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[rawray7]

Well...i've decided that i have way too many cool tactical nerfing ideas that aren't really possible or practical, so i am going to make a movie. it's going to be a complete jon woo/matrix ripoff, but with nerf. i think the premise of the story is going to be something along the lines of Hasbro's Engineer's vs. the general nerf populace. a storming of the Hasbro Headquarters with much indoor/urban warfare. i've got lots of ideas for scenes, but i realized that 1) i don't have enough interested people in my neighborhood or at my school to make a decent film. 2) i don't have the arsenal to create the scenes i want. (i.e. - i want some manta ray action, some dual LnL pimpation, and some wildfire storms.) i think that if i were to get around to this at all, i would host a filming session somewhere in the LA area, for anyone interested, and it would probably last morning to night. this would only be possible during the summer, and it would mean i would have to write a script/caste prior to the event. i'm thinking that the movie won't exceed 20-30 minutes, seeing how hard it is to get a bunch of nerfers together for more than one day. i know people with the hardware and the software, who would love to film it for me. well...right now i am just looking for ideas/comments/volunteers. casting wise, i would probably need 20 different "actors" and i can find a teenage camera crew in a flash. in the story, there will probably be about three main characters: Me, steve(if he wants to, casted only because he looks so badass), and one other person. if we were to follow the matrix closely, i might be able to get a girl to do the job, but that would mean putting a nerfer out of a main spot. i think spoon's squad would be perfect for the characters of the Hasbro workers. Cxwq could be a Morpheus type person if he's up for it. spoon could be the main bad guy. an army of halfling nerfers could come in handy (i.e. my good friends brian, kyle and mason). well...tell me what you guys think.


edit: in the casting of the third part girl possibility, i had forgotten all about Julie and Steph. i think Steph would make a better engineer/fed, but Julie could make the third person if she was dying to be that character. i was trying to set up an old vs. young thing (with the exception of Cxwq as morpheus), but that may not work. we could always make captain suave morpheus and Cx can be co-leader of the Hasbros.

[cxwq]

You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because he expects to wake up. Ironically, that's not far from the truth.

[rawray7]

julie, you can be that part if you want to. if you don't, then you can take pictures or be a Hasbro engineer, or whatever. i'll try to figure out enough jobs/characters for about 25 people.

[Ash]

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I would comment on this normally... but...

Well, I dont' want to say anything, but it doesn't seem like the best concept for a film... ok, i'll stop now.

[Spoon]

If I'm in it, I have to be a bad guy. Who totally kicks ass.

I love the idea of making a nerf movie, but if you're gonna do it with this kind of plot, you have to make it somewhat tongue-in-cheek otherwise it'll be just stupid to most people.

Oh, and if you're thinking of a 25-30 minute film, you'd better be thinking of at least a week of 12 hour shoot days. You'd better shorten it to 5-10 mins, trust me.

I'm sorry, but the film student in me is starting to kick in.....if you're seriously thinking of doing this email me and we can talk about it. I don't know what you're filmmaking experience is, but the concept of a nerf movie has always been cool to me.

[rawray7]

ash: yeah, that plot's pretty dumb, i was trying to think of something with a smaller army vs. a bunch of 'feds', and then i read the post about 'hasbro engineers modding guns'.

spoon: yeah, i think it will be very tongue-in-cheek, using that plot or not. i forgot you were the supzor film student, i'll let you be the voice of reason. i wasn't planning on making the day with all of the socal nerfers the only filming day. i was planning multiple days of filming with less people, for things that won't require everyone. 25-30 minutes is ridiculously long, seeing as how i can't have a week of shoot days. i think 15 minutes is the highest it will possibly go. this whole thing was sort of on a whim of mine since YANO, so i really haven't thought everything through. my filmmaking experience isn't much, so i will need your help a lot. right now i am working on ideas for specific scenes, and how to pull them off. later this week i am going to write a script. i am going to try to stay away from a lot of talking, because i can just imagine it turning out horriblely lame. i want to stay away from the "hey, there's some aliens" "we better go have sex with them" type things. (that's from norm mcdonald's 'dirty work', by the way, in his parody 'men in black: who like to have sex with things'. maybe you have to see the movie for it to be funny) anyhoo, yeah, right now i just want to pull off some sweet matrix-type scenes, the plot can change dramatically for all i care.

[Groove]

Doing cool matrix dodges and dispensing proper ass-whooping is what Team Woo is all about. Although we are centered in VA, let me know if you need any help with anything.

I could work on the plot, or make a new one, if you'd like. I'm pretty good with plots and story outlines (that's what I do with DbF) so let me know if you wanna do something like that.

[Spoon]

Ray: Where do you live again? Perhaps we could get together and script something out. I think the fight choreography will be harder to plan out than the script will. I think it could be pretty awesome though, even if the whole thing centers around one big fight scene (which, with a 5-10 min film, we might have to do). I just need to be careful to not try and "take over" you're idea. :>

[Black Blade]

I'm making a nerf gangsder movie with my friends were a 1/4 finshed.

