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[burning-ice]

Hey NerfHaven, I'm back and lurking! Anyway, has anyone here ever used reddit for Nerf? I started doing it about five days ago, and thought we need more people on there. Anybody use it? (Move to wherever as I was unsure.)

[therealnerfjunkies]

Let me give it to you straight. No.

[Samurai kidd]

It's pretty easy to tell that most of the active nerfers here are /b/tards, or were at some point.
I plug videos to r/nerf sometimes, and the pictures are okay, but there's really no point to going there. Gears made a post on there a while ago and basically the redditors told him that they were scared of stuff like noob shaming(tribunal council) and called NIC nerfers elitists.

We need people here, not there.

[Daniel Beaver]

Reddit is not unlike Heroin. Those first few hits are so awesome.

I always warn people away from Reddit. There is certainly a lot of interesting content on there, but you have to swim through a sea of mediocrity to find it. The upvote/downvote mechanic works to promote content which appeals to the lowest common denominator, rather than truly "good" content. The only place on Reddit you can find good content is in small (<50,000 subscribers) subreddits, or heavily moderated subreddits like /r/AskHistorians/.

Edited by Daniel Beaver, 18 February 2013 - 12:33 PM.

[Samurai kidd]

'Daniel Beaver', on 18 Feb 2013 - 5:26 PM, said:

The only place on Reddit you can find good content is in small (<50,000 subscribers) subreddits, or heavily moderated subreddits like /r/AskHistorians/.

Cancer and general retardation sneaks in those pretty often as well. The only subreddits I actually use have <5000 subscribers, but even then 12 year olds come along every now and then and try to ruin everything.

[chavez guy]

I love /r/AskHistorians!

On topic though, most of the (good) stuff you would find on /r/nerf exists here in the mod/pj thread or wars forum. As much as I love Reddit, that particular subreddit isn't really anything special.

[ShaNayNay]

'chavez_guy', on 18 Feb 2013 - 7:02 PM, said:

On topic though, most of the (good) stuff you would find on /r/nerf exists here in the mod/pj thread or wars forum. As much as I love Reddit, that particular subreddit isn't really anything special.

I agree with Chavez guy. It mainly consists of mediocre paintjobs, silly questions, and reposts of mods/pj's already existing here. However, every once in a while I do see a mod or PJ pop up that both hasn't been posted here and is pretty unique and well done.

Edited by ShaNayNay, 18 February 2013 - 02:25 PM.

[burning-ice]

'Daniel Beaver', on 18 Feb 2013 - 5:26 PM, said:

Reddit is not unlike Heroin. Those first few hits are so awesome.

I always warn people away from Reddit. There is certainly a lot of interesting content on there, but you have to swim through a sea of mediocrity to find it. The upvote/downvote mechanic works to promote content which appeals to the lowest common denominator, rather than truly "good" content. The only place on Reddit you can find good content is in small (<50,000 subscribers) subreddits, or heavily moderated subreddits like /r/AskHistorians/.

'Tis true, NH needs to develop some fort of way to better filter results based on "good or bad" responses.

[chavez guy]

'burning-ice', on 18 Feb 2013 - 7:32 PM, said:

'Tis true, NH needs to develop some fort of way to better filter results based on "good or bad" responses.

I think that is the complete opposite of what he is saying. Beaver is arguing that the upvote/downvote system is actually detrimental to finding good content.
Plus, the system we have here is perfectly fine in my opinion. If it follows the rules and shares new information, then the mods and admins leave it alone. If it doesn't, it gets locked. Seems fine to me.

[burning-ice]

'chavez_guy', on 18 Feb 2013 - 9:09 PM, said:

I think that is the complete opposite of what he is saying. Beaver is arguing that the upvote/downvote system is actually detrimental to finding good content.
Plus, the system we have here is perfectly fine in my opinion. If it follows the rules and shares new information, then the mods and admins leave it alone. If it doesn't, it gets locked. Seems fine to me.

Err, yes, it is. I misinterpreted what he said, but I do think that Reddit has power. It's just at the point where a 12 year old can say "MODDED NITEFINDER," and all it was is him going in with pliers and removing the peg.

[Daniel Beaver]

I should have made my point more clear:

An algorithmic sorting method like Reddit is good for bringing "good but shallow" content to the top. Because it's really quick and easy to upvote something, it means that content which is easily and quickly digestible has better survival characteristics than content which is in-depth. There's a reason funny cat pictures dominate the front page of reddit: it's very easy to look at it, chuckle, click upvote, and move on to the next article. In the time that it would take someone to read through a long, profound, fantastic article or post, the other guy could have upvoted 50 funny cat pictures. From an algorithmic point of view, this means that the dude upvoting funny cat pictures has 50 times the voting influence as the guy who is reading through that long article, and so the predictable thing happens: the shallow and entertaining content has much more buoyancy. These sorts of unbounded algorithmic sorting systems will always fall prey to this least common denominator effect.

My several years of Reddit addiction have reinforced my opinion that having small communities and human curators is ultimately a more effective solution for uncovering and presenting "good and in-depth" content. That's why I've always supported Nerfhaven's strong focus on encouraging quality content, and why we are harsh to new members who are not putting effort and intelligence into their contributions.

[burning-ice]

'Daniel Beaver', on 18 Feb 2013 - 10:00 PM, said:

I should have made my point more clear:

An algorithmic sorting method like Reddit is good for bringing "good but shallow" content to the top. Because it's really quick and easy to upvote something, it means that content which is easily and quickly digestible has better survival characteristics than content which is in-depth. There's a reason funny cat pictures dominate the front page of reddit: it's very easy to look at it, chuckle, click upvote, and move on to the next article. In the time that it would take someone to read through a long, profound, fantastic article or post, the other guy could have upvoted 50 funny cat pictures. From an algorithmic point of view, this means that the dude upvoting funny cat pictures has 50 times the voting influence as the guy who is reading through that long article, and so the predictable thing happens: the shallow and entertaining content has much more buoyancy. These sorts of unbounded algorithmic sorting systems will always fall prey to this least common denominator effect.

My several years of Reddit addiction have reinforced my opinion that having small communities and human curators is ultimately a more effective solution for uncovering and presenting "good and in-depth" content. That's why I've always supported Nerfhaven's strong focus on encouraging quality content, and why we are harsh to new members who are not putting effort and intelligence into their contributions.

Ah, I see now. Thanks for clearing this up.

[Ice Nine]

'burning-ice', on 18 Feb 2013 - 04:20 AM, said:

Hey NerfHaven, I'm back and lurking! Anyway, has anyone here ever used reddit for Nerf? I started doing it about five days ago, and thought we need more people on there. Anybody use it? (Move to wherever as I was unsure.)

And the Lord said, Thou shalt worship no false idols, and Thou should hold no other gods before me.


Corinthians Code Of Conduct, c. 2005

'Samurai_kidd', on 18 Feb 2013 - 3:23 PM, said:

It's pretty easy to tell that most of the active nerfers here are /b/tards, or were at some point.

I wish we had voted to get rid of you. Before this topic, I thought I couldn't hate anything more than Reddit, but it turns out discussions of Reddit on my Nerf forum are worse. Also, you are worse.