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[ZoMbIe HuNtEr]

Hello Everyone,
A while back there was a nerf haven user that had an idea and vision for an all stainless steel longshot bolt sled. I am here to tell you that this idea has become a product and is doing everything the user said it would do. Here is my official review.




Here it is guys, the very first, hand welded, American made, Stainless Steel Longshot boltsled. I can’t say enough about this product I really can’t. The craftsmanship of this custom made part is unlike anything I have ever seen. Its durability is unmatched, and should something go wrong, it has a life time warranty!

Remedy Metal is a up and coming mod company. Their entire basis will be Stainless steel, not plastic, like Orange Mod Works. Everything that comes out of their shop will be hand made so when you buy this product, you aren’t only supporting the company, but also the artist and his/her work.

The company guarantees that you are able to one hand prime this no matter what spring power you contain in your longshot. That is something no other company has been able to do, not even Xplorer.

For the price of 69.99, this bolt sled is WORTH IT!!!!! Sure you may need to hold off on buying anything else for a while, but with an over powered longshot you don’t really need anything else . Keep in mind however, due to the nature of the boltsled, the power you put into the blaster will start to put stress on the other plastic parts so mod at your own risk as always.

The company sends this information and specific contact information with the product in case you need to contact them. This includes phone number and email which is very classy and shows that they will do their best to NEVER leave a customer hanging.

That concludes the review of the Stainless Steel boltsled from Remedy Metal. I highly recommend it! Also be sure to keep up with Remedy Metal, they are taking one step at a time but their goal is to manufacture an entire Stainless Steel Longshot kit. Thanks again Remedy Metal!

Edited by ZoMbIe_HuNtEr, 08 August 2012 - 04:03 PM.

[Jilliop]

That thing is beautiful, but...

Inb4 WAYYY TOO EXPENSIVE.

[ZoMbIe HuNtEr]

That thing is beautiful, but...

Inb4 WAYYY TOO EXPENSIVE.

Very true, however there will eventually be a stainless steel longshot kit. Right now they are just going one piece at a time.

[Daniel Beaver]

Given how overpriced Longshots are these days, I guess you might as well put an overpriced bolt sled in it. Or rather, over-produced.

Edited by Daniel Beaver, 08 August 2012 - 09:54 PM.

[chavez guy]

Does anyone else see the elite blasters making the longshot obsolete soon? They can be modded similarly to how a longshot can in a way that achieves the same ranges, without having to pay $70.

The reason I bring this up, is because if longshots go obsolete, so with longshot boltsleds. And while this is definitely a...shiny...product if nothing else, by the time these are produced enough to lower the cost, the longshot itself will probably be as obsolete as the slide breech is now.

Either way, that is one nice looking boltsled. It is a shame nobody can see it once it is inside the blaster.

[zx532]

Does anyone else see the elite blasters making the longshot obsolete soon? They can be modded similarly to how a longshot can in a way that achieves the same ranges, without having to pay $70.

Having owned/borrowed both, the Longshot is still better than the Elite Retaliator, other than the reliability issues (I cant speak for the Rampage, because I dont own one)

[Seprest]

Does anyone else see the elite blasters making the longshot obsolete soon? They can be modded similarly to how a longshot can in a way that achieves the same ranges, without having to pay $70.

The reason I bring this up, is because if longshots go obsolete, so with longshot boltsleds. And while this is definitely a...shiny...product if nothing else, by the time these are produced enough to lower the cost, the longshot itself will probably be as obsolete as the slide breech is now.

Either way, that is one nice looking boltsled. It is a shame nobody can see it once it is inside the blaster.

Hold the LS plunger tube up to an N-strike elite plunger tube - you will see why people are willing to get parts like this for them. Longshot has POTENTIAL.

[Briguy52]

On topic: Just to justify a $70 price, you also need to consider all the labor + materials going into this. You're not just paying for x ounces of stainless steel, but also covering the time and hardware invested into this product.

Off topic: About NSE vs. Longshots: Just look at the plunger volume. Whatever you do to your Retaliator, if you do the same to the LongShot, you will be rewarded with far more.

And if you value a blaster just by some form of a Performance/Cost ratio, that's cool by me, but there are so many other aspects that make a blaster valuable and worthy of being owned. For example, you could go out to the store and buy am awkward BBUMB and have fun making dents in walls or you could spend a lot more on a Crossbow, which may not perform as well for even the hefty price, but is "valuable" in other aspects, such as vintage (collector) value, comfort, aesthetics, sentimental value, etc.

On the other hand, I do understand that for $70 you could buy a lot of fun (or at least 1-2 Longshots).

Edited by Briguy52, 08 August 2012 - 10:27 PM.

[ZoMbIe HuNtEr]

On topic: Just to justify a $70 price, you also need to consider all the labor + materials going into this. You're not just paying for the metal, but also whatever hardware and designing time spent on this as well.

