Yesterday, I finished yet another gun straight from the scrap pile - my ZomBBB: (ZombieBB, get it?)
It has half of a +bow spring in it, it has a Firefly turret on the front, and the handle has been moved to the side for reasons I cannot remember (I did that a looong time ago.)
It gets ranges in the 70's and occasional 80's.
While doing this mod, I took the opportunity to make a writeup on how to add a firefly turret to a gun.
Let's get started.
Rip the turret assembly out of your donor firefly. IIRC, you'll have to unscrew 5 screws.
Take out the screw in the center of the rotating mech and set all though pieces aside for now. Then unscrew the 6 screws (3 in front, 3 in back) from the turret:
Pry the turret apart with a flathead screwdriver:
All this shit falls out. Get rid of it.
Take a fairly long screwdriver, and punch out the peg pieces. You don't need/want those either.
Here's all the parts you should have now:
Here's the shit you don't need:
You also don't need the 6 screws you took out.
Now take a 1/2" drill bit (or a 17/32" one if you have it), and open up the holes in the back of the turret:
SAFETY WARNING: When drilling each hole, the drill bit will want to grab on to the part, and violently rip it out of your hands, spinning it wildly with the drill bit. This happened to me, and you can see where it took a small chunk out of my finger - I was lucky. You need to have a FIRM grip on the part. I suggest using vice-grips or channel-locks to hold on to the piece.
Take the larger pink part of the rotating mech, and shove it into a 1/2" PVC coupler as far as it will go. It will be a very tight fit.
On the other side of the coupler, cut it even with the pink piece:
Now start putting the turret back together, like this:
Then screw it together.
Please wait for PART 2.
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How To Integrate A Firefly Turret
26 June 2009 - 08:44 PM
Longshot Back From The Dead
20 June 2009 - 01:57 AM
OK, so I've had this torn up Longshot in my closet for a long time now. It was a casualty of my early n00bishness, and I destroyed the gun to the point where an Angel breech wasn't even possible. All that was intact was the Plunger tube and plunger - everything else was either shattered, cut up, or lost.
Since the gun was such a disaster, I had to start from scratch - and that meant singling it. I managed to find its plunger catch, and got to work.
Here it is now:
I ended up with what is essentially the opposite of Ice's singled LS mod - instead of a coupler sliding over a barrel, it's a pipe going into a coupler that's attached to the barrel.
Internals:
It works just like a singled longshot, it's just made differently. To counter the safety issues created by singled Longshots (like finger loss), I did a few things:
First, I cut notches in the side for the bolt. Should the catch fail, the bolt's not going anywhere:
Second, I put a ridiculous spring on the catch:
If that shit slips, I will be very fucking surprised.
This entire gun was constructed just to give this little guy a purpose. I saw CS's integrations, and thought about guns I could slap the SMG onto. Then I thought about the poor mangled black and red Longshot I had in my closet, and decided to bring it back from the dead.
I added Velcro, and attached the Spidey Gun to the side of the LS:
Once I got that all working, I did all kinds of little mods and cosmetics.
Stock Reinforcement (1 1/4" PVC):
A new bolt handle, with a lock nut that fits on the bolt glued inside, so you just screw on the handle.
Ammo Holders - PETG inside Firefly ammo holders:
Barrel and Light from a recon - removable:
I added the recon barrel because I didn't like that long, bland piece of PVC sticking out of my gun. The barrel looks fucking awful in this picture, but in real life, you can't see any yellow at all. I guess the camera flash brought it out.
I also cut off the LS's carry handle, since it was in the way.
Some more pictures:
Bolt Opened:
Bolt Closed:
Its barrel is 17/32 Brass and SCH80 PVC, and it has a silver LS and streched NF spring in it. It gets around 80', and the SMG gets around 40'.
I like this gun alot. It's ROF leaves something to be desired, but you always have the Spidey gun in case someone rushes you. It's trigger is always there as a sort of panic button.
Q's/C's/F's?
Since the gun was such a disaster, I had to start from scratch - and that meant singling it. I managed to find its plunger catch, and got to work.
Here it is now:
I ended up with what is essentially the opposite of Ice's singled LS mod - instead of a coupler sliding over a barrel, it's a pipe going into a coupler that's attached to the barrel.
Internals:
It works just like a singled longshot, it's just made differently. To counter the safety issues created by singled Longshots (like finger loss), I did a few things:
First, I cut notches in the side for the bolt. Should the catch fail, the bolt's not going anywhere:
Second, I put a ridiculous spring on the catch:
If that shit slips, I will be very fucking surprised.
This entire gun was constructed just to give this little guy a purpose. I saw CS's integrations, and thought about guns I could slap the SMG onto. Then I thought about the poor mangled black and red Longshot I had in my closet, and decided to bring it back from the dead.
