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#1 cxwq

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Posted 19 May 2003 - 10:01 PM

I currently have three guns in pieces on my workbench and not all that much time. I'd like to get your preference for the order in which I should attack these things. I expect to get one of them added to the mods section within a week or so, the others will take two to three weeks (or more) to finish.

So... which mod writeup do you want to see first?
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#2 m4rk

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Posted 19 May 2003 - 10:50 PM

sharpshooter 2 cause my friend has 1
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Posted 20 May 2003 - 04:30 AM

First Shot, only because I have five and am still experimenting with marginal success...maybe you can find the winning combo. Thanks in advance!

p.s.; The First Shot is the only spring gun my six year old can cock on his own. (He can pump his 1500, but only two times.)

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#4 cxwq

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Posted 20 May 2003 - 10:18 AM

Well naturally I'm gonna mod your Jango Fett blaster next, I just don't know if I'm going to do a writeup for that one so I'm not going to tell anybody else about it.

Uh... yeah.

I'm curious why people are voting xbow. Is it because you don't like the way current xbow mods are written up or because you'd like to see something completely new for the gun?
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#5 Jangadance

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Posted 20 May 2003 - 12:15 PM

I would like to see one for the First Shot. The First Shot is a new pistol that people can actually go out and buy off the shelves, then modify. Instead of seeing a good writeup for the LnL or something, then looking on ebay for one for a month. Not to mention, these suckers are cheap- If I could buy a couple more and make them all handy little pistols, I would be much more happy than if I bought an LnL for the price of those 5 First Shots or something.
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#6 LiKnSmAkScOmIn

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Posted 20 May 2003 - 05:11 PM

I think a first shot would be good for now, since people can get them off the shelves and can actually use your mod instead of just staring and drooling at their comp screen :)
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#7 Zero Talent

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Posted 20 May 2003 - 05:47 PM

I'd like to see what you'd do to a Crossbow. Probably just brasseage, but I never know. You do, I assume. Aside from that, the other mods seem a bit too simple... If you're going to do anything fancy on the Crossbow, that is. Yakman's mod pretty much answers any barrel relocation issues already.

But hey, it's your choice, now isn't it?
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Posted 20 May 2003 - 05:59 PM

I'd like to see a SSII. I'd like to see a multi-barrel mod out there, but if you single it, I guess that's okay.
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Posted 20 May 2003 - 09:08 PM

I think that you should do the first shot first since they are available and then you should do the SSII next. I dont have a X-bow so that writeup wont help me at all. If you do get a successful mod on the Jango Fett blasters I think you should post it. I couldnt find any mods for it when I had mine.
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#10 cxwq

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Posted 20 May 2003 - 09:21 PM

I'd like to see what you'd do to a Crossbow. Probably just brasseage, but I never know. You do, I assume.

As a point of fact, I do.

I'm going to craft a plunger shaft replacement out of various metals.

I'm going to craft a plunger head replacement with a more durable and efficient o-ring design.

I'm going to replace the spring with one that will do the job without banding.

I'm going to reinforce the case to withstand the force exerted on it by the new spring.

I'm going to make a telescoped brass breech-loading barrel similar to my Max Shot mod but with an extra level of nesting to get every last bit of power out of this thing.

I'm going to do the above with readily available materials and describe it such that any fool with a local hardware store and $10 can repeat my mod.

But it seems the First Shot is winning...
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#11 IronRhino

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Posted 20 May 2003 - 09:53 PM

:Snip:

Holy crap, do that instead.
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#12 Zero Talent

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Posted 20 May 2003 - 10:31 PM

...I'm going to do the above with readily available materials and describe it such that any fool with a local hardware store and $10 can repeat my mod.

Hmm, I'd like to see the O-ring design. I've done.. Well, everything there except the telescoping barrel and homemade plunger head, but I haven't done it that well (Probably not worth documentation)... So I'd love to see your ideas.

