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[Team Slaya]

Ah, I gotcha now. Thanks a bunch for the explanation.

TS

[CaptainSlug]

I finally broke down and bought a Recon this afternoon and I would like to say that there is no dead space.
If you undo the screw in the very back of the plunger rod a cosmetic piece comes out and you can see this.

The plunger actually pushes against the opposite face. There's no real dead-space in the functioning section of the plunger rod.

[analogkid]

I finally broke down and bought a Recon this afternoon and I would like to say that there is no dead space.
If you undo the screw in the very back of the plunger rod a cosmetic piece comes out and you can see this.

The plunger actually pushes against the opposite face. There's no real dead-space in the functioning section of the plunger rod.

Yeah, thats more or less what I found out. Can't help but think there aren't more ways to increase power in this gun though.

[Darin]

Personally I think that Nerf is trying to make their guns more and more unmodable, because they are seeing people have them modified, and think its becoming a problem. Thats why i really think its tough to mod this gun.

[Cmdrmack]

People said the same thing when Nerf was shifting from almost exclusively springers to almost exclusively air guns. We just found new ways to modify in order to get around them. Now we have barrel replacements.

I don't think Nerf is actively trying to make their blasters unmoddable, if they were they wouldn't have contacts at this site.

As a community, we can come up with something to make this blaster better. The crossbow was released over a decade ago and people are still finding ways to improve it. The spring additions/replacements/whatever are working fairly well until we find something that works even better.

[PvtMcFlurry]

I have one question thats really been bothering me. Is the armed rod that extends when the gun is primed purely cosmetic or does it have a function. Because I really like the look of the gun without that extended so I wanted to know if it was possible to remove it before I went out and bought 1.

~McFlurry

[sputnik]

I believe it is necessary.

[zaphodB]

It's the plunger, and it holds the spring when the gun is not cocked. It is absolutely necessary.

[Darin]

You could saw off the plunger and put a ring big enough to hold the spring possibly?

[zaphodB]

No, you can't, the tube is absolutely essential to the gun's firing. And have you ever tried to hold a big spring in one place with a ring? It doesn't work.

[analogkid]

Yes, don't mess with the armed tube. AT ALL. Unless you want to break it. And as far as nerf making guns unmoddable, this has been a tough one. I honestly think that with the exception of the awesome NF-Recon i just saw, there's not too much that can be done that will improve it.

Edited by analogkid, 28 January 2008 - 05:35 PM.

[vaan]

I did a bit to mine, I did what you did with the wire, and i covered the whole in the bolt, removed the ar, and replaced the main barrel with some odd size aluminum that my dad had lying around. I get like 55' flat.

[DragonX]

i was just wondering if you could put another spring in there instead of the wire like in the night finder mod i forget who did it but i think it might work... let me know what u think

[Squishy]

i was just wondering if you could put another spring in there instead of the wire like in the night finder mod i forget who did it but i think it might work... let me know what u think

Firstly, I really recommend you read the Code of Conduct, I swear it's in your best interest. Secondly, if you look, you can see that there are tight tolerances for the inner and outer diameter of the spring, as it must fit around the 'Armed' portion and inside of it's 'sleeve' in the blaster.

[MoonMaster]

Since I don't personally have a Recon, I have no idea if this will work, but it might help. Linkage!
Yes, I know that is a Maverick, but I mean the whole foaming for a more efficient pressure dealio.<-Edit

Edited by MoonMaster, 01 February 2008 - 06:38 AM.

[Squishy]

Since I don't personally have a Recon, I have no idea if this will work, but it might help. Linkage!
Yes, I know that is a Maverick, but I mean the whole foaming for a more efficient pressure dealio.<-Edit

There is no real way to implement this, in addition I tend to believe multiple changes in diameter does nothing but slow the flow of air.

[DragonX]

i was just wondering if you could put another spring in there instead of the wire like in the night finder mod i forget who did it but i think it might work... let me know what u think

Firstly, I really recommend you read the Code of Conduct, I swear it's in your best interest. Secondly, if you look, you can see that there are tight tolerances for the inner and outer diameter of the spring, as it must fit around the 'Armed' portion and inside of it's 'sleeve' in the blaster.

