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[badger]

The results are in. We know who the winenrs are. Sorry for the wait.

First off, let me post the scores for the NH entrants. We had a couple of last minute judge changes on account that HeretiCorp (NHQ) and NerfDude1138 (FU) seem to have dropped off the face of the planet. Blacksunshine (NHQ) and Duckslayer (FU) have taken their place and have been a great help.

Scores will be listed in this order and format:

Entrant's Name
Judges Name, Function, Cleanliness, Mod. Difficulty, Writeup Quality, Creativity, Score Total (FN#, CL#, MD#, WQ#, CR#, TOTAL#)
Average Score

If you have any questions about your final scores, post them here.

b00m13
Groove (FN 7, CL 8, MD 4, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 33)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 7, MD 5, WQ 7, CR 7, TOTAL 33)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 8, MD 10, WQ 7, CR 3, TOTAL 35)
Average Score = 33.67

PointBlank
Groove (FN 6, CL 8, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 8, TOTAL 35)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 8, MD 6, WQ 9, CR 8, TOTAL 38)
Forsaken (FN 4, CL 8, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 9, TOTAL 38)
Average Score = 37.00

lianbria
Groove (FN 5, CL 4, MD 7, WQ 6, CR 2, TOTAL 24)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 5, MD 7, WQ 6, CR 2, TOTAL 24)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 33)
Average Score = 27.00

Pie_lover123
Groove (FN 2, CL 3, MD 6, WQ 4, CR 2, TOTAL 17)
Captain Slug (FN 2, CL 3, MD 8, WQ 4, CR 5, TOTAL 22)
Forsaken (FN 5, CL 8, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 6, TOTAL 36)
Average Score = 25.00

Lone_Wolf14
Groove (FN 7, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 9, CR 9, TOTAL 38)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 9, CR 8, TOTAL 36)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 7, TOTAL 34)
Average Score = 36.00

xtremejumpy
Groove (FN 4, CL 2, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 5, TOTAL 26)
Captain Slug (FN 3, CL 3, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 5, TOTAL 25)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 4, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 7, TOTAL 31)
Average Score = 27.33

Liam
Groove (FN 8, CL 5, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 5, TOTAL 33)
Captain Slug (FN 8, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 4, TOTAL 32)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 7, MD 9, WQ 9, CR 2, TOTAL 34)
Average Score = 33.00

NerfRogue83
Groove (FN 4, CL 5, MD 4, WQ 5, CR 4, TOTAL 22)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 6, MD 3, WQ 5, CR 4, TOTAL 23)
Forsaken (FN 9, CL 8, MD 6, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 37)
Average Score = 27.33

A Side of Nerf
Groove (FN 8, CL 7, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 9, TOTAL 39)
Captain Slug (FN 8, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 35)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 7, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 9, TOTAL 40)
Average Score = 38.00

Gym
Groove (FN 5, CL 8, MD 1, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 31)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 8, MD 2, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 32)
Forsaken (FN 1, CL 9, MD 4, WQ 9, CR 6, TOTAL 29)
Average Score = 30.67

madmax
Groove (FN 8, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 5, CR 4, TOTAL 29)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 6, CR 6, TOTAL 31)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 7, MD 8, WQ 8, CR 5, TOTAL 36)
Average Score = 32.00

Elwood
Groove (FN 2, CL 1, MD 7, WQ 9, CR 2, TOTAL 21)
Captain Slug (FN 4, CL 3, MD 7, WQ 4, CR 3, TOTAL 21)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 2, MD 6, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 30)
Average Score = 24.00

Mehku
Groove (FN 7, CL 5, MD 4, WQ 8, CR 1, TOTAL 25)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 5, MD 7, WQ 6, CR 2, TOTAL 26)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 8, MD 9, WQ 8, CR 1, TOTAL 33)
Average Score = 28.00

SonReeceSonJensen
Groove (FN 4, CL 2, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 9, TOTAL 28)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 9, TOTAL 33)
Forsaken (FN 3, CL 2, MD 5, WQ 8, CR 8, TOTAL 26)
Average Score = 29.00

white moonlight
Groove (FN 7, CL 5, MD 7, WQ 6, CR 4, TOTAL 29)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 4, TOTAL 30)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 6, CR 6, TOTAL 31)
Average Score = 30.00

wasdf
Groove (FN 1, CL 2, MD 5, WQ 4, CR 2, TOTAL 14)
Captain Slug (FN 3, CL 3, MD 6, WQ 4, CR 2, TOTAL 18)
Forsaken (FN 1, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 3, TOTAL 25)
Average Score = 19.00

