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#51 Kabuki

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 06:17 PM

Carbon, on Feb 2 2008, 08:19 PM, said:

TAiLsChaser, on Feb 2 2008, 09:36 PM, said:

Looks like a nice weapon. The only thing I would do to it would be to put a strap to hold my arm in place. That way, it'll be easier to hold and wield.

Yeah, I think some kind of cuff might be necessary. Some work on the ergonomics are definitely needed.




If you decide to go with a cuff of some type, I'd be happy to help. I make giant wristwatches (from old pocket watches) using big leather cuffs.

EDIT: Nevermind. I guess I should read the entire thread before I reply, eh?

Edited by Kabuki, 12 February 2008 - 06:20 PM.

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#52 Carbon

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 09:23 PM

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With that gun you could even make a matching outfit.

I get the image of Rob Halford taking up Nerfing. As it was, I was humming "The Sentinel" to myself as I was hammering rivets.

And that's some nice work, Kabuki...

On to the night's improvements.

Figuring a way to attach the shield, while keeping it removable...I decided to use a "ciip-on" method, taking advantage of my various tubing sizes. I decided to use PVC rings and chicago screws to add clips to the shield, which then can just snap on to the body of the gun. Since the areas that I wanted to attach to were 1.25" PVC and 3/4" couplers, I could use rings of 1.25" couplers and 1.25" PVC. I know this little description isn't clear, but the following pictures should clear it up.....

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The underbelly:
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I made a slight revision to the triggers, in that it's now "handed". I have it set up for a right-handed trigger, but that's easy enough to switch, by flipping around the trigger towers. I ended up going that route because I was having problems with the trigger pull using my ring finger....no quite enough leverage. The fix was both lucky and easy. I had only trimmed off one of my trigger pivots, inside the tee. I just attached the pull ring to the absolute end of the mending plate, and not I have a trigger which I can pull with my middle finger with better leverage.
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Stuff still to do:

Fix the front trigger cowling....it's a bit short, and wobbles badly.
Add a second CPVC tee to my other plunger rod...the keychains are uncomfortable in this position.
Some manner of gauntlet/cuff. I won't need near as much reinforcement as I thought, though.
I may need to tweak barrels, as I was getting double-fires this afternoon.
And a proper paint job.

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#53 sam

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 09:31 PM

Looks pretty bitchin'!
The only thing I'd be worried about is all that extra stuff hanging out of the front, not protected by the shield part. Technically, if that was hit, it would count as a hit, and not a block, at least according to Baghead's rules for homemade mantas.
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#54 Carbon

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 09:45 PM

sam, on Feb 12 2008, 08:31 PM, said:

Looks pretty bitchin'!
The only thing I'd be worried about is all that extra stuff hanging out of the front, not protected by the shield part. Technically, if that was hit, it would count as a hit, and not a block, at least according to Baghead's rules for homemade mantas.

Yeah...and that's fair. The gun body ended up being a bit longer than I hoped, but it also has a fair degree of power, and 10 shots...presenting a bigger target seems only right.
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#55 Diablo

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 05:35 AM

Looks great! I've been very interested in this project from the beginning, and you haven't disappointed me yet.

I hope you're able to easily fix the problems you listed, and I'm looking forward to the paint job.
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Posted 13 February 2008 - 04:41 PM

Once again another great creation by FA_24 nice job.
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Posted 13 February 2008 - 04:47 PM

firstblood, on Feb 13 2008, 03:41 PM, said:

Once again another great creation by FA_24 nice job.

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#58 Cannonball

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 04:57 PM

nice work. I like how you can remove the shield. What's with one T replacing one of the key rings in the front of the gun? are you going to replace the other as well or is it just harder to cock that tube because of holding the gun/posture?
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#59 Kabuki

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 05:45 PM

Holy Dart Tag, Nerf Man! That is pretty awesome so far... I'm quite impressed.
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Posted 13 February 2008 - 06:03 PM

firstblood, on Feb 13 2008, 04:41 PM, said:

Once again another great creation by FA_24 nice job.



That cracked me up.

Carbon, I love the design. The leather was an inexpensive and efficient way to build it. Great job.
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#61 PointBlank

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 06:13 PM

So its a shield/ gun? I love it!
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#62 frost vectron

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 09:07 PM

The black leather really reminds me of batman.

I really like how it turned out.

Another great creation by Carbon!
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#63 baghead

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 09:10 PM

firstblood, on Feb 13 2008, 01:41 PM, said:

Once again another great creation by FA_24 nice job.



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And If we ever meet on the field of battle... I'll Happily bitchslap you myself.

That is all


Carbon, Once again... I have to say that that fucking kicks ass.


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Posted 13 February 2008 - 11:21 PM

firstblood, on Feb 13 2008, 01:41 PM, said:

Once again another great creation by FA_24 nice job.


Perhaps we should add "Read WHO posts a thread before you comment on it" to the Code of Conduct.

Right underneath where it says "Carbon, that is awesome."

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#65 nerfturtle

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 11:42 PM

I have been meaning to give you a thumbs up in this thread for a while, but now that the shield is finished I feel it is due.

This is one of those guns that everybody wants, beautiful in all aspects.

By the way, I like the new avatar, much more fitting!
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Posted 17 February 2008 - 05:00 PM

Carbon, have you considered the possibility of using a T connection to branch two barrels off of one piston? That would give you the 4-dart salvo capacity of the original Manta.

I have a worn-out Manta sitting next to me in a state of semi-disassembly if you need any internal pics to work from.

(1st post, by the way. I've been admiring your work (and that of Captain Slug) for months, but only got my user name validation today.)
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Posted 17 February 2008 - 06:16 PM

GBscientist, on Feb 17 2008, 04:00 PM, said:

Carbon, have you considered the possibility of using a T connection to branch two barrels off of one piston? That would give you the 4-dart salvo capacity of the original Manta.

I have a worn-out Manta sitting next to me in a state of semi-disassembly if you need any internal pics to work from.

(1st post, by the way. I've been admiring your work (and that of Captain Slug) for months, but only got my user name validation today.)

I've always been a little wary of going that route, because they can be very inconsistent (if one dart is a little loose, the other won't go anywhere, stuff like that). But to be honest, I've never tried. I probably wouldn't on this gun, because it has inline clips...but it'd be something to try in the future.

I've toyed around with going the other route, though...multiple plungers on one barrel. But that's crazy talk for another time.
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Posted 21 February 2008 - 01:24 AM

The shield looks absolutely awesome. My only suggestion is to paint the PVC black to match, that basic white isn't doing it for me. Great work!
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Posted 21 February 2008 - 01:41 PM

Yup, a paint job is definitely in the works. A total black paintjob would look brutal...but I've got a few two-tone ideas in mind. The entire gun comes apart (completely built with screws), so I think I'll play around with a multi-color scheme...possibly silver and blue, or maybe silver and pewter (something more subtle).

I'm in apartment living, though, so I don't think I'm going to be able to do anything before spring...which is going to drive me crazy.
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