badger

The results are in. We know who the winenrs are. Sorry for the wait.

First off, let me post the scores for the NH entrants. We had a couple of last minute judge changes on account that HeretiCorp (NHQ) and NerfDude1138 (FU) seem to have dropped off the face of the planet. Blacksunshine (NHQ) and Duckslayer (FU) have taken their place and have been a great help.

Scores will be listed in this order and format:

Entrant's Name
Judges Name, Function, Cleanliness, Mod. Difficulty, Writeup Quality, Creativity, Score Total (FN#, CL#, MD#, WQ#, CR#, TOTAL#)
Average Score

If you have any questions about your final scores, post them here.

b00m13
Groove (FN 7, CL 8, MD 4, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 33)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 7, MD 5, WQ 7, CR 7, TOTAL 33)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 8, MD 10, WQ 7, CR 3, TOTAL 35)
Average Score = 33.67

PointBlank
Groove (FN 6, CL 8, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 8, TOTAL 35)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 8, MD 6, WQ 9, CR 8, TOTAL 38)
Forsaken (FN 4, CL 8, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 9, TOTAL 38)
Average Score = 37.00

lianbria
Groove (FN 5, CL 4, MD 7, WQ 6, CR 2, TOTAL 24)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 5, MD 7, WQ 6, CR 2, TOTAL 24)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 33)
Average Score = 27.00

Pie_lover123
Groove (FN 2, CL 3, MD 6, WQ 4, CR 2, TOTAL 17)
Captain Slug (FN 2, CL 3, MD 8, WQ 4, CR 5, TOTAL 22)
Forsaken (FN 5, CL 8, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 6, TOTAL 36)
Average Score = 25.00

Lone_Wolf14
Groove (FN 7, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 9, CR 9, TOTAL 38)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 9, CR 8, TOTAL 36)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 7, TOTAL 34)
Average Score = 36.00

xtremejumpy
Groove (FN 4, CL 2, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 5, TOTAL 26)
Captain Slug (FN 3, CL 3, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 5, TOTAL 25)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 4, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 7, TOTAL 31)
Average Score = 27.33

Liam
Groove (FN 8, CL 5, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 5, TOTAL 33)
Captain Slug (FN 8, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 4, TOTAL 32)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 7, MD 9, WQ 9, CR 2, TOTAL 34)
Average Score = 33.00

NerfRogue83
Groove (FN 4, CL 5, MD 4, WQ 5, CR 4, TOTAL 22)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 6, MD 3, WQ 5, CR 4, TOTAL 23)
Forsaken (FN 9, CL 8, MD 6, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 37)
Average Score = 27.33

A Side of Nerf
Groove (FN 8, CL 7, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 9, TOTAL 39)
Captain Slug (FN 8, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 35)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 7, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 9, TOTAL 40)
Average Score = 38.00

Gym
Groove (FN 5, CL 8, MD 1, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 31)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 8, MD 2, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 32)
Forsaken (FN 1, CL 9, MD 4, WQ 9, CR 6, TOTAL 29)
Average Score = 30.67

madmax
Groove (FN 8, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 5, CR 4, TOTAL 29)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 6, CR 6, TOTAL 31)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 7, MD 8, WQ 8, CR 5, TOTAL 36)
Average Score = 32.00

Elwood
Groove (FN 2, CL 1, MD 7, WQ 9, CR 2, TOTAL 21)
Captain Slug (FN 4, CL 3, MD 7, WQ 4, CR 3, TOTAL 21)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 2, MD 6, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 30)
Average Score = 24.00

Mehku
Groove (FN 7, CL 5, MD 4, WQ 8, CR 1, TOTAL 25)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 5, MD 7, WQ 6, CR 2, TOTAL 26)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 8, MD 9, WQ 8, CR 1, TOTAL 33)
Average Score = 28.00

