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[xXhunter47Xx]

Kmart is the only place I believe that is currently selling the 10's.

The reason I'm doing a writeup is because new members will have no clue how to begin something like this.

Also, how long did if take to boil off the black plates? If left mine in boiling water for two minutes and they refuse to budge.

I haven't timed mine, but it was in there for awhile. They don't *pop* off, you kind of have to push it out with something.

[Duke Wintermaul]

If anybody is interested, I chronographed my AM6.

Six shots, 120.2, 113.0, 103.5, 133.9, 112.6, and 113.5 bringing the average to 116.1 fps.

Edited by Duke Wintermaul, 03 September 2013 - 05:21 PM.

[DartSlinger]

Where did you buy your AirMax10? I haven't been able to find it anywhere.

Kmart is the only place I believe that is currently selling the 10's.

I have seen the Air Max 10 at one Wal-Mart in my area, so Kmart is not the only place that sells them. They are pretty rare though, stores seem to mostly sell the Air Max 6.

[ShaNayNay]

I haven't timed mine, but it was in there for awhile. They don't *pop* off, you kind of have to push it out with something.

My turret warped and melted before the adhesive had a chance to weaken. I ended up taking a hammer to the plates, which wasn't very smart. In hindsight, it would be MUCH easier to just remove the AR's from the front, since we are already removing the barrels in the first place.

So rather than boil the turret, just pluck out the AR's after sawing off the barrel assembly. Saves time and the black plates don't even have to be touched.


I can back up Duke's range claim however. Tank expanded, 8 pumps, this thing gets 100+ flat no problem with an 8" CPVC single barrel. My pump shaft nearly broke where it connects to the handle, so it is necessary to reinforce it as Duke pointed out.

Edited by ShaNayNay, 03 September 2013 - 08:59 PM.

[Duke Wintermaul]

I can back up Duke's range claim however. Tank expanded, 8 pumps, this thing gets 100+ flat no problem with an 8" CPVC single barrel. My pump shaft nearly broke where it connects to the handle, so it is necessary to reinforce it as Duke pointed out.

Contrary to popular belief, I'm not just making shit up.

[xXhunter47Xx]

My turret warped and melted before the adhesive had a chance to weaken. I ended up taking a hammer to the plates, which wasn't very smart. In hindsight, it would be MUCH easier to just remove the AR's from the front, since we are already removing the barrels in the first place.

So rather than boil the turret, just pluck out the AR's after sawing off the barrel assembly. Saves time and the black plates don't even have to be touched.


I can back up Duke's range claim however. Tank expanded, 8 pumps, this thing gets 100+ flat no problem with an 8" CPVC single barrel. My pump shaft nearly broke where it connects to the handle, so it is necessary to reinforce it as Duke pointed out.

Ouch, you must have had one that was really stuck on.

Also, I addressed the broken pump shaft.

[azrael]

I can back up Duke's range claim however. Tank expanded, 8 pumps, this thing gets 100+ flat no problem with an 8" CPVC single barrel. My pump shaft nearly broke where it connects to the handle, so it is necessary to reinforce it as Duke pointed out.

Contrary to popular belief, I'm not just making shit up.

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ShaNayNay's is tank expanded. It didn't sound like yours was.

ShaNayNay, what did you use for your tank expansion? Rough estimate of air volume?


FWIW, I think stock elites have terrible flight dynamics. The tip is so light that at higher FPS, they do not have stable flight at all. They swerve, for sure.

[Mully]

On the whole subject of airmax 6's, I was at Walmart yesterday for some epoxy putty, and I went to check out the blaster section like I usually do, and I saw a few airmax 6's in a new color scheme and package. It was greenish instead of gray, and the box advertised 60' instead of 40' if my memory is correct.
@ Duke, I think you have one of those.

Edited by Mully, 04 September 2013 - 04:14 PM.

[azrael]

One thing I have to say is that I actually really like the darts that come with this blaster haha. The black foam is great. Buzz Bee needs to release a 100 pack of these EXTREME darts, I would buy that.

[Asamere]

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ShaNayNay's is tank expanded. It didn't sound like yours was.

ShaNayNay, what did you use for your tank expansion? Rough estimate of air volume?


FWIW, I think stock elites have terrible flight dynamics. The tip is so light that at higher FPS, they do not have stable flight at all. They swerve, for sure.

One thing I have to say is that I actually really like the darts that come with this blaster haha. The black foam is great. Buzz Bee needs to release a 100 pack of these EXTREME darts, I would buy that.

