#1
Posted 27 March 2008 - 02:56 PM
So I bought a Buzzsaw. I was pretty excited about it, it looked like a pretty cool gun. Turns out it wasn't as cool as I thought. I assumed that it was motorized, but you have to crank the thing to get it going. And you have to crank it ALOT to get any kind of decent range. And it's noisy as all hell. So, I decided to retire it to a good idea/poor execution kind of thing. Then I was digging through my closet and I found an old Tamiya R/C Car that hasn't seen use for a few years. IDEA!!
First things first, take apart the Buzzsaw. Do this by removing the twelve screws on the case. Lift off the case, and reveal the internals. Your next step is to remove the light blue crank rod thingy, and throw it away. We don't need it anymore.
Next, unscrew the two screws on the orange gearbox and expose the gears. It should look like this:
Now let's talk about how this gun works. It's actually pretty cool.
When you pull back the crank handle, teeth on the bottom catch on gear one. Gear one spins gear two, and the force of gear two spinning forces gear three down to engage the main gear which directly spins the drive wheel, which is what propels the balls out of the gun. When you stop pulling, a little spring pushes gear three out of contact with the drive gear, acting as a clutch and allowing you to pump back and forth while the drive wheel only spins one way. Pretty Sweet.
Then I tore the motor out of the R/C car. Unfortunately, the pinion gear on the motor does not mesh with the nerf gears, so I had to find a substitute. Some might call it coincidence that a Lego gear meshes perfectly with the nerf gears,
I call it destiny.
Now I had to cut out the middle of the lego gear and kind of squish it onto the pinion gear, which works fine, for now, but I’m working on a more permanent solution.
Next I mounted the motor to the orange panel that we removed earlier, lining up my new gear to mesh with gear two (I chose to remove gear one. Keeping it in might have increased the speed of the drive wheel, but it would also reduce torque. It was also easier to work without it). Take care to get these aligned and centered. If you don’t, you’ll generate a lot more friction, which will steal power from the gun. My motor has screw-mounting holes built in, so I just drilled three holes in the orange panel, two for screws and one for the drive shaft of the motor. Finished, it looks like this:
I had to trim the orange panel to make space for the screws, but it was no big deal. Now on the main gearbox you have to cut out a space for your new gear to sit. This is what mine looks like:
(ignore gear one, it should be removed now.)
Now, re-attach the orange panel with the newly mounted motor. Make sure that your gears will spin freely with as little grinding as possible. You may have to adjust your mounting holes. I know I did. Here’s what mine looks like now:
Next, you have to cut a whole in the exterior case to accommodate the motor. I used a dremel for this. Dremels are invaluable. You should go buy one right now. Here’s the hole:
Now, if everything has gone well, you should be able to put everything back together.
Here’s what mine looks like fully assembled:
Okay, so right now it’s pretty complicated and cumbersome. I need the speed controller to adjust the throttle of the motor. If I went from a dead stop to full speed the gears might grind and fly apart. I’m going to replace the electronic speed controller with a mechanical one so I won’t need the receiver. I will mount that to the gun along with the battery. I think that might make the gun a little more practical, but not by much. The thing feels like a gyroscope at full speed. Ranges are greatly increased. In fact the balls get so much backspin that they curve up at about twelve feet, so it’s not very accurate.
It is a lot of fun, though. So let me know what you guys think, and if you have any questions. I’ll try to post a video on youtube later today. Thanks for having me here at Nerfhaven.
#2
Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:02 PM
Hadokn: Great first post, great mod.
Welcome to the Haven.
#3
Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:03 PM
I'm amazed, and I want one.
Edited by boisie, 27 March 2008 - 03:04 PM.
#4
Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:05 PM
I mean like, wow, man .
That is uber ballin'. It looks like the most practical place to put the controls would be on the front of the gun, near the large orange gear-housing.
BTW: I suggest going to A.C. Moore or some craft shop to buy some stick on velcro. Just loop 2 bands around the ball at a perpendicular angle so that they meet in the center, and you can use them for dart-tag.
