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[Cheefman45]

So I was sitting and thinking about what to do to my strongarm as there aren't many cool practical strongarm mods so I thought why not make it have one handed operation. Before people say just buy a hammershot I would rather make a strong arm like that. Of course that would disable slamfire, but slam fire is so inaccurate on the strongarm that would be a pro. I would like to know does anyone have any ideas about that I would like to read them and see if any would work. I will continue to brainstorm while I read your ideas.

Edited by Cheefman45, 17 June 2016 - 07:53 AM.

[xXD3V1LXx]

If you 3d print a gear box you can change a turning motion like the hammer shot into a straight back and fourth motion like a strongarm.

[Vexal]

It would technically wouldn't be one handed but what about making a thing for your other arm to push against to prime it? Imaging taking the hook from the Apollo and adding it to the priming bar (that sort of idea, but made out of other stuff)

[Cheefman45]

Vexal, on 17 Jun 2016 - 02:01 AM, said:

It would technically wouldn't be one handed but what about making a thing for your other arm to push against to prime it? Imaging taking the hook from the Apollo and adding it to the priming bar (that sort of idea, but made out of other stuff)

It's a nice idea that will probably work. I will think about that definitely and think how I can make it truly one handed
I was thinking of finding a way to add a hammershot like thing onto it.

Edited by Cheefman45, 16 June 2016 - 09:45 PM.

[LordGiratia]

You could just attach a sling to the priming handle and prime it with your back.

[Cheefman45]

LordGiratia, on 17 Jun 2016 - 02:53 AM, said:

You could just attach a sling to the priming handle and prime it with your back.

Another good
idea to take in to account but think of the potential tangles and other problems that would come with that I was thinking of a pullback kinda like old school revolvers.

Edited by Cheefman45, 16 June 2016 - 10:10 PM.

[TypicalSeattleModder]

I like LordGiratia's idea 

D3VIL Do you know how hard that would be? The gears would probably break from all the stress.

[xXD3V1LXx]

Not necassarily... I could print a batch of gears see what i can get going and ill let you know how it turns out.

[Cheefman45]

TypicalSeattleModder, on 17 Jun 2016 - 05:13 AM, said:

I like LordGiratia's idea 
D3VIL Do you know how hard that would be? The gears would probably break from all the stress.

Your right I have decided to just make a holster or use something as a holster and attach a Carbineer to the back of the slide. That way I can attach and detach it as I please the other end would be attached to the holster.

[Meaker VI]

LordGiratia, on 17 Jun 2016 - 02:53 AM, said:

You could just attach a sling to the priming handle and prime it with your back.

 

I used to do this with mavericks. It's really the easiest and most practical solution, if a bit awkward to get used to.

[Cheefman45]

xXD3V1LXx, on 17 Jun 2016 - 08:07 AM, said:

Not necassarily... I could print a batch of gears see what i can get going and ill let you know how it turns out.

While you do that I may try to experiment with wood.

[TypicalSeattleModder]

Keep the slamfire option and do LordGiratia's concept. So that when you dual wield the strong-arm you could do a punching motion 

[Cheefman45]

TypicalSeattleModder, on 18 Jun 2016 - 01:42 AM, said:

Keep the slamfire option and do LordGiratia's concept. So that when you dual wield the strong-arm you could do a punching motion 

I am still debating with myself. I know my personal playstyle wouldn't work well with that plus dual wielding isn't my thing. I run around too much for that to be efficient. I hate staying in one space that's why I wanted it to have a hammer on it, as my strongarm is my backup when I'm empty and am reloading . If you read my most recent retaliator mod you would see that I use that for a primary. And that can be bulky at times. Plus I like to do challenging mods with the basic stuff I have and the string one is already done.

Edited by Cheefman45, 17 June 2016 - 09:05 PM.

[Phillip Roy]

Are you specifically wanting a one handed springer? I know you said not to recommend the Hammershot, but what about the barricade?

Edit: I understand the barricade is a flywheel, but I suggested it as a suggestion for a revolver-like secondary as opposed to the strongarm.

Edited by Phillip Roy, 19 June 2016 - 01:12 PM.

[Cheefman45]

Phillip Roy, on 19 Jun 2016 - 5:44 PM, said:

Are you specifically wanting a one handed springer? I know you said not to recommend the Hammershot, but what about the barricade?

The barricade is a flywheel and I own a stockade which am am modding to use a magazine.

[MavMaster]

Cheefman45, on 19 Jun 2016 - 6:00 PM, said:

The barricade is a flywheel and I own a stockade which am am modding to use a magazine.

thats really hard to do well, and you will have to mod the flywheels. i have attempted both, the CS mod failed, and the flywheels worked okay. i wrapped them in textured paper, and super glued the paper on. it grips the darts nicely, but the paper slips to the side due to the revolver system.   but the real problem with the CS mod, is that the pusher has to be extended, and the return spring replaced with a stronger one.

[Cheefman45]

MavMaster, on 19 Jun 2016 - 8:08 PM, said:

thats really hard to do well, and you will have to mod the flywheels. i have attempted both, the CS mod failed, and the flywheels worked okay. i wrapped them in textured paper, and super glued the paper on. it grips the darts nicely, but the paper slips to the side due to the revolver system.   but the real problem with the CS mod, is that the pusher has to be extended, and the return spring replaced with a stronger one.

The thing with that is there is an easier way and the stockade with have a permanent mag not a removable, plus I forgot the channel and video title but I remember someone making a CS stockade and it was simple.