I'm not ShaNayNay, but I've tank expanded mine, bout double the tank right above, with a very wide connection tube with no leaks (Yay use of ugly epoxy!). Plugged pump fills at around 10-13 pumps... With turret I'm clearing the 100 mark with whatever I put into it. Accurately too might I add. I'm using 11 inch Master tube barrels. (Waiting on Paypal to accept money so I can buy a few things, like a barrel spacer to bump the accuracy with barrels being better aligned.) The seal isnt the best, but it definatly was easy to do, and these tanks got some thick walls... About as thick maby a few mm off of the regular PVC I used.

Out of these things both stock and modded, they seem to perform above average, I'll back the claim of 100 foot ranges with turret with these using Elite Darts. (Though I'm still a nobody)

As for the darts... I agree, They have taken some rough treatment and seem very nice... If possible I wouldn't mind just the foam(no middle) to make steffans out of. But yea, 100 dart bag/box/whatever would be an immediate buy from me as well.

On the whole subject of airmax 6's, I was at Walmart yesterday for some epoxy putty, and I went to check out the blaster section like I usually do, and I saw a few airmax 6's in a new color scheme and package. It was greenish instead of gray, and the box advertised 60' instead of 40' if my memory is correct.
@ Duke, I think you have one of those.

I got one of the grey ones and the box claimed 60 feet. Though I probably wouldn't mind a green one of these....

Edited by Asamere, 04 September 2013 - 08:11 PM.

[Duke Wintermaul]

FWIW, I think stock elites have terrible flight dynamics. The tip is so light that at higher FPS, they do not have stable flight at all. They swerve, for sure.

Stock elites have amazing flight dynamics. Agreed that at high velocities they are wildly inaccurate, but at lower speeds they outperform any NiC stefan I've ever used. That is the true measure of flight dynamics. Any weighted peice of foam we slap together will fly strait and true when we back them with incredible velocities, but the stock elite dart was engineered to perform wonderfully at lower speeds and coax as much range out of lower powered blasters as possible.

On the whole subject of airmax 6's, I was at Walmart yesterday for some epoxy putty, and I went to check out the blaster section like I usually do, and I saw a few airmax 6's in a new color scheme and package. It was greenish instead of gray, and the box advertised 60' instead of 40' if my memory is correct.
@ Duke, I think you have one of those.

I do indeed, Wal-Mart's BuzzBee line is all coloured differently. As you said, they are all grayish/green. This includes the rangemaster and panther relaunch. Also, their double barrels are blue. I believe these to be a simple reshell, and the internals are identical to their white brothers. I own two AM6's, one white from target and the other green/Gray from Wal-Mart. As far as I can tell, opening them, modding them, and chronographing them, they are identical.

Edited by Duke Wintermaul, 05 September 2013 - 09:49 AM.

[azrael]

Stock elites have amazing flight dynamics. Agreed that at high velocities they are wildly inaccurate, but at lower speeds they outperform any NiC stefan I've ever used. That is the true measure of flight dynamics. Any weighted peice of foam we slap together will fly strait and true when we back them with incredible velocities, but the stock elite dart was engineered to perform wonderfully at lower speeds and coax as much range out of lower powered blasters as possible.

But any decently powered air blaster will have higher FPS than Elite blasters.
The Elite dart works well because most of the weight is in the front, and it's a good amount of weight for lower power blasters. If you use a stefan with more weight in the tip, of course it will not perform as well in a lower power blaster, the blaster needs to put more energy behind the dart to make it fly further. Heavier tip means it needs more kinetic energy to move the same distance.

But even at 5-7kg spring loads in Elite Blasters, Elites are pretty inaccurate, IMO.

[Asamere]

But any decently powered air blaster will have higher FPS than Elite blasters.
The Elite dart works well because most of the weight is in the front, and it's a good amount of weight for lower power blasters. If you use a stefan with more weight in the tip, of course it will not perform as well in a lower power blaster, the blaster needs to put more energy behind the dart to make it fly further. Heavier tip means it needs more kinetic energy to move the same distance.

But even at 5-7kg spring loads in Elite Blasters, Elites are pretty inaccurate, IMO.

Not sure what it is about the blaster that is giving the ranges and accuracy for both elite darts and stefans. Remember the port of this thing is much smaller, resulting in a longer release time. Perhaps this could be the explanation to why both darts are performing well. Regardless When firing elite darts they seem to keep trajectory well with these. (This may be due to longer barrels in my case)

I'm very tempted to grab another one of these and try shorter front loading barrels, but For general purposes I don't feel tank expansion is truly a must on these blasters. I think any tank expansion is fairly much just a way to add longevity to the tank, unless you replace the pump with a bike pump.

I definitely say both stock and modded, these are just wonderful. Simple and easy to mod, and it will give you results. (I am a little biased though as this is slowly becoming my favorite blaster model currently)