#5
Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:06 PM
#6
Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:22 PM
It's not like that. I put lube on it and its the same. Its just stuck. And when I cock it back it goes farther back then usual. Also I push as hard as I can and it wont go back in. I've tried the methods and they wont work. Also pics are up.
#7
Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:24 PM
Im curious as to if your RC motor has enough tourque to continue fireing rapidly with out the fly wheel slowing down siginificantly. Do you have that problem?
#8
Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:26 PM
I pity the fool who attempts to use a single-shot blaster against me.
#10
Posted 27 March 2008 - 04:48 PM
#11
Posted 27 March 2008 - 06:25 PM
#12
Posted 27 March 2008 - 06:56 PM
Very, very cool...looking forward to seeing it in action. And I agree, this gun is crying out for a hopper and the full auto mod. Three liter bottles have been used on buzz/ripsaws to increase the capacity.
#14
Posted 27 March 2008 - 07:35 PM
Since you have a reciever on it anf its electric couldn't you in theory use it as a trap or something, that would be pretty cool and good job nice first post.
-DTR
Yes you could. You would have to rig up a way to have the trigger run off a remote, but this could be done with a small electric actuator with a remote switch since you already have a power source. Only problem is it wouldnt really be all that effective unless it was covering something similar to a ally-way. Yet it would still scare the hell out of someone if they did not know it was there.
Edited by wilbyrum, 27 March 2008 - 07:36 PM.
#15
Posted 27 March 2008 - 07:43 PM
Edited by NerfCrazy, 27 March 2008 - 07:44 PM.
#16
Posted 27 March 2008 - 08:53 PM
If you're worried about the gears
If the gears are normal sized, I'd see if I could replace the plastic gears with metal ones, or if that doesn't work, then mount another gear to change the ratio so that the motor doesn't completely demolish the teeth.
also, have you tried adding a resistor instead of the speed controller? Once you get a perfect speed / gear ratio set, it should be pretty simple to mount the batteries and tuck everything inside the gun.
#17
Posted 27 March 2008 - 09:10 PM
Only, now I feel like I need to contribute a mod or something to the site, after all of my posts, I haven't thought of any mods to perform and make a write up. I just need to get some barrel material, and there are other complications...
#18
Posted 28 March 2008 - 01:52 AM
#19
Posted 28 March 2008 - 08:41 AM
Welcome to Nerfhaven, and I look forward to more of your stuff.
#20
Posted 28 March 2008 - 02:20 PM
Good on you for forging ahead, and actually doing it, nice clean work also. As you troubleshoot and find out what does work and what doesn't work (is that a Mabuchi 380 can or 540 can motor?), we look forward to the results of your experimentation and R & D. I just wish more NerfHaven members would dedicate themselves to projects instead of making some pretty nasty looking ghetto blasters, then running to the next fad blaster project that rolls down our way (how everyone is "talking" of what they want to do to the Vulcan, for example).
Keep up the good work. And thanks for patiently waiting for validation. I hope you find it worth your wait.
-Piney-
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#21
Posted 19 May 2008 - 02:50 PM
Buzzsaw Video
Edited by hadokn, 19 May 2008 - 02:51 PM.
#23
Posted 19 May 2008 - 03:01 PM
So here's a video of the thing in action. I'm still working on integrating everything, but school gets in the way. Enjoy.
Buzzsaw Video
I do NOT want to be on the receiving end of that... I love this mod.
#24
Posted 19 May 2008 - 03:07 PM
And what motor is that? I replaced the motor in one of my rc cars, and I have a spare lying around.
~Bomberman
EDIT: Man, those two posts popped up quickly..
Edited by Bomberman, 19 May 2008 - 03:08 PM.
It's not like that. I put lube on it and its the same. Its just stuck. And when I cock it back it goes farther back then usual. Also I push as hard as I can and it wont go back in. I've tried the methods and they wont work. Also pics are up.
#25
Posted 19 May 2008 - 05:20 PM
Nerf Rocket Air Launcher
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