[VACC]

Spoon, on Apr 14 2003, 07:31 AM, said:

Ray: Where do you live again? Perhaps we could get together and script something out. I think the fight choreography will be harder to plan out than the script will. I think it could be pretty awesome though, even if the whole thing centers around one big fight scene (which, with a 5-10 min film, we might have to do). I just need to be careful to not try and "take over" you're idea. :>

Dude, don't let him do it. Don't let Spoon touch your film. He'll get symbalism and metaphor all over it. Believe me, it's a pain in the ass to clean up after him.

VACC

[Batman]

Lol. I just got into makin a movie with my friends here in the middle of nowhere. I don't have a part in the movie, But I get to do some tight stuff. First, my friend, in some odd way, ran across a several thousand dollar editing program, he wants me and him to do that. Considering I'm the other computer geek at School with him. Second, because he knows I play with my weapons of mass destruction, my guns will be used in the movies, mostly because of how realistic they look because of the paint jobs. And the coolest thing of all. I get to chorigraph the gun slingin scenes. Which is totally awsome. Anyway, sense that was kinda on subject, I figureed I'd tell you all. Now, back to direct subject. Ray, I'd come over summer if I knew the dates, where the heck it would be done, and if I'm going to need to find a hotel or something. (Cuz I don't wanna drive back up here late at night all by myself, even though I might be able to get some friends to come, all the more reason, lol) So, email me, pm me, or whatever, and keep me informed. Later.

[rawray7]

i'm up in pasadena. batman, i'll work out dates when i get everything else figured out. spoon, i kind of like the idea of everything possibly just revolving around one big fight scene. right now, i am thinking that the first scene is going to be somewhat of a drive-by nerfing. basically, the good guys come over to the bad guys building, and bust a drive by on the guards on the outer perimeter. LA is full of parking structures to pull this off in. my friend matt already signed onto the movie, and he's got a white volvo five seat sedan that would make a great good-mobile. plus, since he wants to film, he'd let me drive it. i've had a few other people say they'd help me out too. the fight choreography is going to be super hard, and that's mainly what i am concentrating on right now; mostly designing cool moves, how to film them, and where to film them. Groove, write me plot if you want, i can't promise i'll use it, but it would be greatly appreciated.

blackblade: i want to see your gangster movie when your done. i doubt their will be much gangster in my movie, all though i might have to throw in some "shizzle"s or "bitch, nah"s for the hell of it.

whatever the set up is, i would really like the good vs. evil to revolve around older people vs. younger people. and the really young ones possibly as minions of the bad guys. the older people will probably be outfitted like businessmen.


EDIT: i am also looking for three to four songs that can go with the movie. two or three should be action-movie type songs (preferably not overused) and one or two for the intro, credits and such.

[neonerfer]

I always knew I'd be someone's badass sidekick somewhere along the road. I'd love to do it, so long as I get to wear a trench coat. I'm hoping to get my BBB looking more like an assault rifle, realistic looking stock, maybe a paintjob, and I'd just look way to badass with that and dual black LNL's. Anyways, I'm in. For music, maybe a few Metallica songs would work well, or perhaps Rage Against the Machine.

[GunnedDown]

Hrm.. How about a scene with two guys wearing trench coats and sunglasses walk up to each other, draw an LNL simultaneously, and put it to each other's head, all to the matrix lobby scene music, and then they shoot each other in the head. How about that for an opening scene. Yeah, like, one dude is running from the other in a park, and then after like a minute, he stops, and turns around, and then they do the LNL thing.

I can't really make it out to SoCal, but, I can help you organize the plot like Groove offered to.

[neonerfer]

GunnedDown, on Apr 15 2003, 12:36 AM, said:

Hrm.. How about a scene with two guys wearing trench coats and sunglasses walk up to each other, draw an LNL simultaneously, and put it to each other's head, all to the matrix lobby scene music, and then they shoot each other in the head. How about that for an opening scene. Yeah, like, one dude is running from the other in a park, and then after like a minute, he stops, and turns around, and then they do the LNL thing.

I can't really make it out to SoCal, but, I can help you organize the plot like Groove offered to.

Nope.

[Raecroft]

*curses* always west coast never west virginia,always west coast never west virginia,always west coast never west virginia...

[wtrent10]

I'm REALLY interested in this, and would be happy to volunteer, I've got some cool sean (sp) ideas too. But I live in illinois.

[wtrent10]

I've got a lot of experence in the home movies. I'm always trying to make a serious movie or something, but, my friends always back out at the last minute. It really get's me pissed. I'm good with plots, stunts, fights, acting (one of my many specialties), and I always wanted to make a nerf movie and put it in slow-mo. and stuff like that.

[rawray7]

GunnedDown, on Apr 14 2003, 05:36 PM, said:

Hrm.. How about a scene with two guys wearing trench coats and sunglasses walk up to each other, draw an LNL simultaneously, and put it to each other's head, all to the matrix lobby scene music, and then they shoot each other in the head. How about that for an opening scene. Yeah, like, one dude is running from the other in a park, and then after like a minute, he stops, and turns around, and then they do the LNL thing.