About NSE vs. Longshots: Just look at the plunger volume. Whatever you do to your Retaliator, if you do the same to the LongShot, you will be rewarded with far more.

And if you value a blaster just by some form of a Performance/Cost ratio, that's cool by me, but there are so many other aspects that make a blaster valuable and worthy of being owned. For example, you could go out to the store and buy am awkward BBUMB and have fun making dents in walls or you could spend a lot more on a Crossbow, which may not perform as well for even the hefty price, but is "valuable" in other aspects, such as vintage (collector) value, comfort, aesthetics, sentimental value, etc.

Yep, I was reminded of the longshot's power when I installed the new sled...the longshot plunger tube is still ridiculously massive.

[chavez guy]

Well apparently I stand corrected.

[exploe]

In comparison to the other options , Remedy Metals has a rather nice price.

[ZoMbIe HuNtEr]

In comparison to the other options , Remedy Metals has a rather nice price.

The plan for them eventually is to make a full stainless steel kit. Once that is put together, it really won't seem all that expensive.

Edited by ZoMbIe_HuNtEr, 09 August 2012 - 11:19 AM.

[BabyGandhi]

If I think it is too expensive, do I still have to buy it?

[Daniel Beaver]

If I think it is too expensive, do I still have to buy it?

Yes. Obviously. Just like how you're required to buy my $100 Pyragon.

[CaliforniaPants]

The plan for them eventually is to make a full stainless steel kit. Once that is put together, it really won't seem all that expensive.

It wont seem all that expensive? A full kit worth of just the metal would be at least as much as the gun itself, unless they're using some extremely low quality stainless.

[ZoMbIe HuNtEr]

It wont seem all that expensive? A full kit worth of just the metal would be at least as much as the gun itself, unless they're using some extremely low quality stainless.

What i mean is its not gonna be a 500 dollar kit like explorer

[Zorns Lemma]

That Joshua Brown/Remedy guy is welcome to come here and make a thread himself, perhaps even detailing the build better (I have some in-progress pictures myself).

Not sure why you're making this fake review puppet storefront for them.

[Seprest]

What i mean is its not gonna be a 500 dollar kit like explorer

Some competitors do run up bills in the $300 range for a full kit, with some non-metal parts even.

[ZoMbIe HuNtEr]

That Joshua Brown/Remedy guy is welcome to come here and make a thread himself, perhaps even detailing the build better (I have some in-progress pictures myself).

Not sure why you're making this fake review puppet storefront for them.

It is in no way fake and I am a little offended that you would accuse me of creating a fake review. He sent me a sled to review and I did a video and written review on it...but if that's not good enough, I can contact him and ask him to do whatever you want because you know, everyone would love to cater to your demands.

EDIT: I apologize for my unnecessary sarcasm and I just saw that you were a mod, however my review isn't fake. I am a promoter for Remedy Metal. I am just doing what he asked me.

Edited by ZoMbIe_HuNtEr, 09 August 2012 - 08:04 PM.

[Kanashimi]

I guess one issue I have with your written review is that you state almost no original information about it. Just about everything in it is either something you say the company claims, or advertisement sounding. You don't go into any specifics on how it performs, if it makes a difference, build quality, etc. You don't even post any original images that show that you have the thing. So in the end, I just get the feeling you are saying "Look at this cool thing I found online!".

And I also believe that a all metal longshot would be prohibitively expensive and heavy.

-Kanashimi

[ZoMbIe HuNtEr]

I guess one issue I have with your written review is that you state almost no original information about it. Just about everything in it is either something you say the company claims, or advertisement sounding. You don't go into any specifics on how it performs, if it makes a difference, build quality, etc. You don't even post any original images that show that you have the thing. So in the end, I just get the feeling you are saying "Look at this cool thing I found online!".

And I also believe that a all metal longshot would be prohibitively expensive and heavy.

-Kanashimi

I cover all that in my video review and I am working on publishing a firing test. I will try to embed the video review.

EDIT: Just skip that first part, I don't get to the sled until about a minute or 2 in. I would also like some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. If you have tips to make my reviews better, please let me know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC6juMG_o7I&feature=plcp

Edited by ZoMbIe_HuNtEr, 09 August 2012 - 08:37 PM.

[Zorns Lemma]

That Joshua Brown/Remedy guy is welcome to come here and make a thread himself, perhaps even detailing the build better (I have some in-progress pictures myself).

Not sure why you're making this fake review puppet storefront for them.

It is in no way fake and I am a little offended that you would accuse me of creating a fake review. He sent me a sled to review and I did a video and written review on it...but if that's not good enough, I can contact him and ask him to do whatever you want because you know, everyone would love to cater to your demands.

EDIT: I apologize for my unnecessary sarcasm and I just saw that you were a mod, however my review isn't fake. I am a promoter for Remedy Metal. I am just doing what he asked me.

