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[Ice Nine]

ARMAGEDDON XVIII: 2017
Now Recapping on Page 2


Date:
Saturday, 24 June 2017
 
Time:
9:00 AM to 4:00+ PM
(Arrive around 9AM; people like to chat and prep beforehand. First round will start by 9:45AM.)
 
Location:
Stanton Elementary School
725 S Vencino Dr
Glendora, CA 91740
 
Remember, using these locations is a privilege, not a right. Use the golden rule: Don't Be A Dick.
 

 
FAQ

Where and when?
The war is 24 June 2017, from 9:00 to whenever (usually 4:00, but later is not impossible and is in fact a little likely). Location data is available above.

Darts?
Slugs and safer darts only. No metal is preferred but I understand that to maximize attendance while keeping it safe I need to keep this restriction more open. If you do make slugs, use #6 washers and not #8 washers. Use Ryan McNumbers' excellent guide available here if you plan on making slugs. If you use larger ammo, like megas or similar, keep them soft-tipped by the same guidelines as above.
If you are using silicone dome darts, they must be soft tips. Last year people were shooting rocks. Keep total dart weight under 1.3g, too, if you're shooting 1/2" darts.
You are also free to use stock-style darts, obviously. China Darts as reviewed by Cheerios are fine. No FVJ/FVN/whatever type of darts have a rock hard rubber/vinyl tip. The tip of the dart needs to be soft.

Who?
Everyone is welcome to come, veterans and newcomers alike. I'm not going to outright ban people younger than 13, but if you plan on bringing someone who is, you are responsible for them all day and you are especially responsible for them remaining safe (hydrated and wearing eye protection). I will be running this war with the assistance of others (including, but not limited to, Zorn and Apollo256).

What isn't allowed?
With dart restrictions, there isn't as much of a need for blaster regulations. Don't bring Titans shooting micro darts because that's just ridiculous. I and other war council advisors will spot-ban things if you are lasering dudes from a million miles away.

Blaster rules:
HOMEMADE AIRGUNS: Case-by-case basis. It is highly recommended that you talk to me beforehand (send me a PM or something). I'm very understanding.

TITANS: You may use them if they fire missiles (stock or Draconis or whatever) or balls. They must not be firing darts, of any size.

LBB/4B/UMB/SIMILAR: You may use them if they have the functional stock OPRV.

SUPER SOAKERS/SIMILAR: Do not bring them. If they shoot darts, they're too powerful. If they shoot water, people get mad.

SCEPTORS: If you want to use a Sceptor, make it colorful. Make it look as little like a paintball gun as possible. Wrap the tank in denim or something. If you replace the tank or pump, the OPRV must be kept at the same pressure and the tank volume may not be made any larger (stock is about 800cc).

SUPERMAXX 2000/5000/9000: Do whatever. It's fine. I hope you don't blow up your tank.

MELEE WEAPONS: Don't bring anything larger than these (Mashoongas).

SHIELDS: Hits on shields count as hits on you if you plan to use them. I'm nostalgic enough to say that Manta Rays count as actual shields against 1/2" darts, though.

Anything else?
1.) To stop a round for safety reasons, yell out the word "HOLD". If you hear someone call "HOLD", STOP PLAYING IMMEDIATELY. At any time during a round, anyone can call "Hold", which will temporarily stop that round. Players should repeat the call of Hold so that all other players hear, until the round stops completely. If a pedestrian is walking through the field, if a player is injured or if there is some other threat to personal safety, you are obligated to call hold. You can call a hold to pause the game and sort out some issue that is not a matter of personal safety, but do not abuse it.
2.) No barrel taps allowed. Barrel taps are how you absolutely gouge someone with a brass barrel and take out a chunk of skin. Barrel taps are how you break the barrel and bushing off your blaster. You can shoot them from point-blank, or you can ask them to take the hit. Don't touch them with your blaster.
 