I added Velcro, and attached the Spidey Gun to the side of the LS:
Once I got that all working, I did all kinds of little mods and cosmetics.
Stock Reinforcement (1 1/4" PVC):
A new bolt handle, with a lock nut that fits on the bolt glued inside, so you just screw on the handle.
Ammo Holders - PETG inside Firefly ammo holders:
Barrel and Light from a recon - removable:
I added the recon barrel because I didn't like that long, bland piece of PVC sticking out of my gun. The barrel looks fucking awful in this picture, but in real life, you can't see any yellow at all. I guess the camera flash brought it out.
I also cut off the LS's carry handle, since it was in the way.
Some more pictures:
Bolt Opened:
Bolt Closed:
Its barrel is 17/32 Brass and SCH80 PVC, and it has a silver LS and streched NF spring in it. It gets around 80', and the SMG gets around 40'.
I like this gun alot. It's ROF leaves something to be desired, but you always have the Spidey gun in case someone rushes you. It's trigger is always there as a sort of panic button.
Q's/C's/F's?
Spiderman Gun Thing
19 June 2009 - 02:16 AM
I found this neat like spiderman gun at my local RiteAid.
On first glance, the gun flat out sucks. The plunger stroke seems to be less than 2 inches, it will never fit on the wrist of anyone over the age of 5, and it suffers from crossbow syndrome - the barrel and the plunger are in different places. Plus, the air restrictor must be pretty fucking badass because NO air comes out without a dart in it. Oh, and the ranges are 10 feet max.
It has a weirdass cocking mechanism, too. You pull it, and release it, and it returns to it's original position, minus a few millimeters. Then you push the plunger rod like a button, and it fires. The video at the end of this mod shows what I'm talking about.
Let's open 'er up!
First remove the 6 screws at the bottom:
Then, before it will open, you must pry off/slide over this cap:
Mine came off with a little prying. It wasn't too hard.
Now the gun should open up fine:
Here's the internals:
Time to get out the dremel.
Cut this extra shit off:
This part is optional, but it makes the gun smaller. It's never going to fit on your wrist anyway.
Now, cut off the crappy barrel:
Your plunger tube should now look like this:
Before I went further, I disected the barrel out of curiosity:
You remember when I mentioned the freakish air restrictor? It has a fucking o-ring on it!
Now glue on a barrel of your choosing. I used the original barrel, because it looks cool and it fits my darts pretty good:
Make sure you cover up that open place in the plunger with glue:
And now your done!
Size comparison with a Longshot Scope:
Now this gun performs similarly to an eliminator, with ranges of about 30-40 feet. It's pretty small, so it could be good for integrations. It's awkward as hell to fire, though. Here's a video showing the weird priming/firing method:
vid-ness
My camera's brightness settings are getting worse and worse, so this video's ridiculously dark, but you can see the weird priming mech at the beginning.
It's a neat little gun, but it's not going to see any use unless I slap it onto something else. It's just too awkward to aim/fire on it's own.
Q's/C's/F's?
On first glance, the gun flat out sucks. The plunger stroke seems to be less than 2 inches, it will never fit on the wrist of anyone over the age of 5, and it suffers from crossbow syndrome - the barrel and the plunger are in different places. Plus, the air restrictor must be pretty fucking badass because NO air comes out without a dart in it. Oh, and the ranges are 10 feet max.
It has a weirdass cocking mechanism, too. You pull it, and release it, and it returns to it's original position, minus a few millimeters. Then you push the plunger rod like a button, and it fires. The video at the end of this mod shows what I'm talking about.
Let's open 'er up!
First remove the 6 screws at the bottom:
Then, before it will open, you must pry off/slide over this cap:
Mine came off with a little prying. It wasn't too hard.
Now the gun should open up fine:
Here's the internals:
Time to get out the dremel.
Cut this extra shit off:
This part is optional, but it makes the gun smaller. It's never going to fit on your wrist anyway.
Now, cut off the crappy barrel:
Your plunger tube should now look like this:
Before I went further, I disected the barrel out of curiosity:
You remember when I mentioned the freakish air restrictor? It has a fucking o-ring on it!
Now glue on a barrel of your choosing. I used the original barrel, because it looks cool and it fits my darts pretty good:
Make sure you cover up that open place in the plunger with glue:
And now your done!
Size comparison with a Longshot Scope:
Now this gun performs similarly to an eliminator, with ranges of about 30-40 feet. It's pretty small, so it could be good for integrations. It's awkward as hell to fire, though. Here's a video showing the weird priming/firing method:
vid-ness
My camera's brightness settings are getting worse and worse, so this video's ridiculously dark, but you can see the weird priming mech at the beginning.
It's a neat little gun, but it's not going to see any use unless I slap it onto something else. It's just too awkward to aim/fire on it's own.
Q's/C's/F's?