That's the part I have a problem with. I called it a fake review because as Kanashimi pointed out, your original post is not a review at all. Look at SGNerf's reviews, or even autonerf's reviews of the OMW Kits. They provide useful information that let us judge the merits of the product, rather than being direct promotion. A review should identify advantages, disadvantages (of design, not price), rather than saying "buy this the money goes to help some dude!"

If you are essentially just posting a sales or advertising thread, then you might as well let the actual manufacturer make it in the trading forum, since he'll also be able to answer questions too.

Edit: The video isn't bad actually, but you should put some of what you say into words.

Edited by Zorn's Lemma, 09 August 2012 - 08:50 PM.

[ZoMbIe HuNtEr]

That's the part I have a problem with. I called it a fake review because as Kanashimi pointed out, your original post is not a review at all. Look at SGNerf's reviews, or even autonerf's reviews of the OMW Kits. They provide useful information that let us judge the merits of the product, rather than being direct promotion. A review should identify advantages, disadvantages (of design, not price), rather than saying "buy this the money goes to help some dude!"

If you are essentially just posting a sales or advertising thread, then you might as well let the actual manufacturer make it in the trading forum, since he'll also be able to answer questions too.

Edit: The video isn't bad actually, but you should put some of what you say into words.

That last part is the advice I needed. Thank you for the advice Zorn. I will be sure to work on that and try to develop that into my written reviews. I am still new to blogging and written reviews. Just started my own blog a couple days ago.

[DX-Robert]

Price should still be a factor in a review though. The problem I have with it is that you want people to shell out ~$80 for something that 99% of LS users are never going to need, without telling them the full story. The labor and craftsmanship may be worth the price on paper, but the value vs alternatives is awful. For that price they could commission an overhaul or homemade of something more useful. Longshots are fun, but there's better stuff out there, especially for the type of wars NH users tend to prefer. Even within the longshot's best gametypes...what a waste of money spending over $100 to pimp one out when campus HvZ can be won with a pair of 8 dollar nitefinders. It provides more of a challenge too, when you can't just spit out darts and have to use speed and strategy.

NH isn't really for advertising "Nerf businesses" either...doesn't the commercialization of this hobby ever bother you at all? It's already expensive enough pumping out darts and driving up and down the eastern seaboard for wars. Selling off my entire arsenal probably wouldn't match the cost of a full kit in metal. One of the things I've noticed in the past couple years is that the NIC has become more and more expensive. This used to be a much cheaper hobby when you could run around with 100 darts and primaries below $30. The businesses really bother me...it's one thing to be selling 3 dollar wyes...but look at what these places are charging for parts and kits...those prices are absurd. All this for fun...

And you said you got the boltsled provided for the review? Did you have to actually pay the 80 bucks to have that thing sent to you? A review where the subject was free and has no downsides is a red flag. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is, and for that amount of money, you'd better be 100% on top of your game before some poor kids throw away good money for something they aren't likely to need the power of.

[ZoMbIe HuNtEr]

Price should still be a factor in a review though. The problem I have with it is that you want people to shell out ~$80 for something that 99% of LS users are never going to need, without telling them the full story. The labor and craftsmanship may be worth the price on paper, but the value vs alternatives is awful. For that price they could commission an overhaul or homemade of something more useful. Longshots are fun, but there's better stuff out there, especially for the type of wars NH users tend to prefer. Even within the longshot's best gametypes...what a waste of money spending over $100 to pimp one out when campus HvZ can be won with a pair of 8 dollar nitefinders. It provides more of a challenge too, when you can't just spit out darts and have to use speed and strategy.

NH isn't really for advertising "Nerf businesses" either...doesn't the commercialization of this hobby ever bother you at all? It's already expensive enough pumping out darts and driving up and down the eastern seaboard for wars. Selling off my entire arsenal probably wouldn't match the cost of a full kit in metal. One of the things I've noticed in the past couple years is that the NIC has become more and more expensive. This used to be a much cheaper hobby when you could run around with 100 darts and primaries below $30. The businesses really bother me...it's one thing to be selling 3 dollar wyes...but look at what these places are charging for parts and kits...those prices are absurd. All this for fun...

And you said you got the boltsled provided for the review? Did you have to actually pay the 80 bucks to have that thing sent to you? A review where the subject was free and has no downsides is a red flag. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is, and for that amount of money, you'd better be 100% on top of your game before some poor kids throw away good money for something they aren't likely to need the power of.

Everything you have said makes sense, so from now on I will make these reviews strictly technical and just try to stay as unbiased as possible. Thank you for bringing all of this to my attention as you are making me a better reviewer and blogger. Also if the mods agree with DX and feel that I am advertising, I would completely understand if you were to shut down the thread and add advertising to the CoC. I simply did my research before making the thread and thought i was in my boundaries. However I see where I have over looked some very small but important details, I just wanted to get Remedy Metal out in the open.

Edited by ZoMbIe_HuNtEr, 10 August 2012 - 12:37 AM.