 
 

A few important pieces of information:

• I don't anticipate there being a problem with the war site, but if there is, this is the address of the place we will be going as a back-up:
  Ole Hammer Park
  362 N Live Oak Ave
  Glendora, CA 91741
  There is also a school next door named Cullen Elementary we might try as well if we are over in the area.
• Be sure to check the weather forecast before the war. It looks like the heat wave in SoCal will break before the weekend happens, which is good; they estimate it'll have a high of ninety on Saturday, which is consistent with previous years. Be sure to bring (and re-apply) sunscreen and a lot of water. There are drinking fountains on-site.
• There are no available bathrooms at the school. If you need to use the bathroom, there are restaurants two blocks away with available facilities.
• If you need to reach someone the day of the war, for whatever reason, your best shots are posting here in this thread or using the Facebook event or reaching out to the NerfHaven page on Facebook. PMs probably will not work.

 
What gametypes?
Expect to play some carpe testiculum and related gametypes. There will probably be some quick-run deathmatch as well, to suit those people like Gears with a bloodlust that knows no bounds. Last year, speed rounds and freeze tag were big hits, so those will make another appearance. There will be minimal team captain team picking to keep downtime short.

Anything else?
Bring lots of water. I'll probably end up picking up a pallet of water bottles as backup but it does get hot and you will probably be running around so expect to need to drink something.
Bring lots of sunscreen, because no one wants a sunburn now or skin cancer later.
There are a lot of places to eat nearby. Traditionally, people eat at The Hat for lunch, which is conveniently about four blocks away from the war site.
Bring comfortable shoes. You will be running around.

If you have specific questions or concerns, PM me, or post them here, or whatever.
 
***
Attending:
Ice Nine
Zorn's Lemma
JLego
Groove
Zaxbys
Langley
Cannonball
Baghead
Apollo456
Cheerios
Ryan201821
KaneTheMediocre
Daniel Beaver
SeeingRed777 + Jamar + 2
Lam + some friends
Bert81
X-Ecution
alpha99025 + 1
CaliforniaPants
shmmee + some
Avatar of Woe (Brian)
Korned
 
Maybe:
Sublimedom777
Gears
Draconis
Hoongfu
Flyingchicken
Spoon
Mysterio
Juandabomb333
Silly
A Trillion Other People

Edited by Ice Nine, 28 June 2017 - 01:50 PM.

[Lam]

This is going to be my first legit nerf war and I can't wait! Gonna bring some friends along as well!

[SanDiegoNerf]

June is a long time from now.

Edited by SanDiegoNerf, 14 February 2017 - 09:48 PM.

[Ice Nine]

June is a long time from now. I invite everyone to come Visit us in San Diego in the mean time.

 

 

New Nerf San Diego Events.

 

https://sandiegonerf...s.com/events-2/

 

Dude, if you want to host a war, host a war. Don't promote it in here.

 

Rules update: I'm going to ban FVJ darts. No darts with those rock hard rubber/vinyl tips. None of those nipple darts made of the same material. You still have four months to pick up other darts if those are all you have and basically any of the other types of available darts are as good or better.

[Lam]

 

Dude, if you want to host a war, host a war. Don't promote it in here.

 

Rules update: I'm going to ban FVJ darts. No darts with those rock hard rubber/vinyl tips. None of those nipple darts made of the same material. You still have four months to pick up other darts if those are all you have and basically any of the other types of available darts are as good or better.

Got a question on the Nerf darts.

 

I'm not sure what FVJ darts are, do you have like a picture of them? I'm assuming their 3rd party darts.

Can we use 3rd party nerf N-strike elite darts, or are all 3rd party darts banned?

[CaliforniaPants]

Got a question on the Nerf darts.

 

I'm not sure what FVJ darts are, do you have like a picture of them? I'm assuming their 3rd party darts.

Can we use 3rd party nerf N-strike elite darts, or are all 3rd party darts banned?

I dont have a picture but can explain the darts for you. FJV, or "full vinyl jacket", darts look like streamlines but instead of having a nice cushy head they're a a hard as rock hunk of plastic at the end and they hurt a whole lot. third party darts are encouraged otherwise! make sure to paint the backs or put an initial on yours or something so you can find them in the pile.

