#1
Posted 02 March 2005 - 03:14 PM
Okay, this is what's eating me: For ages the best (and most hard to find) gun has been the crossbow, everyone has accepted this, it is fact. The crossbow had a significantly larger range than its nearest competitors, thus making long range battle with an x-bow wielder an exercise in futility.
Then they made the titan.
The gun that, when modded, can fire stefans almost TWICE the distance the most heavily modded x-bow can. And instead of the cries of joy I had expected, for finally a stupidly long-range gun is available to those not willing to pay extorbatent prices on ebay, I see a bunch of whining. A whole bunch of crap along the lines of "wow that rocks, but I'm not letting it in my war because it's too powerful."
Bollocks.
This is finally a gun that can give the x-bow a run for its money in terms of sheer distance and instead of running out and buying one to teach that snotty bastard down the road a lesson in pain, everyone is just whining about it.
Thoughts? opinions? Noodles?
#2
Posted 02 March 2005 - 03:46 PM
The Titan ruins the point of a friendly and ferocious gun battle. That's how I feel about them anyway.
#3
Posted 02 March 2005 - 03:50 PM
#4
Posted 02 March 2005 - 03:53 PM
Besides, the sm5k was banned by everyone as well. Why? Because you're going to fucking kill someone.
Before you post EVER again about this topic read my blog:
http://nerfblogger.blogspot.com/
Read the second article down. All of it. You will understand.
Talio.
#5
Posted 02 March 2005 - 04:16 PM
Sorry I couldn't find a *yawning* smiley...
Grum,
Post whatever you want whenever you want (within reason). Talio's Nerf blog doesn't have much say over you EVER posting. His blog isn't the be all end all.
Anyway, the Crossbow has solid range and its accuracy is one of its greatest assets. Reload time, as mentioned before, is also the reason so many of us find it so reliable. It's great because its balanced and feels just right if you know what you're doing with it.
The Titan on the other hand, is just an overwhelming and obscene piece of Nerf that can ruin an altogether great time.
#6
Posted 02 March 2005 - 04:18 PM
Scenario time.
Guy with a primed Titan and guy with a cocked Crossbow start at opposite ends of a football field. They rush each other. At his 35 yard line, Titan fires at Crossbow.
Say he misses 50% of the time at that range, which he likely will. Crossbow now has about 30 seconds and all kinds of space before Titan can get off another shot, during which Crossbow gets within about 20 yards (to stay out of sidearm range) and nails Titan.
So.
The Titan is a weapon that lets you shoot one person a zillion feet away twice a minute, but hit them about 50% of the time at that range.
The Crossbow is a weapon that lets you hit shoot person about fifty feet away, six times a minute if you're good, and nail them 100% of the time unless you make bad darts or can't shoot.
They both have uses, but I will side with the Crossbow and say it's more versatile.
And I will absolutely ban Titans from any and all indoor wars, unless it's shooting the giant ballista ammo.
#7
Posted 02 March 2005 - 04:18 PM
Talio, I don't have a crossbow. I've been basing that range estimate off various mod articles under the assumption that people actualy measured their ranges (like I do).
I have no particular stnce towards either titans or x-bows since I own neither, I was merely curious at the apparent double standards expressed here and on NHQ.
#8
Posted 02 March 2005 - 04:59 PM
~ompa
#9
Posted 02 March 2005 - 05:43 PM
Talio.
#10
Posted 02 March 2005 - 06:03 PM
#11
Posted 02 March 2005 - 06:04 PM
I say Bollocks to that. Why on Earth would you want a gun that shoots insane distances (whilst of course taking in the factor of time involved in priming a single shot), obviously has the greatest power as far as air output goes, and is rediculously large? I think the reason why most people don't use them in wars is because they're impractical in most situations. Honestly, where's the challenge in that? It all goes back to the whole Red vs. Blue argument - "If you have a ship big enough to carry a tank, why don't you just put guns on the ship and use it instead?" For obvious reasons of sheer, raw power, like you and several others stated, I know is why most people don't allow them in wars....I see a bunch of whining. A whole bunch of crap along the lines of "wow that rocks, but I'm not letting it in my war because it's too powerful."
Bollocks.
"Too close for missiles, I'm switchin' to guns"
#12
Posted 02 March 2005 - 06:20 PM
Talio.
#13
Posted 02 March 2005 - 06:31 PM
Yes, glasses are a necessity(sp). Back when i was first starting out a new nerfer refused to wear eye protection because he didn't feel he needed it. Then, a little while later he got shot directly in the eye. As a result he was blinded for nearley 3 weeks and is permanentley disfigured. True story.
