springs.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 06:49 PM

It's not just the boltsled, it was more designed to help the angel breech mod, so the glue connecting the bolt sled to the brass would never come undone cause it's not being put under stress, but yes, the no boltsled pressure is a major +. Granted, it does slightly slow down ROF, but I think it's worth it.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 06:49 PM

That's a good idea. That gives me a reason to make a petg breeched longshot. [I don't like to use brass.]

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 06:50 PM

I've done that before.
I just thought everyone did, so I didn't post it.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 06:51 PM

Kinda seems like the next new fad of laziness over better craftsmanship \, like CPVC singling.

Ice this is a good modification if someone fucks up their angel breech and it will just not hold a bond, I suppose, but other than that I just recommend someone using better adhesive/work ethic. It's been nearly a year since I built my angel breech, and I regularly screw around with it and nothing has gone bad, and I live in cincinnati, some of the most fucked up weather of all time, and it's still working as well as the day I finished it.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 06:53 PM

I have to give credit where it's deserved, I though it up (but I'm sure I'm not the first) when my frist LS boltsled snapped a year or two back, but thought I couldn't do it. Mr.BadWrench reminded me of it a couple weeks back, and then I saw how ballistic Joe did a similar thing but with a piece of wood, requiring a whole new stock design. I started working on it 2 days ago, so it's not perfect/done yet, but it's close. Hey, I'm happy with it, and I hope some others will use it.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 06:54 PM

But isnt it odd and hard to prime? Even if you add a key ring.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 06:55 PM

But isnt it odd and hard to prime? Even if you add a key ring.

No, not at all. Quite easy, just takes another half second.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 06:57 PM

Well than i will definetly try because i do not want to singel another longshot because of the boltsled.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 06:58 PM

Have fun when you finally attach the key ring... It's going to whip up and smack you in the face. Yes, this isn't a bad idea, but then Hereticorp's shotgun mods eliminate the boltsled anyway.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:00 PM

Have fun when you finally attach the key ring... It's going to whip up and smack you in the face. Yes, this isn't a bad idea, but then Hereticorp's shotgun mods eliminate the boltsled anyway.

I relized that, and used one for a while, but the glue connecting to the angel breech kept disconnecting, using the best of epoxies and fishing glue. And I'm thinking of a way to avoid the keyring hitting problem... :angry:
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:00 PM

I don't think it is that revolutionary. I mean, even if it did take all the pressure off, so what? From what I have heard not that many people use longshots, let alone angel breaches. Now if you motorized it, THAT would be revolutionary and may inspire more people to use longshots. Just my two cents worth.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:02 PM

...From what I have heard not that many people use longshots....

What parallel fucking universe are you from?
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:05 PM

Interesting, but doesn't that ruin the rate of fire? Instead of 1 second to prime it takes 3. Also, heriticorp(hope I spelled that right) made a longshot that doesnt even use the bolt-sled and still has the same rate of fire as a normal ls.

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:07 PM

It's not just the boltsled, it was more designed to help the angel breech mod, so the glue connecting the bolt sled to the brass would never come undone cause it's not being put under stress, but yes, the no boltsled pressure is a major +. Granted, it does slightly slow down ROF, but I think it's worth it.


I agree with Ice it is a MAJOR +. I have personally have had a bolt sled snap and I was pissed! :angry:
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:07 PM

Interesting, but doesn't that ruin the rate of fire? Instead of 1 second to prime it takes 3. Also, heriticorp(hope I spelled that right) did an aleternate method that doesnt even use the boltsled and has the same good rate of fire.

Read the post above yours. Still requires glue to the brass which always disconnects after time. Anyway, just attached the keyring and a warhammer 40k rare earth magnet to the side, so when the gun it primed, press the keyring to the magnet and fire away, so the keyring is not a danger! Pics soon.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:08 PM

...From what I have heard not that many people use longshots....

What parallel fucking universe are you from?

Thats all them northerners up there usin' dem Longshots. Down here in da south we burn em' by da bushel. [/southern accent]

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:08 PM

...From what I have heard not that many people use longshots....

What parallel fucking universe are you from?

Don't most people use LBBs, BBBBs and similar style blasters? Or is it just that way in my area? The vast majority of my friends hate LSs because they have a tendancy to drift outdoors. Even indoors they aren't very popular (in my area).
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:11 PM

...From what I have heard not that many people use longshots....

What parallel fucking universe are you from?

Don't most people use LBBs, BBBBs and similar style blasters? Or is it just that way in my area? The vast majority of my friends hate LSs because they have a tendancy to drift outdoors. Even indoors they aren't very popular (in my area).

No you see your area is full of intelligent people who think "If I want a gun that shoots one dart, really far, I should just get a gun that was intended to do just about that"

Rather than
"I'm going to take my 35 dollar gun, scrap the shit out of it to single it with CPVC, and get it to shoot half decent"
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:26 PM

I did the same thing several months ago. My cord would always break from too much stress.
Honestly it's not all that practical, considering it removes functionality and, in my opinion, is far more susceptible to breaking than a boltsled.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:32 PM

I did the same thing several months ago. My cord would always break from too much stress.
Honestly it's not all that practical, considering it removes functionality and, in my opinion, is far more susceptible to breaking than a boltsled.

Clearly, your pull string/wire wasn't strong enough for the job. Mine's working great. Just wait for the internal pics, and you'll get it.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 07:45 PM

Can you still prime it the regular way? Incase your up close and need to squeeze out a few darts real fast?
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 08:15 PM

A little LongBow-esque?
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 08:16 PM

I spot an extremely large problem: you can't use the stock effectively. The string would just be under the friction of your shoulder, and stay in place, or atleast go in really slowly.

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