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#1 TantumBull

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 03:11 PM

I have some questions for those who have ordered worker dart on lightake.com. I'm looking to buy some gen2 worker's (not sure what the difference is between gen1 but I've heard good things about gen2's). I want to buy in bulk, so am considering this listing. Are these gen2 though? Because I also found this listing that specifies gen2 in the listing name. However, the price on the second listing isn't as good as I can't but as much at once. The images look identical besides color and quantity. Is there a difference?

 

I also stumbled across Men Gun darts while browsing. I thought these were extinct, I guess they made a new run of them? Can anyone comment on these Men Gun 3.0's?

 

For reference, I'm planning the men guns for flywheels and sometimes the caliburn, and the worker short darts for everything non-flywheel.

 

Thanks in advance


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#2 Daniel Beaver

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 11:15 PM

Men Guns are okay, though they don't fly straight out of higher-powered blasters such as a caliburn.

gen2 workers are news to me, I'm curious to hear what the difference is. The pictures on lightake don't reveal any obvious differences to me.


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 12:38 AM

Men Guns are okay, though they don't fly straight out of higher-powered blasters such as a caliburn.

 

Interesting, I always thought Men-Guns were the pinnacle of China full-lengths. Are there any manufactured full-lengths that work in powerful blasters? I've heard good things about waffles, but I've also heard that the head rubs against the barrel induces quite a bit of excess friction. Maybe certain waffles don't have this problem? There seems to be a million different waffle brands.

 

Edit: Just ordered 1000 gen2's. Hopefully they're good haha. Will report back


Edited by TantumBull, 26 January 2018 - 03:07 AM.

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 07:33 AM

I like the Men-Gun's a lot, they work fine and fly straight in my brass breech Xzeus2, they also work well in my RS with an artifact gold cage(with a brass guide), worker wheels, and hellcats.

 

Both links are gen 2, White and green are gen 2 while yellow are gen 1, there isnt much of a difference between them.

 

Look up Bradley Phillips on YT if you want more info on the darts.


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 10:56 AM

Those are gen 2's. Gen 2 worker darts come in both white and green foam. Gen 1 is only yellow foam. I recommend gen 1 over gen 2 mostly due to durability. Gen 1 has better glue and will last longer. The gen 2 darts have a little thicker foam. The foam thickness, color, and the glue are the only differences I have noticed between the two. The fly great out of 17/32nd brass and 1/2 cpvc. The have a gap between the head and foam which causes a whistling sound in flight but mostly acts as a way to stabilize the dart. They are the most accurate half length dart I have ever used including slugs. They do get a little less velocity due to weight and the gap between the foam and the head. I get 255 using sweet orange dart in my caliburn with a 18 inch barrel and a k31/[k25] spring combo. They same set up gets 240ish with worker darts on average.


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 02:11 PM

Those are gen 2's. Gen 2 worker darts come in both white and green foam. Gen 1 is only yellow foam. I recommend gen 1 over gen 2 mostly due to durability. Gen 1 has better glue and will last longer. The gen 2 darts have a little thicker foam. The foam thickness, color, and the glue are the only differences I have noticed between the two. The fly great out of 17/32nd brass and 1/2 cpvc. The have a gap between the head and foam which causes a whistling sound in flight but mostly acts as a way to stabilize the dart. They are the most accurate half length dart I have ever used including slugs. They do get a little less velocity due to weight and the gap between the foam and the head. I get 255 using sweet orange dart in my caliburn with a 18 inch barrel and a k31/[[k25]] spring combo. They same set up gets 240ish with worker darts on average.

 

Great, well I wasted about 15 bucks ordering 20 50 dart packs instead of the other bulk/white green listings. Friggin China listings. I will try contact them to modify the order but I'm not expecting much. 15 bucks isn't the end of the world, its more the principal. Also kind of my fault for being impatient and ordering before this thread got more replies. 

Thanks for the info!


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 04:55 PM

 

Great, well I wasted about 15 bucks ordering 20 50 dart packs instead of the other bulk/white green listings. Friggin China listings. I will try contact them to modify the order but I'm not expecting much. 15 bucks isn't the end of the world, its more the principal. Also kind of my fault for being impatient and ordering before this thread got more replies. 

Thanks for the info!

Not really a waste. I have 1000 green ones and they still work well. They just don't hold up as well as the 1200 yellow ones I have. They are damn good darts either way. They will not work in a traditional wye though. They work great in my caliburn. I have a 3d printed wye that they feed through super consistently for my rainbow pump and my supermaxx 5k.


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 05:01 PM

Not really a waste. I have 1000 green ones and they still work well. They just don't hold up as well as the 1200 yellow ones I have. They are damn good darts either way. They will not work in a traditional wye though. They work great in my caliburn. I have a 3d printed wye that they feed through super consistently for my rainbow pump and my supermaxx 5k.

 

That's not what I mean, I want gen2's regardless for accuracy reasons. I mean that the only listing that said "gen2" was for 50 darts. There were other white workers listed in 200 dart amounts at a better rate. So If I had bought 5x 200 packs rather than 20x 50 packs I would have saved $15 on the darts that I ordered. I didn't realize until your initial post in this thread that all short white workers are gen2.


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