TantumBull
Groove (FN 7, CL 8, MD 3, WQ 10, CR 7, TOTAL 35)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 7, MD 4, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 31)
Forsaken (FN 9, CL 9, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 7, TOTAL 40)
Average Score = 35.33

dizzyduck
Groove (FN 8, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 10, CR 4, TOTAL 35)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 9, CR 4, TOTAL 32)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 10, CR 6, TOTAL 40)
Average Score = 35.67

SPV999
Groove (FN 4, CL 2, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 9, TOTAL 28)
Captain Slug (FN 3, CL 3, MD 5, WQ 7, CR 9, TOTAL 27)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 9, MD 4, WQ 8, CR 8, TOTAL 36)
Average Score = 30.33

koree
Groove (FN 7, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 8, CR 10, TOTAL 42)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 38)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 7, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 2, TOTAL 31)
Average Score = 37.00

nerfer63
Groove (FN 5, CL 3, MD 4, WQ 4, CR 7, TOTAL 23)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 2, MD 5, WQ 6, CR 5, TOTAL 23)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 3, TOTAL 30)
Average Score = 25.33

sublimedom777
Groove (FN 6, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 7, TOTAL 32)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 30)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 5, CR 6, TOTAL 31)
Average Score = 31.00

louiec3
Groove (FN 4, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 4, CR 3, TOTAL 22)
Captain Slug (FN 4, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 5, CR 5, TOTAL 25)
Forsaken (FN 4, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 8, TOTAL 32)
Average Score = 26.33

venom213
Groove (FN 9, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 37)
Captain Slug (FN 9, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 37)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 9, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 38)
Average Score = 37.33

Zack the Mack
Groove (FN 5, CL 5, MD 4, WQ 6, CR 2, TOTAL 22)
Captain Slug (FN 4, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 5 CR 2, TOTAL 22)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 33)
Average Score = 25.67

Fome
Groove (FN 6, CL 6, MD 5, WQ 9, CR 10, TOTAL 36)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 9, CR 10, TOTAL 37)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 9, MD 4, WQ 8, CR 7, TOTAL 34)
Average Score = 35.67

dim3
Groove (FN 2, CL 6, MD 4, WQ 7, CR 3, TOTAL 22)
Captain Slug (FN 3, CL 6, MD 5, WQ 8, CR 3, TOTAL 25)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 9, TOTAL 41)
Average Score = 29.33

Dayko
Groove (FN 6, CL 3, MD 5, WQ 9, CR 4, TOTAL 27)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 5, MD 5, WQ 9, CR 6, TOTAL 30)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 8, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 7, TOTAL 38)
Average Score = 31.67

Assassin NF
Groove (FN 5, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 30)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 8, CR 5, TOTAL 29)
Forsaken (FN 9, CL 7, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 8, TOTAL 41)
Average Score = 33.33

Darken
Groove (FN 7, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 32)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 5, TOTAL 34)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 7, MD 9, WQ 8, CR 4, TOTAL 35)
Average Score = 33.67

Blue
Groove (FN 5, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 10, TOTAL 36)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 5, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 32)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 4, TOTAL 31)
Average Score = 33.00

Dart Attack
Groove (FN 7, CL 7, MD 3, WQ 10, CR 9, TOTAL 36)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 7, MD 3, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 34)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 9, MD 6, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 39)
Average Score = 36.33

Split
Groove (FN 4, CL 8, MD 1, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 30)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 8, MD 1, WQ 9, CR 9, TOTAL 32)
Forsaken (FN 5, CL 10, MD 9, WQ 9, CR 8, TOTAL 41)
Average Score = 34.33

Mr Badwrench
Groove (FN 7, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 4, TOTAL 31)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 5, TOTAL 33)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 8, MD 8, WQ 5, CR 6, TOTAL 35)
Average Score = 33.00

slowguitarman
Groove (FN 6, CL 2, MD 4, WQ 8, CR 7, TOTAL 27)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 3, MD 4, WQ 8, CR 8, TOTAL 30)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 4, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 36)
Average Score = 31.00

Soothsayer
Groove (FN 7, CL 5, MD 5, WQ 6, CR 2, TOTAL 25)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 5, MD 5, WQ 6, CR 2, TOTAL 25)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 8, CR 2, TOTAL 35)
Average Score = 28.33

wing'd man
Groove (FN 5, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 6, CR 3, TOTAL 25)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 6, CR 4, TOTAL 26)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 5, CR 6, TOTAL 31)
Average Score = 27.33

CoasterDynamix757
Groove (FN 8, CL 8, MD 6, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 36)
Captain Slug (FN 8, CL 8, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 35)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 8, MD 8, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 36)
Average Score = 35.67

THIRST
Groove (FN 8, CL 3, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 7, TOTAL 32)
Captain Slug (FN 8, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 33)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 39)
Average Score = 34.67

The winner for NH is A Side of Nerf.

