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#1 Nitrocar

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Posted 24 April 2019 - 12:59 AM

Hey nerf gurus (hopefully) I was wondering on the future of the nerf gun hobby and although I am not an avid fan as many of you are I was wondering why in pursuit of better FPS and dart stability the idea of installing an electric airsoft gearbox in a nerf gun hasnt become popular?? Educate me please? No Im not trying to make an airsoft gun. Nerf has its niche and I believe it should stay there as a safer kid friendly game but Im not a child and I like more power, range and versatility.

Pros: consistent FPS
Adjustable FPS
Flexible power supply (rechargeable batteries, HPA, even propane, green, red or duster gas.

Cons: diy modification required (obviously this only applies to those who want the pros with no work but thats what some of you may capitalize on)
Possibly dangerous due to irresponsible practices (higher FPS, more power, higher rate of fire raises safety concerns)
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#2 Meaker VI

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Posted 25 April 2019 - 10:18 PM

The stampede, vulcan, speedswarm, powerbelle, and swarmfire all use the AEG system. The Cons you're missing are that it's just as expensive and complicated as a premium flywheel and a premium springer combined.

 

With current top-tier flywheel builds (brushless big wheel, daybreak wheels, eclipse, multistage, etc.) you're looking at a FPS of 150-220ish and beyond (multistage brushless I've heard has hit 300+, but that's an insane build). Most users don't need more than 200 FPS in the current meta, and 150 fits most superstock players just fine.

 

Finally, pneumatic builds are easier and no more expensive than an AEG. Airsoft makes them work because flywheels wouldn't work well on the tiny pellets making gas power the best/only option, and because they have such low mass (1/6-1/8th that of a typical nerf dart). They don't take as much power or as massive motors, plungers, and springs.


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#3 Nitrocar

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 08:54 PM

The stampede, vulcan, speedswarm, powerbelle, and swarmfire all use the AEG system. The Cons you're missing are that it's just as expensive and complicated as a premium flywheel and a premium springer combined.
 
With current top-tier flywheel builds (brushless big wheel, daybreak wheels, eclipse, multistage, etc.) you're looking at a FPS of 150-220ish and beyond (multistage brushless I've heard has hit 300+, but that's an insane build). Most users don't need more than 200 FPS in the current meta, and 150 fits most superstock players just fine.
 
Finally, pneumatic builds are easier and no more expensive than an AEG. Airsoft makes them work because flywheels wouldn't work well on the tiny pellets making gas power the best/only option, and because they have such low mass (1/6-1/8th that of a typical nerf dart). They don't take as much power or as massive motors, plungers, and springs.


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#4 Nitrocar

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 09:03 PM

I didnt know that some of them already use the aeg system. The flywheel is new and only since the rival series right? Do you think this is the best way or are there another ways that are better for improving accuracy and power. What do you think the future holds for awesome nerf guns?

I know I may sound like an idiot to a well informed expert or modder. Sorry. Most of my knowledge is not invested into nerf guns xD
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#5 Meaker VI

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:51 PM

I didnt know that some of them already use the aeg system. The flywheel is new and only since the rival series right? Do you think this is the best way or are there another ways that are better for improving accuracy and power. What do you think the future holds for awesome nerf guns?

I know I may sound like an idiot to a well informed expert or modder. Sorry. Most of my knowledge is not invested into nerf guns xD

Flywheel was out with the Nstrike Barricade and in a few blasters even prior to that in the 2000's, but became mainstream with the stryfe in 2013. If you want mid-range power, flywheels are the most efficient (in all of cost, ease of use, and results) way to do it. If you want high-end power full auto, pneumatic is the only way to do it. NERF won't release a real pneumatic capable of high power though, so it's a scratch built proposition ATM.

 

The future is probably laden with more gimmicks and/or flywheel blasters. We'll likely see more rival stuff too. NERF-brand is at a pinnacle though; they can't really push power past their current limit and they've done basically every system they can design. They'll likely keep iterating stuff they've basically done before.


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#6 ILOVENOGGERS

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Posted 02 June 2019 - 04:46 AM

The stampede, vulcan, speedswarm, powerbelle, and swarmfire all use the AEG system. The Cons you're missing are that it's just as expensive and complicated as a premium flywheel and a premium springer combined.

 

With current top-tier flywheel builds (brushless big wheel, daybreak wheels, eclipse, multistage, etc.) you're looking at a FPS of 150-220ish and beyond (multistage brushless I've heard has hit 300+, but that's an insane build). Most users don't need more than 200 FPS in the current meta, and 150 fits most superstock players just fine.

 

Finally, pneumatic builds are easier and no more expensive than an AEG. Airsoft makes them work because flywheels wouldn't work well on the tiny pellets making gas power the best/only option, and because they have such low mass (1/6-1/8th that of a typical nerf dart). They don't take as much power or as massive motors, plungers, and springs.

 

 

are the flywheel blasters annoyingly loud?


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#7 shandsgator8

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Posted 02 June 2019 - 05:30 PM

 

 

are the flywheel blasters annoyingly loud?

In my opinion yes, but you can get used to them.


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#8 Meaker VI

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Posted 03 June 2019 - 04:44 PM

 

 

are the flywheel blasters annoyingly loud?

They're loud, yes. Annoyingly loud is up to your hearing sensibilities.


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