SonReeceSonJensen
Groove (FN 4, CL 2, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 9, TOTAL 28)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 9, TOTAL 33)
Forsaken (FN 3, CL 2, MD 5, WQ 8, CR 8, TOTAL 26)
Average Score = 29.00

white moonlight
Groove (FN 7, CL 5, MD 7, WQ 6, CR 4, TOTAL 29)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 4, TOTAL 30)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 6, CR 6, TOTAL 31)
Average Score = 30.00

wasdf
Groove (FN 1, CL 2, MD 5, WQ 4, CR 2, TOTAL 14)
Captain Slug (FN 3, CL 3, MD 6, WQ 4, CR 2, TOTAL 18)
Forsaken (FN 1, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 3, TOTAL 25)
Average Score = 19.00

TantumBull
Groove (FN 7, CL 8, MD 3, WQ 10, CR 7, TOTAL 35)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 7, MD 4, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 31)
Forsaken (FN 9, CL 9, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 7, TOTAL 40)
Average Score = 35.33

dizzyduck
Groove (FN 8, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 10, CR 4, TOTAL 35)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 9, CR 4, TOTAL 32)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 10, CR 6, TOTAL 40)
Average Score = 35.67

SPV999
Groove (FN 4, CL 2, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 9, TOTAL 28)
Captain Slug (FN 3, CL 3, MD 5, WQ 7, CR 9, TOTAL 27)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 9, MD 4, WQ 8, CR 8, TOTAL 36)
Average Score = 30.33

koree
Groove (FN 7, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 8, CR 10, TOTAL 42)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 38)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 7, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 2, TOTAL 31)
Average Score = 37.00

nerfer63
Groove (FN 5, CL 3, MD 4, WQ 4, CR 7, TOTAL 23)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 2, MD 5, WQ 6, CR 5, TOTAL 23)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 3, TOTAL 30)
Average Score = 25.33

sublimedom777
Groove (FN 6, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 7, TOTAL 32)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 30)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 5, CR 6, TOTAL 31)
Average Score = 31.00

louiec3
Groove (FN 4, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 4, CR 3, TOTAL 22)
Captain Slug (FN 4, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 5, CR 5, TOTAL 25)
Forsaken (FN 4, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 8, TOTAL 32)
Average Score = 26.33

venom213
Groove (FN 9, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 37)
Captain Slug (FN 9, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 37)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 9, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 38)
Average Score = 37.33

Zack the Mack
Groove (FN 5, CL 5, MD 4, WQ 6, CR 2, TOTAL 22)
Captain Slug (FN 4, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 5 CR 2, TOTAL 22)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 33)
Average Score = 25.67

Fome
Groove (FN 6, CL 6, MD 5, WQ 9, CR 10, TOTAL 36)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 9, CR 10, TOTAL 37)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 9, MD 4, WQ 8, CR 7, TOTAL 34)
Average Score = 35.67

dim3
Groove (FN 2, CL 6, MD 4, WQ 7, CR 3, TOTAL 22)
Captain Slug (FN 3, CL 6, MD 5, WQ 8, CR 3, TOTAL 25)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 9, TOTAL 41)
Average Score = 29.33

Dayko
Groove (FN 6, CL 3, MD 5, WQ 9, CR 4, TOTAL 27)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 5, MD 5, WQ 9, CR 6, TOTAL 30)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 8, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 7, TOTAL 38)
Average Score = 31.67

Assassin NF
Groove (FN 5, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 30)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 8, CR 5, TOTAL 29)
Forsaken (FN 9, CL 7, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 8, TOTAL 41)
Average Score = 33.33

Darken
Groove (FN 7, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 32)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 5, TOTAL 34)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 7, MD 9, WQ 8, CR 4, TOTAL 35)
Average Score = 33.67

Blue
Groove (FN 5, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 10, TOTAL 36)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 5, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 32)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 4, TOTAL 31)
Average Score = 33.00

Dart Attack
Groove (FN 7, CL 7, MD 3, WQ 10, CR 9, TOTAL 36)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 7, MD 3, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 34)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 9, MD 6, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 39)
Average Score = 36.33

