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#26 AssassinNF

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Posted 11 June 2006 - 08:57 PM

Incident #1

My brother and my dad were inside of a large fortress in my backyard that is about 8' off the ground, and they had an arsenal of assorted long range weapons ready to fire. I kept getting shot at, and all of my shots just bounced off the fort, so I ran up the 8' slide, shot them both with my dual Mavs, and jumped off the slide backwards, all without being shot once. It was kinda freaky...

Incident #2

I took on three people by myself, they had DTG's and Mavs, and I had a 1 and a half foot blowgun. I won. ^_^

Incident #3

I jumped over a 4' bunker my brother set up and nailed him with a RF20. This bunker was huge, and I don't know how I jumped it without getting shot, or how I jumped it at all.
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Posted 12 June 2006 - 11:15 AM

I think you're not nerfing with the right people or in the right place, most of my nerfing history has been prety action packed except for maybe when Tone-dogg and I 1-0n-1 throwdown LBB style (it's kinda slow having a duel at 120+ feet). My theory is that you probably don't play with a ballenced group of nerfers, for example: if you have a large ammount of long-range single-shot weapons in play and that's it, you bet the action's going to be slow. It also can be a matter of location, if you don't have the right ballance of cover and empty space things get lame, not enough cover just leads to lots of people standing out of each other's range, and too much cover keeps people from being shot at all.

I've said my 2 cents.

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That's all probably very true; thanks for taking the time to care and such. The group I Nerf with consists of usually 3 others for 2 on 2 battles that usually take place on an elementary playground, and most of the time the best gun we use shoots 60 ft on a good day with stock tagger darts, so possibly that's the problem.

However, I'm not sure if that metaphor came out right. Baseball is seen as a boring game; too slow for the likes of most teenagers who claim that "Nothing good to watch occurs." That's not exactly true though. There's always something going on in baseball, but it's not constant home runs and diving catches, it's mostly little things that you have to look for (such as pitch location, etc.)

I was not calling Nerf boring by any means, I just stated that Nerf is not persistent activity. That's probably my fault for compairing the two in the first place.
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#28 Paloose

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Posted 12 June 2006 - 11:53 AM

In my backyard, my family has a 2-story polebarn. No animals, just storage. The barn has 2 doors, a large slider in front, and a smaller one in back with windows on either side of the 2nd story.

We generally have one person go in and defend the barn and have the rest of us attack that them (we usually play either 2 on 1 or, 3 on 1). My brother was chosen to be the defender andd chose an airzone crossbow as his primary weapon and a scout stuck in his pocket. I had chosen to use an at3k and my partner was using a DTG with the restrictors removed.

Within the first 5 minutes my brother had eliminated my partner from the game and moved to the second story of the barn, only way up is a flight of stairs, to get better cover. As I followed him he took his shot at me but missed. I then watched my brother sprint, and jump out of the barn window. He then twisted in midair, pulled his scout from his pocket and shot me.

Oh, I don't know if this belongs her but I accidentally shot a deer out in the woods with a brass barreled bbb thinking it was my friend who was hiding out there.
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#29 Nero121

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Posted 12 June 2006 - 07:46 PM

Was your brother okay?
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#30 Paloose

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Posted 13 June 2006 - 11:09 AM

Was your brother okay?

Oh, he was okay, but he's lucky he only suffered a minor sprain and nothing major.
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Posted 15 June 2006 - 08:24 PM

I think you're not nerfing with the right people or in the right place, most of my nerfing history has been prety action packed except for maybe when Tone-dogg and I 1-0n-1 throwdown LBB style (it's kinda slow having a duel at 120+ feet). My theory is that you probably don't play with a ballenced group of nerfers, for example: if you have a large ammount of long-range single-shot weapons in play and that's it, you bet the action's going to be slow. It also can be a matter of location, if you don't have the right ballance of cover and empty space things get lame, not enough cover just leads to lots of people standing out of eachother's range, and too much cover keeps people from being shot at all.

I've said my 2 cents.

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That may just be because you're in California though. Aren't there normally a lot more Powerclips out there and a lot more Crossbows out here (meaning east coast/NJ)? I use a Powerclip when playing with my friends that use anything from NFs to 2ks and there isn't constant action at all. I think warx was right on target with the Lucky Charms comparison. I've never experienced CA Nerf but I think it's a lot more fast-paced than eastern wars.
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Posted 15 June 2006 - 10:05 PM

That may just be because you're in California though. Aren't there normally a lot more Powerclips out there and a lot more Crossbows out here (meaning east coast/NJ)? I use a Powerclip when playing with my friends that use anything from NFs to 2ks and there isn't constant action at all. I think warx was right on target with the Lucky Charms comparison. I've never experienced CA Nerf but I think it's a lot more fast-paced than eastern wars.


