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#251 Captain

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 06:56 PM

FOUND ANOTHER VIDEO.

A nice guy on youtube sent this to me, a video from the toy fair. Right after it features the marshmallow guns, it talks about the Raider.


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Posted 26 February 2009 - 07:27 PM

Cheers for that Captain. My computer is being annoying and couldn't load the other vid.

My 2 concerns are;

1. The stroke length

2. The flimsy-looking clip

Unfortunately, i won't be getting one, unless they are released here is Australia.

I'm still hanging out for a mag-strike. :)
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#253 NightCabbage

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 07:49 PM

Both of you fix your grammar. Cabbage, don't reprimand someone and then use "lol" and an emoticon in the same post. Actually, don't reprimand anyone at all. EVER.

Sorry OMC, I wasn't reprimanding him, just amazed that he sat there for 3 minutes submitting the same post without checking to see if it posted. I was also providing a handy tip for people who don't realise that a server error doesn't generally mean their post wasn't made. It tied in quite nicely with my thread in the Site Feedback section about the number of server errors we're having lately. Almost every post suffers from a server error.

P.S. Emoticons aren't mentioned in the CoC (and you do have icons as part of the forum), but why are acronyms such as "lol" restricted? For me, a long time gamer, they're part of internet vocabulary. My grammar was quite correcct, minus the use of the acronym.

Looks like a latch to me. It would be interesting to see if they've made it a removable clip, like some maverick mods.

That's what I was thinking, however it looks like the barrel is completely built into the body, with no way to remove it. Even one of the pump rods goes through it.

So I think it's just for looks.

On the Raider - can anyone tell from that video whether it fires (in slam mode) when the pump is at the front of the gun, or at the back of the gun?

If it's at the front, then I'd guess there was a trigger there.
If it's at the back, then I'd guess there's a latch that is triggered when the pump hits the back (and the gun is loaded).

I think a lot of people are going to buy the Raider just for the 35 dart drum... A recon with a drum will be pretty amusing...

Edited by NightCabbage, 26 February 2009 - 07:57 PM.

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#254 Split

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 08:09 PM

It fires when the handle is forward. I mentioned it about 8 pages ago, and we had a small discussion on it, though I don't expect you to have read all this crap (I mean that lovingly). It's easiest to see in the original video.
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#255 NightCabbage

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 08:20 PM

It fires when the handle is forward. I mentioned it about 8 pages ago, and we had a small discussion on it, though I don't expect you to have read all this crap (I mean that lovingly). It's easiest to see in the original video.

Cheers. Yes, 8 pages, mainly of jibberish, is a bit tough on the eyes to read through, heh...

Ok, so it fires when it hits the front. So it must have a second trigger there? I'm guessing that secondary trigger is only active is the primary finger trigger is held down.
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#256 boisie

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 08:22 PM

First, I'll get the raider part of this post done: I do believe that the drum mag will change the playing field like the Doomsayer did. Not in such a big way, but in a big enough way that you can't have a longshot with a drum mag. 35 90-100ft shots will seem unfair to some people. I don't have an issue, but I do suspect there will be another Mag 7 rules debate over this.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 08:23 PM

NightCabbage, read the third line of the CoC, that way OMC has less blood has to clean.

Edited by Homestarune, 26 February 2009 - 08:24 PM.

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#258 NightCabbage

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 08:31 PM

NightCabbage, read the third line of the CoC, that way OMC has less blood has to clean.

"Avoid AIM-style (lol, u, ne, ppl, etc) spelling."

No, I know that's in there. I'm just wondering why it's in there.
It also doesn't mention anything about smileys (they're not leet speak).

The culture and attitude of this forum are just different, that's all. There are strange rules that don't always make a lot of sense, and no-one has explained why they're in place. I'll get used to it.

35 90-100ft shots will seem unfair to some people.

Yep, I think it'd definitely be interesting. Good fun for casual wars though.
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#259 Captain

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 08:41 PM

Ok, so it fires when it hits the front. So it must have a second trigger there? I'm guessing that secondary trigger is only active is the primary finger trigger is held down.