[Ice Nine]

Got a question on the Nerf darts.

 

I'm not sure what FVJ darts are, do you have like a picture of them? I'm assuming their 3rd party darts.

Can we use 3rd party nerf N-strike elite darts, or are all 3rd party darts banned?

 

I'm going to follow up Pants's answer here. In Van's write-up of third party darts, he does a good job of explaining what FVN and FVJ darts are. In essence, the heads of these darts are rock hard. They have no give. Other darts, like ACC darts or K'nex darts, have heads that are either made of squishy rubber, or have a structure that provides give. You're free to use any third-party dart that has a tip that is not a solid rock.

 

Pants also makes a good suggestion in marking your darts. Every year there are more and more people using stock and stock-type darts so marking yours will ensure that you get yours back.

[Bert81]

Will a 240 fps longshot be allowed? It can shoot full length or half length darts. I am planning on running voberry darts. 

[Ice Nine]

I've had a few questions about the site of the war, what's viable, etc. In the past few wars, we've had people use mostly stock flywheel blasters, Rival blasters, hoppered homemades, Zing bows, BoomCo stuff, and basically everything else. The central courtyard has a good amount of natural cover that allows for people with less powerful blasters to close gaps with other people, and a lot of objective games help balance blaster types as well. I recommend checking out Hoongfu's videos from last year to get a feel for the site.

 

Will a 240 fps longshot be allowed? It can shoot full length or half length darts. I am planning on running voberry darts. 

 

Yes, that will be fine. The soft cap on velocity is about 260 FPS at the wars I host and those darts are not hard-tipped so there's no issue there.

[Juandabomb333]

How do you sign up do you just go to it? Because I may go.

[Ice Nine]

How do you sign up do you just go to it? Because I may go.

 

You can just show up. It's generally better to post in here that you're planning to come, so that we have a better idea of how many people to expect, but there's no need to RSVP or anything. This thread is mostly useful for asking questions and stuff, and having a place to post war recaps and pictures/videos.

[buthegamer]

Im planning on coming with a friend. im not 100 percent sure though.

[SeeingRed777]

I was just wondering if you do or could do prizes/awards for some of the rounds or certain events or even just for fun type stuff like craziest maneuvers or whatever. I am curious because I would like to contribute in that regard ( at least for this war lol ) since I've acquired a lot of blasters of all varieties. And hey a free blaster is a free blaster lol. If so plz let me know and I'll start getting a few things together.

[CaliforniaPants]

I was just wondering if you do or could do prizes/awards for some of the rounds or certain events or even just for fun type stuff like craziest maneuvers or whatever. I am curious because I would like to contribute in that regard ( at least for this war lol ) since I've acquired a lot of blasters of all varieties. And hey a free blaster is a free blaster lol. If so plz let me know and I'll start getting a few things together.

we don't, but if you just wanna give stuff away nobody will stop you. by all means spread the joy.

[mysterio]

My internship ended up being in LA, so put me down as attending. 

 

I was just wondering if you do or could do prizes/awards for some of the rounds or certain events or even just for fun type stuff like craziest maneuvers or whatever. I am curious because I would like to contribute in that regard ( at least for this war lol ) since I've acquired a lot of blasters of all varieties. And hey a free blaster is a free blaster lol. If so plz let me know and I'll start getting a few things together.

 

I say whoever gets the most unfortunate dart welt should get something.

[SeeingRed777]

My internship ended up being in LA, so put me down as attending. 
 
 
I say whoever gets the most unfortunate dart welt should get something.

That sounds like a good one but ultimately I will leave all that up to the hosts since they are being gracious enough to facilitate and manage the event ( thx again btw).All I know is it's gonna be a ton of fun for the family and my son and I can't wait 👍🏻

Edited by SeeingRed777, 13 April 2017 - 09:54 AM.