And now for Round Two....and the problem we had. The rules for scoring on Round Two were simple. The entrant's original score would be thrown out and a new score would be created by the 6 judges that didn't evaluate it. For example, A Side of Nerf's mod would be evaluated by the judges from NHQ and FU, making a totally new score.

The reason for the long delay in getting the results out was that we had a tie for First Place. To solve this problem, we asked for another jduge from the forum that didn't have an entrant tied for First Place to give us his scores to break the tie.

And now for the final scores in a similar format to what was used above.

A Side of Nerf - NH WINNER
NHQ Judges
Badger (FN 9, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 3, TOTAL 36)
Bpso86 (FN 7, CL 7, MD 5, WQ 9, CR 4, TOTAL 32)
Blacksunshine (FN 7, CL 5, MD 7, WQ 9, CR 5, TOTAL 33)
FU Judges
Jwasko (FN 9, CL 9, MD 9, WQ 10, CR 9, TOTAL 46)
Duckslayer (FN 8, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 7, TOTAL 38)
Trag (FN 9, CL 8, MD 6, WQ 9, CR 6 TOTAL 38)
Average Score = 37.17

imaseoulman - NHQ WINNER
NH Judges
Groove (FN 5, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 9, CR 6, TOTAL 32)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 7, MD 5, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 32)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 8, TOTAL 42)
FU Judges
Jwasko (FN 10, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 8, TOTAL 44)
Duckslayer (FN 8, CL 5, MD 8, WQ 10, CR 10, TOTAL 41)
Trag (FN 8, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 6, CR 8 TOTAL 36)
Average Score = 37.83

atomatron - FU WINNER
NH Judges
Groove (FN 8, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 36)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 4, TOTAL 31)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 7, TOTAL 41)
NHQ Judges
Badger (FN 8, CL 8, MD 9, WQ 6, CR 8, TOTAL 39)
Bpso86 (FN 9, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 8, CR 7, TOTAL 35)
Blacksunshine (FN 10, CL 9, MD 9, WQ 10, CR 7 TOTAL 45)
Average Score = 37.83

This puts imaseoulman and atomatron tied for First Place.

Final scores:

imaseoulman - NHQ WINNER
VACC from NH (FN 5, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 5, TOTAL 29)

atomatron - FU WINNER
VACC from NH (FN 8, CL9, MD 5, WQ 5 CR 3, TOTAL 30)

FINAL RESULTS
3RD PLACE - A Side of Nerf from NH
2ND PLACE - imaseoulman from NHQ
1ST PLACE - atomatron from FU

Congratulations to all the winners!!! Keep a lookout next year for the return of the Mother of All Modification Contests with possibly some new judges, improved judging criteria and new entry rules. I thank everyone who participated in the competition for working with the judges. There were a few issues with the rules that we hope to rectify before next year.

All winners will be contacted.

Finally, a piece of advice that everyone should heed and take to heart. To increase your chances of winning for next year, maybe you should enter on a different forum besides Haven. NH had a total of 39 entries, NHQ had 10, and FU had only 7. Many of the users that entered here at NH have an account at the other forums as well. You do realize that your chances of winning would have been greater if you had entered on either NHQ or FU? You had only about a 2.5% chance of winning on NH, yet you had a 10% chance at NHQ and about a 15.6% chance of getting into the finals if you had entered at FU.

It is also nicer to the judges at NH not to overwhelm them.

Edited by badger, 23 August 2009 - 10:26 PM.

[A side of nerf]

Woah.

[Split]

Both me and others are wondering how I got 1s for mod difficulty from Slug and Groove.
Drop in 5 valves, pointing this direction. Done. Obviously FA disagreed with this, since he gave a 9.

Either way, thanks for running this badger, and to the judges for doing all they did, and slug making that raep1500. I think it made the community a lot more active at some points. I know it was the center of conversation for a while at least.

[Fome]

Awesome, can't wait for the next one. (hopefully there will be)

Is there an image of the 1st place prize floating around somewhere? Would love to see it.

Maybe Split, because you have to actually extrude your brain from your body, wrap it around your writeup, and externally digest it to figure out how the whole thing works.

Congrats to the winners.

[wasdf]

Congrats to all of the winners. I can say that I am the Effeminate failure of the contest with the lowest score of 19.

[atomatron]

^ You'll improve.

I hold to the conviction that I just got lucky.

[sublimedom777]

Congrats Side, and thank you to all the judges.