First off thanks for the tip on the Code of Conduct. Second, if you could get a spring to fit though do you think it would work? I have a spring i think will fit so im just wondering if it would work in theory at least.

Edited by DragonX, 01 February 2008 - 11:35 PM.

[analogkid]

First off thanks for the tip on the Code of Conduct. Second, if you could get a spring to fit though do you think it would work? I have a spring i think will fit so im just wondering if it would work in theory at least.

If you can find a spring that fits inside the case, yeah it will work. Good luck buying a fitting spring though, the ones I was looking at were $9 with minimum purchase of 10, so $90USD.

[Uterly]

Make a thread where people can sign up to order one from you. When you have at least 9 other people who want one order them and then sell them to each person for like 1 dollar more to cover your initial shipping.

[MoonMaster]

Since I don't personally have a Recon, I have no idea if this will work, but it might help. Linkage!
Yes, I know that is a Maverick, but I mean the whole foaming for a more efficient pressure dealio.<-Edit

There is no real way to implement this, in addition I tend to believe multiple changes in diameter does nothing but slow the flow of air.

Ahh, sorry. I was just trying to contribute. I finally got a Recon today!

[analogkid]

Make a thread where people can sign up to order one from you. When you have at least 9 other people who want one order them and then sell them to each person for like 1 dollar more to cover your initial shipping.

That was my thought but there are a couple problems here. First, startup money. Second, the springs are totally untested, therefore, maybe they don't fit exactly right, degrade performance instead, break parts of the gun, etc...so really I (or we) could end up getting screwed anyway. I don't think I can get them to send me a sample either.

Edited by analogkid, 02 February 2008 - 04:48 PM.

[Uterly]

start the thread and try...

Risk<>Reward

[Agent Jonny B]

Make a thread where people can sign up to order one from you. When you have at least 9 other people who want one order them and then sell them to each person for like 1 dollar more to cover your initial shipping.

That's a pretty good idea, I'd jump right in if I had money to spare.

Ever think they might have made it harder to modify the recon because of the crazy longshot mods out there? I didn't even mod mine full out, just took out the air restrictors and modified the darts. Even with felt tips, all my victims gripe over the sting for a few minutes, quite funny sometimes...

[analogkid]

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[quote name='Uterly' post='138217' date='Feb 2 2008, 09:38 AM']
Make a thread where people can sign up to order one from you. When you have at least 9 other people who want one order them and then sell them to each person for like 1 dollar more to cover your initial shipping.
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That's a pretty good idea, I'd jump right in if I had money to spare.

Ever think they might have made it harder to modify the recon because of the crazy longshot mods out there? I didn't even mod mine full out, just took out the air restrictors and modified the darts. Even with felt tips, all my victims gripe over the sting for a few minutes, quite funny sometimes...
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With a recon they complain? Who are you shooting, cute and easily breakable puppies? Small children? And this is good news, I didn't think that too many people would want to blindly give me $10+ with no guarantee. I'll start the thread in a day or so when I have time to determine what prices would be, shipping, etc.

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[Agent Jonny B]

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[quote name='Uterly' post='138217' date='Feb 2 2008, 09:38 AM']
Make a thread where people can sign up to order one from you. When you have at least 9 other people who want one order them and then sell them to each person for like 1 dollar more to cover your initial shipping.
[/quote]

That's a pretty good idea, I'd jump right in if I had money to spare.

Ever think they might have made it harder to modify the recon because of the crazy longshot mods out there? I didn't even mod mine full out, just took out the air restrictors and modified the darts. Even with felt tips, all my victims gripe over the sting for a few minutes, quite funny sometimes...
[/quote]
With a recon they complain? Who are you shooting, cute and easily breakable puppies? Small children? And this is good news, I didn't think that too many people would want to blindly give me $10+ with no guarantee. I'll start the thread in a day or so when I have time to determine what prices would be, shipping, etc.
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Sorry I wasn't specific about which gun I modified, it was the longshot, not the recon, and it was a few college friends that I shot, though even with a well-modified recon I can't imagine it being powerful enough to get the complaints I've gotten with even the longshot. I don't have a recon yet, but judging by the pictures I've seen, it just doesn't look like it has much room for mods. I'll probably only know for sure when I get one and open it myself, and see what I can come up with.

Edited by Agent Jonny B, 04 February 2008 - 10:39 PM.