[Ice Nine]

One and a half months to go before Armageddon XVIII. I'm excited. I've gotten a handful of questions over PMs, and I'm happy to answer them, but generally it's better to post them in the thread so people can see the response (in case they have the same question). A couple of private answers I might as well make public:

• People generally bring extra blasters, especially to a war this big. If you're worried about your blasters at the war, people are usually pretty nice about lending things out if you're respectful.
• You're better off bringing your own darts. There are, at this point, a few community bins of darts floating around, but quality varies as most of them have aged fairly poorly. In a pinch, though, there will be darts you can borrow.
• Last time I was at the war site, there was construction happening on the parking lot. There were still parking spaces available, off to the side, and there is street parking available, but PLEASE be respectful to the neighbors. Don't throw trash in the street, don't honk your horn, just be considerate of others. You're a guest and we're lucky to be able to use the war site.
• I'm going to bring trash bags, like I did last year. When we leave the war site, there will be less trash on the ground than when we got there in the morning.

we don't, but if you just wanna give stuff away nobody will stop you. by all means spread the joy.

 

Two years ago, two guys from Washington brought two big boxes of stuff and at the end of the day, gave it out to anyone who wanted anything. I remember some kid being thrilled with finally getting a Longshot, which was fun. There probably won't be any "sanctioned" giveaway events because running rounds is already challenging enough.

[FoamFlingingFoamFarmer]

Would a basic rewired Stryfe with 2 IMRs have any chance in competing against whatever is usually brought to this war? Also, are there usually any decent amount of 13-16 year olds?

Edited by FoamFlingingFoamFarmer, 14 May 2017 - 08:21 PM.

[mysterio]

Would a basic rewired Stryfe with 2 IMRs have any chance in competing against whatever is usually brought to this war? Also, are there usually any decent amount of 13-16 year olds?

 

Yes, and kind of. If you're fast enough you can really use anything with a range >20 feet.

[Silly]

Looking at my travel shit for summer break, i may actually be able to convince mah family to let me go, but we will see.

Edit: Is there restrictions on xbz or do those fall under the 4B/UMB/Similar section.

Edited by Silly, 15 May 2017 - 08:00 AM.

[Ice Nine]

Would a basic rewired Stryfe with 2 IMRs have any chance in competing against whatever is usually brought to this war? Also, are there usually any decent amount of 13-16 year olds?

 

In the past few years, I've seen people be competitive with far less range and rate of fire than that. The center courtyard area has a decent amount of coverage, which means people can get closer, and there are enough people that range-appropriate skirmishes organically arise in different areas.

 

Last year, if I recall correctly, there were more than three people in that age group, but fewer than twelve or so.

 

Looking at my travel shit for summer break, i may actually be able to convince mah family to let me go, but we will see.

Edit: Is there restrictions on xbz or do those fall under the 4B/UMB/Similar section.

 

Yes, XBZs are in that category as well.

[Silly]

Are shotgunned titans allowed, like if they shoot many darts at once? If it is allowed, what is the minimum amount of darts it must shoot at once.

[X-Ecution]

Sign me up, will be my first time at a nerf war... go easy on me, I'm fragile. =P

[alpha99025]

Plan on going maybe with a friend, will be our first time and was wondering if someone could bring some extra mags.

[Ice Nine]

We're three weeks away from Armageddon 2017. A couple of notes:

• I can't emphasize enough how lucky we are to be able to use this school. I'm going to bring trash bags so we can keep it clean, in order to continue to be able to use it in the future.
• The school is a public place. If people who aren't playing are walking through, be sure to call out HOLD as loudly as possible and stop. We'll pause so we don't endanger anyone or make them uncomfortable.
• Make sure you bring water/Gatorade/whatever to keep you hydrated. There's a drinking fountain but we all know that pales by comparison to the convenience of a water bottle. I'm going to be bringing a pallet of water bottles but probably not enough for everyone.
• Bring sunscreen, and use it liberally. Sunburns are bad and melanoma is worse.

Be sure to ask any final questions you have in here, and get pumped.

 

Are shotgunned titans allowed, like if they shoot many darts at once? If it is allowed, what is the minimum amount of darts it must shoot at once.

 

Yes, you need to have at least three barrels that fire all at once on the blaster. You can't put one barrel on it and say you're going to shotgun-load it.