[bpso86]

Both me and others are wondering how I got 1s for mod difficulty from Slug and Groove.
Drop in 5 valves, pointing this direction. Done. Obviously FA disagreed with this, since he gave a 9.

Either way, thanks for running this badger, and to the judges for doing all they did, and slug making that raep1500. I think it made the community a lot more active at some points. I know it was the center of conversation for a while at least.

I'm fairly certain that there was a mixup with that criteria among the judges. For example, some could take the "mod difficulty" on a scale from 1-10 with 1 being easiest, while others could see a 1 as being the most difficult. I'm fairly certain that's why the scores are so much different.

[Daniel Beaver]

Very cool. Thanks for running this badger -- I really liked the mods that came out of this. Congrads on the win, atomatron -- your 3B is sick.

So... when's the next contest?

[Poseidon]

Could anyone give the links to the first and second place entries for all of us who don't have FU/NHQ accounts?

Congrats to all of the entrants and especially ASON. Nice work guys. Maybe next year I'll get off my ass and give it a shot.

[badger]

Could anyone give the links to the first and second place entries for all of us who don't have FU/NHQ accounts?

Congrats to all of the entrants and especially ASON. Nice work guys. Maybe next year I'll get off my ass and give it a shot.

imaseoulman's entry at NHQ

atomatron's entry at FU

Here you go.

[CA13]

Everyone who was wondering what the winning mod was, here is the link.
Deserved it.

Shit, badger. Two minutes ahead of me. (An hour counting time zones)

Edited by CA13, 23 August 2009 - 08:20 PM.

[BustaNinja]

Actually, if you wanna be technical, Liam won. Look really really closely at his final score. Im pretty sure 3300 would win anything.

Hey, Paul, AWESOME on winning this thing.

[Daniel Beaver]

The pictures of atomatron's Violet lightning at FU don't really do it justice. It really is quite breathtaking. Paul, it might be worth doing a proper photo shoot of that thing so that the rest of the internet can wank off over admire it

Edited by Daniel Beaver, 23 August 2009 - 10:10 PM.

[atomatron]

The pictures of atomatron's Violet lightning at FU don't really do it justice. It really is quite breathtaking. Paul, it might be worth doing a proper photo shoot of that thing so that the rest of the internet can wank off over admire it

I'll try to get that done tomorrow, I have to watch over my brother who recently got out of the hospital (lacerated kidney, long story) so it might be as late as Wednesday.

[TantumBull]

Congrats on winning, atomatron, and thanks to everyone who was involved with putting this together and executing it. It was really a lot of fun.

A suggestion for next years contest: Maybe like a sentence of feedback per judge on each entry. However, I'm aware of the problems that arise from this, as the idea has been brought up before. I know you guys said it may discourage people from entering again and I know it would be more work for the judges. Just something to maybe consider, but not entirely necessary.

[CaptainSlug]

Contest prize I'm very late in finishing and atomatron has been very patiently waiting for. He will be adding his own barrels.

A suggestion for next years contest: Maybe like a sentence of feedback per judge on each entry.

That's a pretty terrible idea. Not just because I was a judge and I happen to hate writing.

Edited by CaptainSlug, 25 September 2009 - 04:37 PM.

[Fome]

That's a pretty terrible idea. Not just because I was a judge and I happen to hate writing.

No it's not. Many contests use this feedback method as an invaluable case-by-case learning tool to not only lend some insight into what the judges are thinking but, more importantly, what components of a submission are useful or not.

eg. AGA Aquascaping Contest

edit: and yes, I do realize that you were probably being somewhat facetious.

Edited by Fome, 26 September 2009 - 05:27 AM.

[wingd man]

Definitely, It would also encourage people to enter again because they know what they did wrong, and why the winning contest submission won over somebody else's.

[Liam]

Actually, if you wanna be technical, Liam won. Look really really closely at his final score. Im pretty sure 3300 would win anything.

Hey, Paul, AWESOME on winning this thing.

Haha, I missed that typo the first time I read this thread. Oh well.

Edited by Liam, 26 September 2009 - 11:50 AM.

[imaseoulman]

Actually, the idea does not have to be tied to any contest. Someone could come up with a format for supplying feedback to a mod, so that anyone can be "judge" at any time, and then when people post writeups, anyone who chooses to, could give their opinion in a "standardized" form.

Oh, you mean sorta like a... forum? Yeah, we could call it a Haven. A NerfHaven to be precise. Yeah, I know it's not "standardized" but just post what you think in somebody's mod page, that's kinda why we have a modification forum and not just a list of mods, so that we can learn together and offer criticism. I REALLY don't think we need to start modifying with contests in mind, but with having fun while NERFing in mind.