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[J cobbers]

Beyond the normal jaw dropping and drooling I do have a few questions I believe are unanwered.

1) Is there a chance that Talio, OMC or Groove could post a larger version of the pictures of these guns? I'd like to see a little more detail so I can drool over them a bit more. I am assuming the pictures posted at the start of the thread were resized to fit better on the board, if not no biggie.

2) How do you prime the front blaster on the Longshot? Does it have a seperate mechanism or is it primed by some internal mechanism by the larger main gun?
Also how do you load this gun, is it like you normal front loading blaster, or does it too have an internal loading mechanism?

3) How do you attach/detach the front gun on the LS?

4) What is the feasability of using stephan's on the LS? If these new darts don't have a collar, then they ought to be like a stephan with an suction cup head, and therefore a simple conversion.

5) Do either of the clip styles on the Mag Strike and LS have built in air restriction like a Power Clip's x shaped post bases?

6) The main barrel on the LS, does it extend through the front gun as one contious barrel with the detachable gun acting as a shroud in part, or is in segments with the front section detaching along with the front gun? If it detaches, is there an actual seal between the two halves of the main barrel, or do the two halves just line up close together?

Note: If the barrel is in two pieces, I'm thinking screw putting the two halves together, integrate an at2k or something on the top of the front gun.

[davidbowie]

Parapsycho, you can attach bits of velcro to stefan tips if you want to use, say, the longshot in a dart tag war.

Yes, I'm also wondering about the barrel on the LS, and whether it extends out when the second gun is detached.

[flashflint]

I was going to make a comment similar to one of J_cobbers. If the the LS has a box clip wouldent it be steafen ready out of the box?

[Nerfster12345]

Yes it would

[nerfer34]

I am sorry if this has already been brought up but are both parts to the Longshot spring poweres?

[Black Wrath]

I am sorry if this has already been brought up but are both parts to the Longshot spring poweres?

Most definitely.

[One Man Clan]

Yes it would

APPLAUD this man! Only been here for a short time and HE can understand basic concepts. AMEN!

also,

NO larger pics

Longshot front blaster is primed with the yellow cocking mechanism like a shotgun in the front.

it twists off the front

I'm not answering about stefans out the box b/c if you don't get it by now, you don't deserve to know.

The clips have exactly the same "x's" that the PC clips do

The main barrel does NOT extend more than just a bit to make a connection with the front blaster.

[rotoryfan]

The main barrel does NOT extend more than just a bit to make a connection with the front blaster

I think I understand what you're saying, but just to be clear, are you saying that the front blaster barrel links with the other barrel, or that it is below the barrel?

sorry to bother you with such a lame question, but if i'm going to buy this, I need to be sure it's what i want.

~rotoryfan

[Groove]

I think I understand what you're saying, but just to be clear, are you saying that the front blaster barrel links with the other barrel, or that it is below the barrel?

sorry to bother you with such a lame question, but if i'm going to buy this, I need to be sure it's what i want.

~rotoryfan

It's below the main barrel.

-Groove

[crackshot]

For those wanting larger pics, just copy them into MS word and enlarge them. You'd be surprised the detail you can see, even though the resolution isn't higher.
-cs

[rotoryfan]

i'll try that crackshot. thanks

*EDIT* after looking closely using CS' advice, i noticed that there are two barrels. not that no one noticed this. i also reallized that the purpose of the blaster attaching to the other barrel (as in being just below the other barrel) is so that if you already have your sight on a stationary target, you can get multiple hits while only needing to aim once, instead of aiming with the LS, fire, aim with the secondary pistol then fire. it is just taking further advantage of the bi-pod.

Edited by rotoryfan, 01 March 2006 - 09:09 PM.

[Ryan201821]

Sorry if htis has been already covered but I wanted to knwo about how much you think these guns will cost?

[rotoryfan]

Sorry if htis has been already covered but I wanted to knwo about how much you think these guns will cost?

ok, i'm tolerant of that question, its 30$ each. but if you actually read the article, you wouldn't need anyone to tell you. its just been asked that many times bro.

[Crappy Nerfer]

Sorry if htis has been already covered but I wanted to knwo about how much you think these guns will cost?

ok, i'm tolerant of that question, its 30$ each. but if you actually read the article, you wouldn't need anyone to tell you. its just been asked that many times bro.

Don't let 'em off easy. Fucking flame 'em. I, personally, and many others have already answered that god damned question in this one thread alone.

[Ryan201821]

crappy nerfer why don't you chill the hell out i really didin't feel like spending forever to read 11 pages

[Forsaken angel24]

My only question is: Is the range of the long shot going to be worth the size of the beast? Considering it is spring powered, is it then fair to say that after modded we cannot expect any more than 100 feet? What are the odds the plunger shaft is going to be larger than the X-bow?

[Agent X10]

Well it apparently detaches into two guns, or whatever, so I'm sure using it that way would cut down the size. I would hope that we could expect more than 100' out of it considering that OMC I believe said that stock it seemed to get better range than a PC (and that would be better than 50', or so, wouldn't it?). The X-bow doesn't get that much stock, although I guess it shoots arrows at that might have something to do with it.

