if it turns out that linkin park is short lived, so what ....
that really dosent matter. what matters is that linkin park got credit for blending generes. of course they didn't invent it, but they are the ones getting credit for it.
this kinda thing has happend before
Who is giving them credit? All the stupid specials I see on VH1 and such credit Aerosmith with Run DMC and Anthrax with Public Enemy as the first to blend the genres (oh, right, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers). I've actually never seen anyone give Linkin Park credit for any such feat.
you think 2 albums and shitty music makes a difference to whether you get your name in the books ?
I think that you need more than two albums that sound pretty much identical to be really remembered. There are plenty of bands that you can go back and pull up that pulled similair stunts and 80% of the population today has no idea what the hell you are talking about. I mean, damn, does anyone even remember Sponge, The Screaming Trees, Nada Surf, Candlebox, The Outfield, New Order, etc?
how about a little band called Flock of Seagulls
or even worse, how about Devo
You missed my point. I'm not questioning their talent or quality of music, I have their first album (before most of you fuckers, I might add) and I listened to it quite a bit... I'm not even calling the music "shitty". Granted, the music is "repetetive" and the band has "run out of ideas" already, but I'm not saying they are "bad" persay. My point is: The band is overrated, and they haven't yet made a Permanent mark.
as for shredding,
take a look at what happend to it after nirvana. of course it diddnt die, but it sure isnt thriving.
my scope of music isnt limmited, but i am however limiting it to the relm of pop. since that really is the only thing that gets remembered about a time period. that and whats just under the surface.
the only shredding ive heard thats broken mainstream, is brownsound from sum41.
you could argue that kerry king and zack wylde are somewhat mainstream. in that case, i would agree. but they are still a ways from bieng household names.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go ahead and argue that Slayer and Ozzy are household names. I'm also gonna have to go and argue that bands such as Pantera and Damageplan were in the mainstream as well, and we all know mr. Darrell Abbott did his fair share of shredding. I might also have to argue that the Black Label Society is in the mainstream as well seen as how it gets so much radio play these days. I also have to point out that in the past 5-8 years there has been a great increase in underground metal bands who are slowly making their way into the mainstream (slowly now) that pride themselves on technical prowess on the guitar and such (such as In Flames, Killswitch Engage, God Forbid, etc.)
I also feel it neccessary to point out albums such as Metallica's the Black Album (Metallica) that still sell many copies everyday; these albums do indeed feature shredding. While they were recorded before Nirvana, they are still on the radio and still selling copies now (post-nirvana). The black album has sold uber-millions of copies, and other albums such as Guns N' Roses Appetite for Destruction which have also been very successful. I'm sorry, but I don't see the decline in shredding.
dont think at all that i oppose shredding, but i just think its sad that some people spend half of thier life learning how, and now in the year 2004 the only people that
will listen is at the local guitar center.
(speaking of... where the fuck was i when gibson sued PRS ? why the hell am i learning about this just now???)
I must've completely missed that as well, why in god's name did they sue PRS? I know they sued ESP a while back for using thier designs, but I had no idea about PRS.
Edited by Ash, 17 December 2004 - 09:14 PM.