You're over-analyzing this. It fires when the pump reaches the front because the breech has to be closed before it shoots. It probably has a temporary catch that releases once the breech is closed. There is no secondary trigger on the fore-grip.
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#260 NightCabbage

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 08:49 PM

You're over-analyzing this. It fires when the pump reaches the front because the breech has to be closed before it shoots. It probably has a temporary catch that releases once the breech is closed. There is no secondary trigger on the fore-grip.

I know... half the fun. The gun has to fire somehow, so a trigger of some sort (not a manual external trigger, an automatic internal trigger) would be required.

Small point, not really worth discussing. I was merely musing.
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Posted 26 February 2009 - 10:58 PM

Alright, whatever.

Anyway, I heard from this guy that said his friend saw a Raider in a Toys R Us. He did not want to say where he lived (it is the internet after all), and I am hesitant to believe it. However, he did say that the friend did not know what gun it was, but was able to describe it and he's sure it was a Raider.

I cannot guarantee this is true, it's just what I heard.
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#262 Watari

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:44 PM

I can't believe i'm actually replying here but, regarding the Furyfire, it looks as if it's going to be a pump gun:
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Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:55 PM

Saw this here. Apparently it is gonna be released on July 31. But that is for Europe so I don't know whether it will be in the States before then or later, or right on time!
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#264 SchizophrenicMC

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 03:28 PM

Saw this here. Apparently it is gonna be released on July 31. But that is for Europe so I don't know whether it will be in the States before then or later, or right on time!

Probably before that date in the US. I'd say early July or mid July.

The sooner the better. (As long as they've worked out the kinks, that is!)
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#265 Merzlin

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 05:24 PM

Things usually come out later in European countries, but that differs from item to item. I guess we'll wait and see.
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 05:43 PM

Saw this here. Apparently it is gonna be released on July 31. But that is for Europe so I don't know whether it will be in the States before then or later, or right on time!

Boyaa. Ordering me that.

Play sometimes delivers to America by the way guys.

Just looked at the description. "This rapid fire blaster comes with a new drum magazine that holds 35 darts and collapsible stock! Take your missions to the next level! Includes raider blaster, drum magazine, collapsible stock, and 30 darts."
30 Darts? WTF.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 11:49 PM

Well, if it is coming out late July in Europe, Australia should see it before the next olympics. Maybe
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#268 NightCabbage

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Posted 28 February 2009 - 08:58 AM

Well, if it is coming out late July in Europe, Australia should see it before the next olympics. Maybe

Wishful thinking that we'll get it at all ;)

Probably have to import from the US
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#269 Norther of Heaven

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Posted 28 February 2009 - 11:36 AM

Hmm. The drum magazine seems useful, but flimsy, and for me it takes away from the gun. Just a regular or super clip would be better for the gun i think.

And that front handle is getting a shotgun grip makeover.
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#270 flyingchicken

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Posted 28 February 2009 - 03:21 PM

I finally realized why this gun look so familiar.

When you think about it, it's just like the Big Bad Bow, with the hole front handle thing. Of course, it probably has the internals of a longshot/recon, but still.
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#271 sputnik

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Posted 28 February 2009 - 03:26 PM

I finally realized why this gun look so familiar.

When you think about it, it's just like the Big Bad Bow.


Yeah, exactly like it.

In fact, I think they're made from the same mold!
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#272 AssassinNF

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Posted 28 February 2009 - 04:48 PM

Just looked at the description. "This rapid fire blaster comes with a new drum magazine that holds 35 darts and collapsible stock! Take your missions to the next level! Includes raider blaster, drum magazine, collapsible stock, and 30 darts."
30 Darts? WTF.


Wait.. :blink: WTF! You're right, it does say that... That seems kinda stupid. Hopefully it's a typo.
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Posted 01 March 2009 - 03:02 AM

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 10:13 PM

Please Pm me if someone said this already and I'll take this down.

I took it down

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 10:30 PM

*revalation* I think I know why the stock looks so flimsy! It's detatchable! Like the recon except hopefully with a larger piston and spring.

Please Pm me if someone said this already and I'll take this down.


1. Yes, it has already been stated that the stock is detachable.
2. I don't think it looks flimsy at all, it looks ALOT better than the Recon's and is styled after the M4 collapsible stock.
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