Split
Groove (FN 4, CL 8, MD 1, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 30)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 8, MD 1, WQ 9, CR 9, TOTAL 32)
Forsaken (FN 5, CL 10, MD 9, WQ 9, CR 8, TOTAL 41)
Average Score = 34.33

Mr Badwrench
Groove (FN 7, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 4, TOTAL 31)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 5, TOTAL 33)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 8, MD 8, WQ 5, CR 6, TOTAL 35)
Average Score = 33.00

slowguitarman
Groove (FN 6, CL 2, MD 4, WQ 8, CR 7, TOTAL 27)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 3, MD 4, WQ 8, CR 8, TOTAL 30)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 4, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 36)
Average Score = 31.00

Soothsayer
Groove (FN 7, CL 5, MD 5, WQ 6, CR 2, TOTAL 25)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 5, MD 5, WQ 6, CR 2, TOTAL 25)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 8, CR 2, TOTAL 35)
Average Score = 28.33

wing'd man
Groove (FN 5, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 6, CR 3, TOTAL 25)
Captain Slug (FN 5, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 6, CR 4, TOTAL 26)
Forsaken (FN 7, CL 6, MD 7, WQ 5, CR 6, TOTAL 31)
Average Score = 27.33

CoasterDynamix757
Groove (FN 8, CL 8, MD 6, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 36)
Captain Slug (FN 8, CL 8, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 35)
Forsaken (FN 6, CL 8, MD 8, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 36)
Average Score = 35.67

THIRST
Groove (FN 8, CL 3, MD 7, WQ 7, CR 7, TOTAL 32)
Captain Slug (FN 8, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 33)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 8, CR 9, TOTAL 39)
Average Score = 34.67

The winner for NH is A Side of Nerf.

And now for Round Two....and the problem we had. The rules for scoring on Round Two were simple. The entrant's original score would be thrown out and a new score would be created by the 6 judges that didn't evaluate it. For example, A Side of Nerf's mod would be evaluated by the judges from NHQ and FU, making a totally new score.

The reason for the long delay in getting the results out was that we had a tie for First Place. To solve this problem, we asked for another jduge from the forum that didn't have an entrant tied for First Place to give us his scores to break the tie.

And now for the final scores in a similar format to what was used above.

A Side of Nerf - NH WINNER
NHQ Judges
Badger (FN 9, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 3, TOTAL 36)
Bpso86 (FN 7, CL 7, MD 5, WQ 9, CR 4, TOTAL 32)
Blacksunshine (FN 7, CL 5, MD 7, WQ 9, CR 5, TOTAL 33)
FU Judges
Jwasko (FN 9, CL 9, MD 9, WQ 10, CR 9, TOTAL 46)
Duckslayer (FN 8, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 7, TOTAL 38)
Trag (FN 9, CL 8, MD 6, WQ 9, CR 6 TOTAL 38)
Average Score = 37.17

imaseoulman - NHQ WINNER
NH Judges
Groove (FN 5, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 9, CR 6, TOTAL 32)
Captain Slug (FN 7, CL 7, MD 5, WQ 7, CR 6, TOTAL 32)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 8, TOTAL 42)
FU Judges
Jwasko (FN 10, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 8, TOTAL 44)
Duckslayer (FN 8, CL 5, MD 8, WQ 10, CR 10, TOTAL 41)
Trag (FN 8, CL 7, MD 7, WQ 6, CR 8 TOTAL 36)
Average Score = 37.83

atomatron - FU WINNER
NH Judges
Groove (FN 8, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 8, CR 6, TOTAL 36)
Captain Slug (FN 6, CL 6, MD 8, WQ 7, CR 4, TOTAL 31)
Forsaken (FN 8, CL 9, MD 8, WQ 9, CR 7, TOTAL 41)
NHQ Judges
Badger (FN 8, CL 8, MD 9, WQ 6, CR 8, TOTAL 39)
Bpso86 (FN 9, CL 5, MD 6, WQ 8, CR 7, TOTAL 35)
Blacksunshine (FN 10, CL 9, MD 9, WQ 10, CR 7 TOTAL 45)
Average Score = 37.83

This puts imaseoulman and atomatron tied for First Place.