[Meaker VI]

Cheefman45, on 19 Jun 2016 - 8:13 PM, said:

The thing with that is there is an easier way and the stockade with have a permanent mag not a removable, plus I forgot the channel and video title but I remember someone making a CS stockade and it was simple.

 

Why are you taking a permanent-mag blaster and removing it's permanent mag, swapping it with one that is less reliable but is normally swappable, and not just leaving it be? To get slightly more capacity? Why not buy a blaster with the swappable mag in the first place?

[Cheefman45]

Meaker VI, on 20 Jun 2016 - 5:01 PM, said:

Why are you taking a permanent-mag blaster and removing it's permanent mag, swapping it with one that is less reliable but is normally swappable, and not just leaving it be? To get slightly more capacity? Why not buy a blaster with the swappable mag in the first place?

1.) I can't afford another blaster. If I could I would just buy a stryfe. But I did see a YouTube video on a barricade with swappable mag and I may do that to the stockade. Secondly the elite CS mags work fine for me and are very reliable for me aswell. I only own two mags in totaland can't afford to get any of those either aI am lucky to get some new darts soon. I also hate all those mags on me and do not own a rig and (as I have said before) can't afford one. Everyone gives me good ideas it's just if I could afford them. In My circumstance the best blasters that I can make and I'm efficient with can take a pretty good beating (dropping, water,and ripped darts ) and they still work with no problem. I have had great success with my internal mag blasters and will continue to do them until I can afford to make better blasters. Sure my blasters are ugly but I can use them well. Back to the topic is that internal clip blastershave a place here in my opinion. Sure you can reload really fast. But what happens when you out of darts in mags all of them. You then must hand load your darts into your mag then put it in. But when I am running low I can just pick up darts and shove in my blaster. The retaliator isn't my best internal magazine gun. But my stockade should be better. But that is why I like internal mag blasters.

[Meaker VI]

Cheefman45, on 20 Jun 2016 - 5:45 PM, said:

Back to the topic is that internal clip blastershave a place here in my opinion. Sure you can reload really fast. But what happens when you out of darts in mags all of them. You then must hand load your darts into your mag then put it in. But when I am running low I can just pick up darts and shove in my blaster. The retaliator isn't my best internal magazine gun. But my stockade should be better. But that is why I like internal mag blasters.

 

But here's my point: The Stockade, being turreted, is already an internal mag blaster. And being turreted, it's the most reliable type of internal-mag blaster. And unless you've got 18-round mags, it's actually pretty high capacity as-is. There's nothing wrong with scavenger loadouts and internal mags, but going to the trouble of converting a turret into a mag seems crazy to me. Especially since you say you have no money for new blasters - such a conversion seems like an unnecessary risk to a substantial part of your growing arsenal.

 

If you've got two clips, I'd take out the permanent clip lock in the retaliator, use the clipped-lip mag and the regular mag in it, and keep the stockade as a solid semi-auto secondary. Then focus your modding energy on improving the performance of both - rewire the stockade and drop in a better battery; add springs, pump-action, and a breech to the retaliator.

 

Also, yikes that stockade can get expensive. Not sure what the real value is, but Amazon is showing ~$100 right now. You might be able to sell it to finance buying something more in line with what you want to go for.

[Cheefman45]

I agree but the stockadeis underrated where I am there are better blasters but I do like your idea of leaving the turret in. As for the retaliator I feel that the internal mag should stay as mine was garbage without it the darts constantly jammed even new ones but with the clip mod they now don't jam even old darts. Now the stockade I will work on voltage mods. I suck at electrical mods can you refer me to any videos for stockade electric mods, and do you think that I should add a rev switch I learned how to make those out of old flashlights. Also which spring could a reflex or spectra spring be modded to fit inside a retaliator for a double spring.

Edited by Cheefman45, 20 June 2016 - 01:49 PM.

[Meaker VI]

Cheefman45, on 20 Jun 2016 - 6:48 PM, said:

I agree but the stockadeis underrated where I am there are better blasters but I do like your idea of leaving the turret in.

They may be, but yeah, leaving the turret in is *WAY* easier than swapping it to work with a clip. You'd be changing most of the blaster to make that work.
 

Cheefman45, on 20 Jun 2016 - 6:48 PM, said:

As for the retaliator I feel that the internal mag should stay as mine was garbage without it the darts constantly jammed even new ones but with the clip mod they now don't jam even old darts.

Sounds like a different problem, and I'm not sure what the solution is. I'd just remove the lock that keeps you from removing the mag; then not hit the switch to pull it.
 

Cheefman45, on 20 Jun 2016 - 6:48 PM, said:

Now the stockade I will work on voltage mods. I suck at electrical mods can you refer me to any videos for stockade electric mods, and do you think that I should add a rev switch I learned how to make those out of old flashlights.

Here's the best I could find quickly. It's for a stryfe, but that should be the jist of it.
 

Cheefman45, on 20 Jun 2016 - 6:48 PM, said:

Also which spring could a reflex or spectra spring be modded to fit inside a retaliator for a double spring.

I'm not sure what springs you're talking about. Most stock springs can be made to nest, just try the ones you have and see what happens. The retaliator is surprisingly well built and should take a higher force spring with less work than many other stock blasters.

[AnOoB]

this is a video of a clip fed stockade: 

but just read the desription of the video

[DjOnslaught]

My biggest issue with the stockade is the motors. It's much better to just stick the flywheels in a barricade cage and if you wanted you could even put said cage back in the stockade shell... then you'd have a 130 powered stockade instead of the lame paddle motors it has