Neonerfer, on Apr 14 2003, 06:52 PM, said:

Nope.

i agree with neo. A LnL-Mutalation-Duet doesn't sound very appealing. although, i think the intro scene could be something like a one on one chase scene through a crowded city or park or something.

for all you out-of-staters that want to help, just post or email (rawray7@hotmail.com) any of your comments, scene ideas, plot ideas, war choreography ideas, everything. i'll try to use as much of it as i can.

i'm really glad there is a large amount of interest in this, i'm going to need a lot of help.

[Spoon]

Ray: We should get together in person then sometime, Pomona isn't too far away from me, like 30 mins.

I wonder if a nerf drive by wouldn't come off as just stupid....

This is going completely in the other direction but what if the film revolved around Nerf becoming the nations next spectator sport craze. Improbable of course, but it would give a reason for everyone to be using nerf guns.

[Groove]

Okay, I got a few ideas, I don’t know any other better way to do this, so I’ll post the ideas here.

Untitled Plot Sequence #1:

Overview of the Plot: A man has infiltrated a top secret project at the enemy building (or base) that is supposed to be “the Nerf gun to end all disputes” between the two warring factions (Matrix-esque theme possibility??? Suit-wearing, CIA-looking people VS the “rebels?”). The man is caught in an intense opening chase scene where he is trying to warn his friends of the coming disaster. He manages to get off a cell-phone call to the leader of the “good guys,” only getting off a few words. He is killed by the “bad guys” who were chasing him while trying to finish the message. With only a scrap of the whole picture, the “good guys” decide to raid the enemy complex to find out the cause of their friend’s death (most of the fighting will be done here. 3 gunmen is ideal, in my opinion). In doing so, they find the ultimate weapon their friend tried to warn them about in the first place. Just as they find it, an immensely large groups of enemies find them. The heroes are extremely outnumbered. In the closing scene, the heroes look at each other, nod, and charge the huge enemy force with the newfangled super-weapon, and the screen goes black...

If you want a sample of my camera choreography, here it is.

Opening Scene: A man is seen sprinting down an alleyway (preferably a long alleyway, between two large buildings, [camera is to his back]). He continues to look over his left shoulder repeatedly, attempting to spot his pursuers.
[camera change]: Camera is parallel to a wall near the exit of the alley. The man runs past the camera, not stopping. 5 seconds later, the enemies stop right at the camera, side of their faces to the camera. They very slowly turn their heads in the direction the man ran, and continue after him.

[camera change]: Now this will be a hard shot. An empty street or parking complex of the man sprinting towards the camera, pursuers close behind. He is no longer turning his head back to check and see how far he is from them. Drawing his cell phone, he speed-dials his buddy, and he sputters out only a few key words while trying to catch his breath. He trips, dropping the cellphone, and lying face down on the ground.

[camera change]: The camera is close to the man’s face, on the ground. It reveals the upper-portion of his head, his eyes looking directly at the camera. In the background, the slim figures of his pursuers suddenly get closer and closer.

[camera change]: A shot of the cellphone, with his buddy yelling on the other end, to see if his friend is okay.

[camera change]: The man on the ground is suddenly surrounded by the pursuers. They mutter something about him knowing too much, right before they blow him away with a powerful gun. (PTEG’d AT3k?) The screen darkens...

Tell me what you think, honestly. If you don’t like this plot, I’ve got a few more.

[rawray7]

Spoon, on Apr 14 2003, 08:12 PM, said:

Ray: We should get together in person then sometime, Pomona isn't too far away from me, like 30 mins.

I wonder if a nerf drive by wouldn't come off as just stupid....

This is going completely in the other direction but what if the film revolved around Nerf becoming the nations next spectator sport craze.  Improbable of course, but it would give a reason for everyone to be using nerf guns.

what does pomona have to do with anything? pomona is like 30 minutes away from me too, if that matters. i'm confused about the pomona deal.

the nerf drive wasn't planned on being a ghetto drive by, more of a means of busting into the bad guy facility.

the spectator craze thing sounds okay...but it doesn't really allow for as many riduculously outrageous and un-called-for stunts. also, i don't want to caste an arena of screaming people. i think that the fact that they are using nerf guns should stay completely un-explained.

[rawray7]

GrOOvE, on Apr 14 2003, 08:20 PM, said:

Tell me what you think, honestly. If you don’t like this plot, I’ve got a few more.

dude, that sounds cool. unless i find anything better, i am going to start with that. the only thing i am going to change is the super weapon thing. it's going to be a super-nerfer that they have captured. someone not terribly popular with the nerfing community, someone unsuspecting. like captain suave, or ted, or mason, or superadaquabat(sp). this person, once freed, get's some cool rampage scenes.

[Groove]

Great, I'm glad you like it. Glad you're tweaking it too, it's your movie, after all.

I just hope Spoon knows how to get all those camera angles I described...heh.

[Spoon]

Dammit, why is it that whenever I read "pasadena" my brain automatically decides that pasadena instead should be pomona. Seriously, this isn't the first time this has happened....

The camera angles and how to get them are the jobs of the director and the cinematographer, respectively. The writer simply writes what can be seen and heard onscreen, but stays away from directing the camera. Not that it really matters in a project like this, but just for clarification.....