I love how all these new guns come in and just because they are all new and shiny people automatically think they are better than older guns. I don't know if its the old school in me, but id take a LNL over a TTG any day of the week.
I still believe the crossbow is the most powerful gun (with the exception of the ultimator/xxl). I personally have SEEN a crossbow go a legit 200ft. It even dented drywall from 15ft. I now own that gun but its just a shell of its former self (literally).
#14
Posted 02 March 2005 - 07:42 PM
Edited by Viper, 02 March 2005 - 07:43 PM.
#15
Posted 02 March 2005 - 09:25 PM
Talio.
#16
Posted 02 March 2005 - 09:42 PM
You sir, are full of shit.I personally have SEEN a crossbow go a legit 200ft. It even dented drywall from 15ft.
#17
Posted 02 March 2005 - 10:02 PM
I think you lose, right there, just by stating that any gun is the 'best.'For ages the best (and most hard to find) gun has been the crossbow, everyone has accepted this, it is fact.
Yay, Talio can spell 'field.'
AA
#18
Posted 02 March 2005 - 10:05 PM
You sir are a fucking idiot.You sir, are full of shit.I personally have SEEN a crossbow go a legit 200ft. It even dented drywall from 15ft.
I've SEEN IT. That number may be 15-5 ft off but i know what i see.
As for permanentley disfigured i mean that the kid has a blood burst or something like that in his eye. That i've never actually seen, only heared.
#19
Posted 03 March 2005 - 12:40 AM
best
Damn, I really should have caught that.
Best is the wrong word, "rather good" might be a better term. Anyway, after reading some of the replies I've come to agree with the anti-titans, anything that can cause real harm to a fellow nerfer shouldn't be allowed in, bleeding and blindness just aren't fun.
#20
Posted 03 March 2005 - 01:27 PM
No I have to agree with him, you sound pretty much full of shit.You sir are a fucking idiot.
You sir, are full of shit.I personally have SEEN a crossbow go a legit 200ft. It even dented drywall from 15ft.
I've SEEN IT. That number may be 15-5 ft off but i know what i see.
As for permanentley disfigured i mean that the kid has a blood burst or something like that in his eye. That i've never actually seen, only heared.
Seriously, what the hell did he mod it with, Gasoline? It doesn't count if the dart goes 200 feet and so does your face. Dented dry wall I can understand. Hell I've stumbled into dry wall and caused holes. Putting a dent from 15 feet away while a solid tip object hitting it at about 90 fps is beleivable, getting better ranges then my Tippman A5 paintball fun is not. Seriously, even CX's BAMF didn't hit that, so yes, 200 feet with a crossbow means you've been also been kissing the blarny stone.
Talio.
#21
Posted 03 March 2005 - 02:58 PM
#22
Posted 03 March 2005 - 04:22 PM
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that you had PERSONALLY SEEN IT. That changes everything, because nobody exaggerates on the Internet. No sir.You sir are a fucking idiot.
You sir, are full of shit.I personally have SEEN a crossbow go a legit 200ft. It even dented drywall from 15ft.
I've SEEN IT. That number may be 15-5 ft off but i know what i see.
Besides that, I know you so well, I should know to take you at your word. I mean, we've been best buddies for years, right?
Nobody's word is worth anything on the Internet without proof, sir. I would take people like cx at their word, because he is rational, measures his results, and is not interested in making himself look good as much as he is interested in reporting accurate info.
I would not take people like you (and you aren't the only one, there are several others, some have names with 'nightmare' in them) at their word because they make ridiculous claims, then back them up with "I SAID IT SO IT'S TRUE".
#23
Posted 03 March 2005 - 04:30 PM
#24
Posted 03 March 2005 - 08:30 PM
Well, believe what you want to believe. I don't know what id get out of exagerating anyways..Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that you had PERSONALLY SEEN IT. That changes everything, because nobody exaggerates on the Internet. No sir.You sir are a fucking idiot.
You sir, are full of shit.I personally have SEEN a crossbow go a legit 200ft. It even dented drywall from 15ft.
I've SEEN IT. That number may be 15-5 ft off but i know what i see.
Besides that, I know you so well, I should know to take you at your word. I mean, we've been best buddies for years, right?
Nobody's word is worth anything on the Internet without proof, sir. I would take people like cx at their word, because he is rational, measures his results, and is not interested in making himself look good as much as he is interested in reporting accurate info.
I would not take people like you (and you aren't the only one, there are several others, some have names with 'nightmare' in them) at their word because they make ridiculous claims, then back them up with "I SAID IT SO IT'S TRUE".
Fucktard.
#25
Posted 04 March 2005 - 12:30 AM
Itallion should be better than resorting to silly name calling, I remember I had a lot of respect for him not long ago.
Fucktards.
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