Final scores:

imaseoulman - NHQ WINNER
VACC from NH (FN 5, CL 6, MD 6, WQ 7, CR 5, TOTAL 29)

atomatron - FU WINNER
VACC from NH (FN 8, CL9, MD 5, WQ 5 CR 3, TOTAL 30)

FINAL RESULTS
3RD PLACE - A Side of Nerf from NH
2ND PLACE - imaseoulman from NHQ
1ST PLACE - atomatron from FU

Congratulations to all the winners!!! Keep a lookout next year for the return of the Mother of All Modification Contests with possibly some new judges, improved judging criteria and new entry rules. I thank everyone who participated in the competition for working with the judges. There were a few issues with the rules that we hope to rectify before next year.

All winners will be contacted.

Finally, a piece of advice that everyone should heed and take to heart. To increase your chances of winning for next year, maybe you should enter on a different forum besides Haven. NH had a total of 39 entries, NHQ had 10, and FU had only 7. Many of the users that entered here at NH have an account at the other forums as well. You do realize that your chances of winning would have been greater if you had entered on either NHQ or FU? You had only about a 2.5% chance of winning on NH, yet you had a 10% chance at NHQ and about a 15.6% chance of getting into the finals if you had entered at FU.

It is also nicer to the judges at NH not to overwhelm them.

PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THIS POLL HAS ALSO BEEN POSTED AT NHQ AND FU. IF YOU VOTED AT ONE OF THOSE SITES, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM VOTING HERE SO AS TO NOT SKEW THE RESULTS OF THE POLL. I WILL BE TABULATING THE RESULTS FROM ALL THREE FORUMS.

I am in need of some information as to what types of weights you all use. This information will be used for a special project that, if it works, will be unveiled at Apocalypse this year and tested on a large scale for the first time. For those that won't be attending Apoc, I will post the project the day after the war. If it is successful, it will be of great benefit to everyone in the NIC and the product of the project will save everyone a lot of money as well as time. All will be revealed once August arrives, unless I decide to release it earlier, but with my busy life and work schedule, August may be the best I can do. So I ask of you all to please vote and post if need be. Do not ask me for hints as I will not give any. I prefer to keep this completely under wraps so if it doesn't work this time, I can try again and not get everyone's hopes dashed.

I have been to several events this year and my girlfriend, Maryann, was there to take photos for as long as the batteries lasted. People kept asking me for the photos, but life issues and my pathetic memory, kept getting in the way. Here are links to my Photobucket account for the following wars:

ECNO 2008 in NJ

Reckoning 2008

Unveristy of Maryland 2008 -The Dart of War

I chose to post them this way rather than necroing old recap threads.

Enjoy!

I logged in this morning (rather be sleeping, but Maryann is at work) and I just noticed it was both VACC and Talio's brithdays today.

Well Happy Birthday you two from the old nerfing animal! I owe you both a beer when I see each of you again!

Now go outside and burn, diddle and pillage to your heart's content!

Hello NerfHaven members, both old and new. I titled this topic "The Brink of Frustration" as it is where I sit right now, as I type on my computer. Before I begin, let me state this:

I am not a moderator or an administrator here at NerfHaven and this is not a form of backseat moderating, but I do have the blessings of Groove, one of the founders of Nerfhaven, when it comes in reference to this topic. I am not here to berate someone for disobeying the CoC or other guidelines of this forum, simply to point out everything that has been annoying me and many of the other members here.

Now on to my task at hand. In the past I have occasionally sent a PM to users that were getting out of hand to steer them in the right direction to further their time here at the Haven. If someone was still a problem, then I would notify an admin, usually Pineapple, to take care of things. I have now realized how time consuming that was and have reduced my efforts considerably. I did this moreso to avoid flaming someone in the forums, but things didn't change. Lately I have been bashing people right out in public, but it still seems to not be working, so now I am at the brink.