I've only ever nerfed with one powerclip in play, and that's Speed form the black knights. I meant that if there is a good ballance, Pistol users, Multi-shot mid range weapons, and sharpshooters all on the field of play at once and the setting allows for active movement, rather than camping you're going to see a more fast paced gameplay.

My clan isn't all that ballanced, we usualy out range all our opponets, but we still have a fast paced experience; that is primairly thanks to the UBS system, and that other than a couple of members we still keep on the move, mainly because at most locations we play, avaiable cover doesn't provide enough cover for most of the people playing, unless you are a stick like Falcon (who could hide behind a stop sign and be invisible).

I think Seijin Said it best about high accuracy blasters when we talked about how I spent a whole round without shooting him once: "it's sooo accurate that i can just step to the side and it misses". Also When behind cover I've been shot in the ass or some other slightly exposed apendage (feet mostly) because i Was staying in one place. In other words, a moving nerfer is a safer nerfer than a hiding one at most of the west coast wars I've been to.

I admit there are low times, usualy they are twards the end of a round and there's only a couple of members on each team and the feild of play is really big.

Basicaly my view is that quality nerf rounds rely on these things:

Ballance of Players (both in experience and weaponry)

Active players (hiding behind the same peice of cover gets you nowhere)

A location that has a good blend of Open space and decent cover:(good examples are Both Cullen Elementary's urban grid and the adjacent park, we've used both @ various CAFFs and YANOs, Adding cover to a location by bring plastic trash cans works well)

Guts: Not being afraid to run out there and risk getting hit. I usualy am the first member of my team out of the round, but I certanly do enough damage that it's worth it.

And having the attitude that it's still just Nerf and that you are playing for FUN.

and That's my Rant.

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Edited by baghead, 15 June 2006 - 10:08 PM.

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Posted 17 June 2006 - 11:48 PM

These are cool stories and believe just about all of them :)

I was just wondering, though, if any of you guys can run up a wall?... OR a flip on the ground?
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Posted 18 June 2006 - 12:44 AM

SG dude, My friend did, read incedent 1. to find out more.

Incedent 1.---

A couple of my friends and I were at my school and just F-ing around with some well-modded, by me, nerf guns. We shot all these action shot with our phones and it was pretty sweet but then it got boring so we made some rules and got a war going (this was 3 on 3 so it wasn't that huge). My freidn and I were chasing these two other guys and my other friends were doing some stupid face-off thing. Anyways, the two we were chasing (one is just a pretty in-shape kid and the other, like a super athelet) the acrobat is super light also so he ran up a car and slid down the side barely moving the thing making my friend miss all three of his shots (he had a mav and a double NF). My other friend DID do a backflip of these bleechers, fell to the ground (making me miss all my frickn' shots!!!), and then scrambled up and tried to shoot me. I happened to slip backwards and shoot at the same time- we both missed. By then I'm thinking that we all suck at this. In the end, My team won, but it was sick how many things happened in that war. I have trouble beliving this myself, so I do understand if you don't.

Incedent2.---

I made my titan into a loser and have fallen in love with it evr since. I spent like 20 min. with 3 straight edges just making the barrel straight and now I added this pin in the front so I can line it up with the line that go's down the top of the gun and made it EVEN MORE acuarate. This thing can go around 150', remain acurate 125'-ish, and remain painfull at about 100'.
Ok, so for the story, We were at the same school as before and at that place I know how to get on the roof. It was 8 on 1 (me as the 1) and I sniped everyone and beat them all without them even relizing I was on the roof!! It's was just funny as hell for me when I got down from my perch and they were really pissed at me... All the more reason I love my Snip-Titan!

Edited by Powersniper{}, 18 June 2006 - 01:02 AM.

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Posted 18 June 2006 - 09:49 AM

Inner Nerf, huh? I've noticed that whenever I shoot from the hip, I get headshots. Proof:

1) A couple years ago, my friend and I had bought a set of the Nerf dart blaster pens, and we were having a duel in my driveway. The dart pens are pretty low powered, so we weren't getting hit all too much. At one point, I walked around his car and had the little blaster in my hand in the unfolded setting, how you're supposed to write with it. I shot from the hip without aiming, just brought my hand up and squeezed the trigger, and hit my friend dead center in the forehead.

2) Just a few weeks ago, May 29th, I think it was, there were three of us having a Nerf war in my basement. The way my basement is set up, there's a long room with furniture around the edges, and then a train of rooms branching off of that. There aren't many places to hide in there, although there are some dark and narrow rooms in the train causing teams of people to have to walk single file. One guy was using my then-lightly-modded Nite Finder, while the other was using my lightly-modded Maverick, and I had my Buzz Bee Double Shot shotgun (For those of you who complain about it, mine works great . . . I get some pretty decent ranges and accuracy with it, plus I just like the automatically ejecting shells). Since I had recently busted up my knee, I was sitting in a rolling chair in the long room and the NF guy was standing behind me, while the Mav guy was standing in the stairwell. I shot my Double Shot from the hip and hit the Mav guy square in the forehead with it.
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#36 Paloose

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Posted 19 June 2006 - 03:47 PM

These are cool stories and believe just about all of them :)

I was just wondering, though, if any of you guys can run up a wall?... OR a flip on the ground?