But if it's the First Shot, it doesn't matter much.. It will be on the presses soon enough. Good luck with your mods Cx.
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Posted 21 May 2003 - 09:51 PM

X-Stream.
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#14 cxwq

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Posted 21 May 2003 - 11:38 PM

Well, I just finished the Jango Fett blaster so I'll work on the First Shot next.

I'll write up the Jango Fett as time permits but here's the short version.

The air volume in the gun was extremely low so they used a pole for air delivery. I knew I'd need to increase volume and speed of air delivery to make it compatible with micro stefans and a proper barrel.

Stretched the spring by about 50% and heat tempered it.

Increased the plunger travel by about 50% by reducing the plunger head length (yeah, funky design) by 1.75" and replacing the plunger shaft to allow for the longer travel.

Gave it a nested brass barrel.

Before: ~12' flat with Nerf micros
After: ~30+' flat with stefan micros

Not quite an LnL or SSII competitor but adequate range for a sidearm.
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Posted 21 May 2003 - 11:44 PM

yeah, the re-enforcing is a good idea. my x-bow has bolts running through the case to support the back wall that the spring is compacted against. also, if you'd like me too, i'll show you how i did my breech, so you can use/improve it.

edit: i figure you'd like to see inside the gun that haunts your very nerfing existence.
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#16 cxwq

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Posted 23 May 2003 - 09:48 PM

Ray, be glad that you're younger and faster cause my xbow is gonna rock yours.

Damn, now I have ANOTHER gun open on my work bench. When will the insanity stop?!
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Posted 24 May 2003 - 06:41 PM

i wanna see u mod that two towers crossbow so that i know whether to get one or not
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#18 cxwq

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 03:31 PM

As soon as I finish my Artificial Intelligence project I'm going to complete the First Shot and upload the writeup with range test results.

Since I've more or less finished a preliminary TTTBow mod I'll go ahead and seal that up and range test it next, though that gun will probably get re-modded in the future when I have time to play with it more. I'm not convinced that barrel-replacement is the only thing I can do with this gun.

After that I'll do the xbow and ssII in parallel. I want to have them both done by Armageddon so all four of these writeups should be done in a month or less.

I already bought the threaded rod, nuts, washers, brass tubing (3 sizes), brass sheet, o-rings, plunger head, and spring for the xbow mod so it's just down to the measuring, cutting, and final assembly for that one.

The ssII will unfortunately have to be a single-barrel mod because my air valve housing is cracked in a couple places and I don't want to deal with trying to repair it. I think the ssII can be a LnL killer anyhow so I'm going to turn it into my sidearm.

Hum. Come to think of it, the First Shot could end up being an LnL killer too. Much fun.
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#19 Zero Talent

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Posted 28 May 2003 - 02:19 PM

I already bought the threaded rod, nuts, washers, brass tubing (3 sizes), brass sheet, o-rings, plunger head, and spring for the xbow mod so it's just down to the measuring, cutting, and final assembly for that one.


Tell me more of this plunger head.. Like its normal use and such. I can wait for the writeup, just be sure to include it. This was always the part that annoyed me.
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#20 cxwq

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Posted 30 May 2003 - 09:59 PM

Finished my First Shot mod and tested it today. Working on the writeup now but spoilers follow for the impatient...

Max: 67', 5"
Avg: 55', 0"
Min: 45', 8"

Definitely holds it's own against any spring pistol out there. The extremely solid catch mechanism is a plus for people who want to run around with it cocked and holstered. Overall I think I like it better than the LnL.
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#21 ItalionStallion

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 07:47 AM

Do you think you could put a jango fett blasters tutorial on? I know my friend has been desperatley trying to get one.

And if its not to late, i think you should go with the SSII. Mainly because its probably the most common nerf gun, therefore the most people would use its mod.
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#22 cxwq

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 12:40 PM

Funny how voting had pretty much stopped and then between 11:30 last night and 9:00 this morning the SSII got 4 votes...

I'm going to do the xbow and SSII in parallel as soon as I close up the TTTBow and test it. They'll all be done in short order.

I'll write something about the jango fett blaster in a couple days.
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