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#1 Shadow nerfer

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 10:47 AM

i have been reading these forums and reading about all the longshot mods people have made, like shotgun grips and integrating the barrel extension pistol to the bottom of the main gun. i was wondering, does anyone have any ideas about making a SOPMOD system that would allow you to slide on the pistol and have it fireable by the main trigger or slide that off and put a shotgun grip that could attach to the bolt?

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 10:56 AM

That would be kinda difficult to make. Well for the shot gun foregrip, you could ask CaptainSlug to make a custom on, but I'm guessing it would be pricey.
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Posted 25 June 2007 - 11:36 AM

i was wondering, does anyone have any ideas about making a SOPMOD system that would allow you to slide on the pistol and have it fireable by the main trigger or slide that off and put a shotgun grip that could attach to the bolt?

Do you mean to put the foregrip and the pistol in the same place? If so it'd be incredibly difficult to do because the foregrip requires a certain piece on the longshot to work properly, and to do the pistol mod requires you to cut that piece off. The only way I could think of is if you made a rail of some sorts that has the neccesary features to use the shotgun foregrip, and (with a a lot of dremeling on the pistol) can be used to slide the pistol on as well, but I think you'd have to fire the pistol manually as opposed to using the Longshots main trigger.
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Posted 25 June 2007 - 12:29 PM

I thought he meant sliding the handgun on like you would slide a scout/NF/Mav onto a titan, and have it so that you can interchange between the "sliding handgun" and a force grip handle.
I had a similar thought about it when modding my friend's LS, but I'd lose the ability to fire both barrels from the main trigger (You'd have to make it fire from a pull string that would hang out of the back of the LS's sidearm.)

um, is this pic what ya mean?

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#5 Shadow nerfer

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 12:56 PM

kind of, but i am going to try to make the sidearm fire from a wire like most of the other integrations do. i just dont know how i am going to do that yet
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Posted 25 June 2007 - 02:23 PM

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 03:21 PM

There is a wire, it's hanging from the back of the sidearm (the line with the black ring).
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#8 Shadow nerfer

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 07:31 PM

well, im gonna wire the wire into the gun onto the main trigger, yet again i dont know exactly how yet
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Posted 25 June 2007 - 08:11 PM

How about, instead of the black ring, you attach the wire to a nut/screw, then drill a hole on the bottom "front most" section of the trigger, and just insert the screw in. Screw in the nut afterwards. Something to remember, if you're using metal fishing wire, this might not apply to you, but I've used the regular "plastic" fishing wire in my friend's LS integration (I used 3 wires and braided them together) and when pulling the trigger, the wire stretched a bit. Which caused the sidearm to not fire, so the thing you should remember to do when determining the length of the wire is have BOTH of the trigger mechanisms pulled back, and then knot the wire.
That way, you're sure to trigger both barrels when you fire.

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Then when you want to use the force grip mode, just unscrew and slide out the sidearm.
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Posted 25 June 2007 - 08:59 PM

Actually, I believe it possible to use a fore grip AND an integration at the same time. It just would take a bit more time to do.
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Posted 25 June 2007 - 09:11 PM

Actually, I believe it possible to use a fore grip AND an integration at the same time. It just would take a bit more time to do.


I have the foregrip. There is no room for the integration to be installed at all. Plus, it had already been mentioned that the groove above the grey paneling where the bipod used to pivot from is the track that the foregrip glides on. That area is completely removed to integrate the front gun. There is no way.

Also, it took CS a bt of time to design each version of his foregrip. I doubt highly that he is going to make a custom grip for one person, but I shouldn't speak for him. I just know how much time he spent on the ones he produced for sale. It isn't worth his time and money to make a version for one person. Sorry.
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Posted 25 June 2007 - 09:54 PM

Actually, I believe it possible to use a fore grip AND an integration at the same time. It just would take a bit more time to do.


I think it's possible too, here's what I think it would look like.

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Might just be a huge failure, but at least it will look badass.

EDIT: oops, I forgot to draw in the triggers, so it'll definitely NOT fire at all.

Edited by b00m13, 25 June 2007 - 10:00 PM.

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 10:09 PM

Trust me, it isn't possible. Here are pictures of my LS with the foregrip installed. The picture quality isn't the greatest. My girlfriend isn't home and she has the SLR, so my cell will have to do.

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Above me you see a picture of my LS. Notice how with the grip installed, there isn't really any room on the front of the gun anymore under the barrel?
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Here is an up-close picture of the same location. That grey area is the section I mentioned where the groove is that the grip utilizes.
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Here is a forward view. There is absolutely no room for the front gun integration and the shotgun foregrip. It is truly impossible. To alter the grip in any way will weaken it significantly. CS did alot of research on this before he started making them. If it was possible, he would have made a version for it.

I'm sorry to rain on your parade, but it will not work. b00m13, the old priming handle would not work either. There would be nowhere to mount it and, in your design, you would be putting uneven force on the foregrip, which will increase its chances of breaking.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 04:52 AM

Has anyone tried and succeeded in having a removable torch/ laser pointer inside their shotgun fore grip?
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 07:43 AM

Oh definatelly AssaultedByLongshot. We all LOVE to put torches into it because setting the other team on fire is REALLY what Nerf is all about. Why the hell would you put a torch into it?

As far as the laser-pointer goes, they tend to be so inaccurate nobody uses laser-pointers for nerf guns.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 07:51 AM

Oh definatelly AssaultedByLongshot. We all LOVE to put torches into it because setting the other team on fire is REALLY what Nerf is all about. Why the hell would you put a torch into it?