The Creamsicle
12 June 2009 - 08:02 PM
My poor BBBB needed some love. It originally had a Maverick cylinder slapped on it, and it fired all barrels at once, about 10 feet.
Here it is now:
I has a firefly turret on it, with 10" barrels. The barrels are each 3" of 17/32" brass and 7" of 1/2" SCH80 PVC. It's rear loading, and the turret is manually rotated. I haven't tested ranges outside yet, but 100' ranges seem likely. It only takes 6 pumps to fill it, since I haven't plugged it (and I'm not going to).
Internals:
It has a Firefly turret and rotation mech. The rotation mech has been showed into a 1/2" PVC coupler, and bolted to a coupler that is epoxied onto the BBBB. I built a polycarb piece that holds the turret in place, and gives it a perfect seal. The polycarb piece curved around the turret towards the front is for added support.
You know how you can grab a firefly's turret and rotate it without pulling the trigger, and it clicks into place on each barrel? I utilized that to create a manual turret here. Each barrel clicks into place, and the barrels are always aligned properly.
Now for paint... I showed it to one of my friends, and they said "you need to paint that shit another color, it looks like a fucking creamsicle!" That's why I have dubbed it "the Creamsicle", and I'm going to paint the barrels white and leave everything else the way it is.
I also added an ammo holder from the firefly. It will be painted white as well.
I love this gun. It's a little front heavy, but you're naturally inclined to have your other hand holding the turret, so it's very comfortable. The accuracy and power behind each shot surprised me. It's like an air-powered Doomsayer.
I will try to put up a video (hopefully a better vid than the ones I've been posting) after I paint it.
Questions? Comments? Flames? Why have I done 3 mods in 4 days?
Here it is now:
I has a firefly turret on it, with 10" barrels. The barrels are each 3" of 17/32" brass and 7" of 1/2" SCH80 PVC. It's rear loading, and the turret is manually rotated. I haven't tested ranges outside yet, but 100' ranges seem likely. It only takes 6 pumps to fill it, since I haven't plugged it (and I'm not going to).
Internals:
It has a Firefly turret and rotation mech. The rotation mech has been showed into a 1/2" PVC coupler, and bolted to a coupler that is epoxied onto the BBBB. I built a polycarb piece that holds the turret in place, and gives it a perfect seal. The polycarb piece curved around the turret towards the front is for added support.
You know how you can grab a firefly's turret and rotate it without pulling the trigger, and it clicks into place on each barrel? I utilized that to create a manual turret here. Each barrel clicks into place, and the barrels are always aligned properly.
Now for paint... I showed it to one of my friends, and they said "you need to paint that shit another color, it looks like a fucking creamsicle!" That's why I have dubbed it "the Creamsicle", and I'm going to paint the barrels white and leave everything else the way it is.
I also added an ammo holder from the firefly. It will be painted white as well.
I love this gun. It's a little front heavy, but you're naturally inclined to have your other hand holding the turret, so it's very comfortable. The accuracy and power behind each shot surprised me. It's like an air-powered Doomsayer.
I will try to put up a video (hopefully a better vid than the ones I've been posting) after I paint it.
Questions? Comments? Flames? Why have I done 3 mods in 4 days?
Mav3k
10 June 2009 - 10:50 PM
Summer = More free time than usual
Today I looked in my box of spare parts:
And made this entirely from parts I found:
It's a Maverick with an AT3K tank instead of a plunger tube, and a greatly increased seal.
Internals:
And here's a shitty video from my shitty camera, in case anyone want's to see how it works.
link
One of those shots was a misfire, due to the turret not rotating correctly.
I used some polycarb to increase the seal between the tank and the turret, and the result was 50'+ ranges, with a side-effect of severe rotation problems. I have reinforced the rotating mech in the usual ways - glueing the teeth together, adding springs to the trigger, etc, but it still has problems. It rotates fine on the pull of the trigger, but doesn't on the return, and the trigger doesn't want to return all the way. Anyone got any suggestions on how to fix this? I almost have to manually rotate the turret after firing each time.
Today I looked in my box of spare parts:
And made this entirely from parts I found:
It's a Maverick with an AT3K tank instead of a plunger tube, and a greatly increased seal.
Internals:
And here's a shitty video from my shitty camera, in case anyone want's to see how it works.
link
One of those shots was a misfire, due to the turret not rotating correctly.
I used some polycarb to increase the seal between the tank and the turret, and the result was 50'+ ranges, with a side-effect of severe rotation problems. I have reinforced the rotating mech in the usual ways - glueing the teeth together, adding springs to the trigger, etc, but it still has problems. It rotates fine on the pull of the trigger, but doesn't on the return, and the trigger doesn't want to return all the way. Anyone got any suggestions on how to fix this? I almost have to manually rotate the turret after firing each time.
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