Things have gotten completely out of hand here with many of the new users. The admins have been busy with "real life" issues and the only one that has been online consistently has been ompa. I'm pretty sure that, save for 5-10 posts in the past few weeks, every post he has made has been to reprimand someone for doing something stupid. This is what has brought me to the brink. Now I am crossing that line.

If your name appears in this topic, it is because you are one of those people that has pissed me off in the past with your actions here and it needs to be shown that you are a problem. I joined these forums as originally a collector, with no regard for anything other than to expand my collection. Then found a love for nerfing, and later, modding. I am also a member of NHQ, but I consider the Haven my home. How would you all feel if someone was trashing your home, with no regard for how you wanted things to be? You'd be pretty fuckin' pissed of too!

Let's start with all of the concept threads that have been sprouting up all over forums. We have ty23's "Air and Spring Powered Longshot", Viper_Bravo's "Longshot Co2 Mod Concept", and dartmaster01's "Automatic Gun Idea", to name a few. I recall that Pineapple had posted in the News forum that concept threads will no longer be tolerated. If you aren't going to try it yourself and just pool us for info, with no intention of ever really going through with it, then stop wasting our fuckin' time! If the concept is possible, you won't find out unless you try it for yourself. That is how this hobby got started. If it isn't going to work, you will be the first to know.

Next up on my list of annoyances is not posting your topic in the right forum. Here we have nerfer125 "R There Any Nerfers In Conyers,ga?" in both General Nerf and Off-Topic (should be in Nerf Wars), "Automatic Gun Idea" in General Nerf (should be in Mods Forum), foo fighter's "Sonic Bazooka Air Leak" in General nerf (should be in Mods Forum), and many others. The forums are pretty easy to understand. If it is about a mod, whether completed or a problem with one, then it belongs in Modifications. If it is about where there might be some nerfers in your area or about an upcoming event, it goes in Nerf Wars. If it is about useless shit not related to Nerf, go to Off-Topic. General Nerf is for topics discussing new things you saw, product information, and other GENERAL topics. When the topic is more specific, it has a place to go. Not a hard concept.

My next pet peeve is the biggest one of them all for many people here, especially ompa. Those that most likely never read the Code of Conduct, the rules that govern how you will act here, and those that don't believe in using proper English skills. I'm not going to list everyone that is a problem with this as there are too many. If I wanted to work to decipher a message, I would have became a codebreaker when I was in the Air Force. I mean, how hard is it to type something coherent? If you have a problem with spelling, plug your posts into a program with a spell checker so that it is good for posting. If grammar is your problem, same thing applies. If you use AIM and L33t speak, then think about where you are. This is not an MMORPG or an instant messenger program. This is not the screen on your phone that you probably only use for text messaging. This is a fuckin' forum. A place where people with like minds trade information. No one should have to read your posts more than once to figure out what you are saying.

This next one was just atrocious. G-force is the annoying fuck for this one. There was an 11-year old suspended from the forums for obvious reasons. After the deed was done, G-force was happy and gloating about it. How the fuck old are you, since it seems that you aren't much older than Spyder? What was the point of that?

This one goes out to the post whores. Those people that have barely been here 6 months, yet have more posts than me. Do you really have to post on every thread? You just got into nerfing and you seem to have something to say about everything, yet most of your comments are the same. "WOW!" "That's cool!" "Great mod!" You do realize that more posts doesn't make you any less of a pathetic piece of shit? I logged in one day and clicked to look at the new posts since I was last on, and the same name was the last to comment on 10 threads! Instead of living on these forums and having a comment for everything you see, log out and either nerf or mod something.

This is all I can think of at 3 AM that has been pissing me the fuck off. I will post more as it happens and when I remember it. I am sick and fuckin' tired of people dragging my favorite place through the dirt with their childish bullshit and their disregard for how things run here. Piss me off again, I dare you!

Oh by the way, if you are one of the fuckers that is the problem here and you post in your wonderfully annoying style, I will tear you apart right here. I am fed up with the bullshit and not holding back any longer. You should all start praying for me to go back to the polite PM system.