Torch=Flashlight. Look where he's posting from.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 07:52 AM

Oh definatelly AssaultedByLongshot. We all LOVE to put torches into it because setting the other team on fire is REALLY what Nerf is all about. Why the hell would you put a torch into it?

As far as the laser-pointer goes, they tend to be so inaccurate nobody uses laser-pointers for nerf guns.


Notice that he is from Australia? Torch is another word for flashlight, especially in the the UK, England, and Australia.

To answer your question Assaulted, I really don't know. It may be possible to mount a laser pointer in there, provided it was short enough to not interfere with the screws in the front. As for a torch (flashlight), only a real small one would work, but I don't think anyone has tried this yet. Give it a shot and use the pics I have as a guide as to where the foregrip is, if you don't own one yourself. The only problem I see is setting up some sort of locking mechanism inside the gun to hold onto the pointer/torch while you are running around, plus the lock would have to be easy to disengage so you could remove it.

Try it out. I'd like to see if it is at all possible.

EDIT: Carbon beat me to it. I'm just a little long-winded in my responses.

Edited by badger, 26 June 2007 - 07:53 AM.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 10:05 AM

Oh definatelly AssaultedByLongshot. We all LOVE to put torches into it because setting the other team on fire is REALLY what Nerf is all about. Why the hell would you put a torch into it?

He's from Australia. They call "flashlights" "torches". It's actually pretty obvious. Putting a flaming stick torch on a longshot wouldn't be a great idea, would it?
EDIT: Both Carbon and Badger beat me to it. So damn fast!

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 10:33 AM

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I think what boom13 is trying to say is that if you dremel down that part below the foregrip into a "rail" of sorts then you could remove the foregrip and put the pistol on it. I don't know that it neccesarily(sp?) needs to be the same type of intergration as everyone else does.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 11:45 AM

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Here is a picture of the gun's internals after a front gun integration. The picture was taken from this thread:

Dart Attack's integration mod

The original question posted in this topic was to find out if it was possible to make the foregrip easily removeable and be able to slide on the integrated front gun, in other words, to make the two components interchangeable.. The integrated gun is taller than the foregrip. The area of the gun that is necessary for the foregrip to work must be removed to integrate the front gun. The front gun is also wider than the foregrip. b00m13 is saying that you can use the foregrip and the integrated front gun together, but there is physically no room to do it.

Edited by badger, 26 June 2007 - 11:49 AM.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 05:43 PM

very true, but i have a development in the story. i have a rail that i am going to use, and i am going to cut my pistol thingy to fit even, and make a different kind of shotgun grip(the hard part)
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 07:23 PM

very true, but i have a development in the story. i have a rail that i am going to use, and i am going to cut my pistol thingy to fit even, and make a different kind of shotgun grip(the hard part)


This is the person I was hoping to hear from eventually. I wish you the best of luck. I would like to see how that comes out. I would say to contact CaptainSlug and see if he would help you in designing the grip as he is phenomenal when it comes to engineering, but he will be unavailable for a good portion of the summer. Post up the pics when you are done. I want to see what you can do.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 09:24 PM

Hey Shadow, check this out.

I'm using my friend's LS (that I integrated for him) for the first 3 pics.
If you drew a straight line from the stock cocking knob, you'll notice that the bottom of the knob rod is about 1/8" above the bottom of the front LS. (See 1st pic for reference.) The hole should be about 7" from the front of the gun and about 3/16" in diameter. (See pic 2 for idea where the hole should be drilled; it's the red circle).

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The dimensions for the side rail should be 14"x 1 1/4".
The black line on the side rail in the 2nd pic is what you'd saw off.
It should be about 4", the stock version is about 3 3/4", but I don't want to take any chances.

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In the 3rd pic, you can see that the rail is right under where it says "Longshot CS-6" (Can't see in my pic, but you can tell where it is on your own LS), and right above the yellow cocking mechanism for the sidearm below. There's about a 1/16" gap between it so you can be sure they wont interfere with each other.

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The last pic is borrowed from DA's thread. I'll try to explain the different colored outlines.

The light green is where the sidearm is sealed to the main LS (pretty obvious).
The yellow is the outline of the sidearm's cocking mechanism.
The red is where you'd drill a hole and screw in the nut&bolt.
The teal (That is teal right? The color from StarCraft) is the outline of the side rail.
The purple/violet is what you'd cut off from the side rail.
And the orange is the stock knob that you'd attach onto the side rail somehow (Probably by a screw, you figure it out I'm so sleepy right now).

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So there it is, the hybrid LS with Integration and Fore Grip.


PS, I've just tested using the "Longshot CS-6" plating (Look at the front of your LS for reference) for guiding the side rail back (I used my stainless steel ruler as a temp SR), and it actually worked.
In this pic, I'm holding the rail 2" cocked back.

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It's a shame my friend wont let me do anymore modding on his LS. I would have liked to test this mod out myself.

Perhaps someone would like to take a crack at it *hint hint*.

Before I forget, here's what it would look like. It's very similar to the previous pic, that's because I just continued it from the prev pic.
Small changes are:

1, Trigger has been drawn on so it CAN fire.
2, The Stock knob with the rod is inserted in the back (right hand side for righties, and vice versa).

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Edited by b00m13, 26 June 2007 - 09:25 PM.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 09:46 PM

I think your idea might work can't wait until I get my $28 in change converted to cold, hard cash so I can get a longshot. I will probably have one tommorow. ;)
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 09:51 PM

I think your idea might work can't wait until I get my $28 in change converted to cold, hard cash so I can get a longshot. I will probably have one tommorow. :D


Dude, if you actually succeed in making the 1st Hybrid Integration/Fore Grip LS using my ideas, can you toss some credits this way ;)
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