I can't run up a wall, but I can step off of a wall and do a flip. And I can do a flip on the ground.
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Posted 20 June 2006 - 02:04 PM

A few of the Knights and i thow in some Parkour elements when nerfing. but that's mostly techniques for vauting over rails and things since we play around elementary school portables, so getting over rails is a necessity. PK is all about smooth, fluid motion, with no breaks or stops, so I;'ve looked around the Parkour websites to try to find the best way to get over a bar and keep running. But runing up walls and flimming around doesn't seem all that effective to me. Now, diving rolls; that's some effective shit.

Come out of getting over a rail to find that there was an opponent sitting around the corner you just passed, you can decide to go into a roll instea of landing on your feet. Keeps you moving, and makes you a harder target to hit. They take a shot, miss, and then you get up out of the roll, turn around and shoot them while they're re-priming/reloading.

About So-Cal:
Like Bags saud, we don't have many full-autos in use. We have a CRAPLOAD of Airtech 3000's, and a lot of Lanard Blast Bazookas. Talk about opposite sides of the spectrum. Then, there are a number of Quadded 2k's running around, a number of Singled 2k's, a Secret Shot 2 here or there, a crossbow (usually just one, sometimes two, but we DO have them out here), two or three splitfires (and steadily growing), a couple Manta Rays, and an absolute ASSLOAD of Nite Finders strewn about the field.

This is a list based on what is typically seen at a YANO/CAFF/World Conquest. That's a combo of the Knights, NARF, and the Nerfhaven Regulars like Cxwq,Spoon (sorta...), Rawray7, AnyaSeijin, Daniel, and more.

So yeah...we've got variety. And that's exactly what makes our wars to fact-paced. Sure, the overabundance of LBB"s makes for a few standoffs here and there, because both people are packing the same range capabilities, so neither wants to shoot first in the event that they'd miss. But we've got all sorts of mid-to-lower range stuff walking the field, so when someone gets in a standoff, it's not uncommon for one of them to get mauled in the back by a Powerclip, Splitfire, or Dual NF's. Heck, Airtech 3k's aren't the longest range guns out there; they're mid-range beasts with a SICK rate of fire. 80' isn't the upper end of the range Spectrum, but it sure as hell does damage.

So like it's been said before, balance is achielved through variety. Sometimes we've managed to have teams chosen by dividing weaponry. One crossbow on one team, one crossbow on the other. One Manta Ray on one team, one on the other. One quadded 2k to each, two LBB's to each, one AT 3k to each. All you have to do to diversify your group is lay a variety of weaponry in front of a new guy. He picks one. When it doesn't uite work out for him, don't lay all the gun in front of him again. Ask him what the gun lacked that he found himself needing. If he piacked up a Secret Shot 2 and found himself needing a higher rate of fire, hand him an Airtech 3k. If then he comes back saying he could use a little more range, hand him a Quadded 2k. Just move to extremes of what they're asking for, and eventually you'll come to the middle, and he/she'll end up with the best possible gun for themself. I've done this wigh nearly all of my group. Some of them ended up sticking with the first gun they picked up. Others have moved around from Long-range guns to full auto and back. I've landed two clan members on Quadded Airtech 2k's. They'll never touch anything else, because it works best of them. I've also got two members running single (one of them will on occasion pick up a second) Nite Finders. And hell, it works. I've got one guy packing a Powerclip with two clips and a Dart Tagger sidearm. Sure, his range capabilities suck, but the kid's so fast, he could be 100' away from you and still hit you, because he'll be where you are not much slower than a dart would be if fired from where he was by a titan... I've got another player using a Big Salvo that he loads 3 darts into each barrel, and pulls the trigger back all the way. Let's see YOU dodge 12 darts.

So, in short, diversifying the playing field is key to making things fast-paced. First time we faced off against the Narfers last year, at Fall CAFF, I lost count of how many singled 2k's were on their side of the field. Now, there are only maybe 2 of them around. And things are a HELL of a lot quicker when we all come to play.

So no, any urban legends tha have sprung up about Poerclips all over the west coast here, are bullshit.
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Posted 28 June 2006 - 08:38 PM

Ok, heres my story.

I had a lot of nerf wars in my college dorm this last year, and on one of our first wars, I had an amazing matrix-style shot.

I was being chased down a hallway by some chick with a nitefinder. at the end of the hallway was a flight of stairs that was about 6 stairs down. As I reached the stairs, I lept for the landing at the bottom, turned in midair and fired. I landed on my side, and didnt see the hit, but everyone else did. Apparently, I hit her square in the chest. It falls under that "wasnt thinking and did something stupid, taking a ridiculously lucky shot in the process" category.
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