[Crappy Nerfer]

Well it apparently detaches into two guns, or whatever, so I'm sure using it that way would cut down the size. I would hope that we could expect more than 100' out of it considering that OMC I believe said that stock it seemed to get better range than a PC (and that would be better than 50', or so, wouldn't it?). The X-bow doesn't get that much stock, although I guess it shoots arrows at that might have something to do with it.

He never said the Long Shot out performed the Powerclip. He said:

"For the record, we have no info on ranges or anything like that. Nothing to measure with, but by sight I think the Magstrike out performed a PC."

[davidbowie]

the longshot is about a yard long, right? That's really not that big. KISS is a bit longer than that, and pretty comfortable at the shoulder.

I want to buy this gun when it comes out, but I don't know if I quite want to drop $30 on it.

[Agent X10]

He never said the Long Shot out performed the Powerclip. He said:

"For the record, we have no info on ranges or anything like that. Nothing to measure with, but by sight I think the Magstrike out performed a PC."

Oh, sorry, my mistake in reading it. Something I'm wondering about the Longshot is that with the clip system, it seems like it'd be hard to do a barrel mod on it, but of course, we don't know the construction of it yet. Edit: Also, it's one good thread that can bring Gunny D back from the dead.

Edited by Agent X10, 02 March 2006 - 06:05 PM.

[euphemism]

Since the plastic is used to protect the air bladder would that mean that we could replace it?

If by it you mean the plastic then... sure? You could replace it but why? If you mean the bladder then yes you probably can if you can find a better bladder. Since the bladder is outside of the main body of the gun it would be much easier than in a PC or WF/RF20.

[murakumo32]

The MS looks similar to the DT in some ways, and the gave me an idea. Think PVC stock attached to bottom of the handle of the DT gun to add stability, accuracy, and just plain coolness of a stock.

Back to the subject at hand, I would imagine that the MS would get either more range or more shots since the bladder seems larger than the PC bladder. Would having a larger valve increase the range by increasing air output? Or will it just waste air?

[EastCoastNerfer]

i really didin't feel like spending forever to read 11 pages

Even though the first time someone answered that was at the Top of page two, you were going to have to read 11 page? Man, that's harsh.

However, to put some constructiveness into this, here's my breakdown of the LS:



1. Maximum and minimum lengths of stock, estimated.
2. Estimated height of clip based on how tall it should be for stability purposes in the stock, looks too tall to fit properly in the firing chamber, so it's probably shorter.
3. NF/FF/Scout-type hadles, with which you can estimate the size of the gun.
4. Width of clip, around 3 in.
5. Length of Front-Mounted Gun, from here on out, FMG for short. Looks about to be the same size as a Firefly and looks to operate similarly, but with all the parts backwards.
6. Knob and open cuts in side of scope suggest that the scope is adjustable, although probably not to a great degree or with much/if any zooming power.
7. Holes in casing that you can see through, as previously stated by others, means room for integrations.
8. Bi-pod swings up, apparantly making a fore-grip for assault-style use.
9. Cocking mechanism for FMG, similar to Firefly and Dart Tag guns
10. You can see the little connect-y nub that stems from the main LS gun. It's the non-translucent orange cylinder popping out.
11. Seam of FMG and main LS gun, incase you can't find it.

Personally, I can't see both barrels, but I'm sure they're there if Groove and OMC said so.

To me, it seems like the LS will be about 4-5 NFs + a Firefly in length, meant as a s|\|iper-type weapon and possibly an assault rifle too, but with a slower RoF than air, but faster than current plungers, with only the main gun. Then, when the FMG mounted on, it turns into a losing only (unless you prefer to hoist your gun up into a vertical position every time you want to turn a coner with less chances of being shot, or like to get your long barrel snagged in stuff you don't want it to, so you have to yank it out). By itself, the FMG looks like another Firefly, but I could be wrong.

Now for those of you who think it looks like the Battle Rifle from Halo 2, look at this:



See that? To me, it looks awfully different and the Helgast Assault Rifle from Killzone is a more similar firearm:



Edit: Cx/OMC/Groove/anyone know why it auto-changes "s|\|iper" with a real n to "loser" ?

Edited by EastCoastNerfer, 09 March 2006 - 11:15 PM.

[ElvenNerfer]

Sweet! Nice post, OMC. Did Hasbro give us any ETA less ambiguous than "Fall 2006?"

[TT]

Before I go on, I'd like to go ahead and mention that I got this idea from Devious, and EastCoastNerfer.



I pretty much used Devious' dart measurement idea, along with EastCoast's idea to slap it in photo form just so people don't have to ask the same questions over and over again.

As you can see,the gun length is around 33" long. and the estimated plunger length is around 3", assuming the clips are 3" in length.

Edited by //T\\, 09 March 2006 - 08:23 PM.