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#1 TriggerWarning

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 06:53 PM

So I know many of you have probably run into this problem countless times, but I've never been able to figure out a way to seal the slit hole properly. I know how this happens, as air ends up rupturing the side as a means to escape. Just don't know the best way to fix it.

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I've tried wood glue and super glue, but that just ends up being really brittle and breaks apart over use. Hot glue disbalances the dart and melts the foam too much. What's the best solutions?



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I'm not looking to fill them because blasters in our community uses dart pegs.

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#2 Bro Juice

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 07:16 PM

I have never had this problem. Does it happen to most of your darts or just a few? If it only happens to them rarely, then just throw them away and get new ones. If it happens often, I don't know what to tell you. Is there a reason that they might be splitting?
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Posted 08 November 2014 - 07:44 PM

Just use stefans. Or make your blasters less powerful. But that's silly
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Posted 08 November 2014 - 08:56 PM

you could put straws in them to reinforce the dart as a whole i did that to mine and they still work in ones with pegs. Though personally i rip the ar and peg out of every gun i have... I straw my darts using loctite go2glue it drys rubbery and flexable and clear i have found i can increase the weight a bit by putting a bit of extra glue in the tip of the straw and all issues with them are solved by cutting them 2mm shorter than the end of the dart and pushing it all the way down in. This works great in my stryfe and rapidstrike and they work fine out of my modded jolt and retaliator... I imagine the straw would do 2 things for you one increase the psi a dart can handle and two make the dart more rigid to keep from jamming by folding over...

The straws i used were 1$ from walmart for like 50-100 one straw does 3 darts...
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Posted 08 November 2014 - 09:17 PM

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You could use scotch tape as a fix since its lightweight and durable.
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Posted 08 November 2014 - 10:42 PM

It happens pretty often with air blasters due to the higher pressures going into the dart. The dart will start to leave the barrel and then the air will split the dart open. The other option is your barrel has a groove or sharp spot that rips the darts in the barrel (although this is less extreme and the picture looks like an air blaster). The best way to fix that problem is to lessen the pressure on the dart, either by lowering the blasters power or loosening the dart fit. Or just convert to stefans (the best option).
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Posted 09 November 2014 - 07:47 PM

I think I should have been more clear. I know the why and how of the situation, and I'm trying to filter out the answers that involve using stefans or straws.

The answer I was hoping for was to know what kind of glue I can use. An ideal answer would be some sort of cheap and light elastic glue that is malleable upon application, and dries to form a seal without being brittle. And is also lightweight. Can anyone think of such a material?

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 12:18 AM

I think I should have been more clear. I know the why and how of the situation, and I'm trying to filter out the answers that involve using stefans or straws.

The answer I was hoping for was to know what kind of glue I can use. An ideal answer would be some sort of cheap and light elastic glue that is malleable upon application, and dries to form a seal without being brittle. And is also lightweight. Can anyone think of such a material?

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/go2.shtml#go2-glue
i told you the glue i used it is light and rubbery but does not stay adhered to the foam super well it feels like the stuff they used to put the tips on in the first place it would work. That said you need to take a preventative approach rather than repair after the fact. Nothing you can do will be as good as a fresh dart.


What i would probably do is pull all of the blown out darts and use foam backer rod to make new foam ends using the genuine tips. there is instructions for making the peg holes too. Or the one you pictured you could cut and glue the tip to the half that is left.

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 09:14 AM

Bro, the answer you seek is one that is silly and impractical. Any glue that you use is either going to be to hard or not strong enough. What all previous answers have said is that your solution is stupidly complex compared to just using
stefans or straw reinforced darts.
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Posted 10 November 2014 - 09:22 AM

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Like crusher said, Scotch tape. Light weight and durable. It's especially helpful to wrap them before you split them. Using the thinnest lightest packing tape you can find would be even better since you'll have more coverage with less overlap.
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Posted 10 November 2014 - 02:16 PM

More to prevent this than re-mediate it- Use a barrel so loose (airgun fit) that the pressure doesn't build to this level, or one tight enough that the barrel walls prevent splitting. Stuff a sacrifice dart in, hold it in place and fire. If it splits in place at the back of the chamber, your initial pressure is too high. Try a few different barrels. If it splits as it exits, your barrel is too short, and the dart 'head' is expanding. For a few moments, the front inch has no support from the walls of the barrel, while there is a giant pressure inside it. Either lengthen the barrel or add a double helix of barrel ports to vent pressure before the end.
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Posted 10 November 2014 - 03:36 PM

I am curious how you get nerf guns with dart pegs still in them that can blow out the darts like this are you guys pulling the ar and then tossing heavy springs in them and then to meet some odd rule you leave the dart pegs? I have the stage 1 and 2 OMW kit in my retaliator it does not blow out my darts like this my friend has a strong arm stock that has not done this and i have a jolt i modded that has not done this my rapid strike and stryfe obviously would not do this... honestly the damage looks more like it got pinched in a drum or mag and physically ripped. The straws in the bodys will still help with feeding too.
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Posted 10 November 2014 - 07:29 PM

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I think rubber cement would be your best bet. I've used it to reattach heads with some success. Not particularly lightweight, but it's flexible and adheres to the foam to some degree.

As far as prevention, looser barrels will help stop powerful blasters from destroying darts. Depending on a billion other variables, this may reduce your muzzle velocity, but elite streamlines don't fly straight at high speeds anyways so your effective range won't be hurt too much. I don't recommend shoving straws in all of your darts because it takes time that I wouldn't want to spend on darts that I already paid 25c for. And I don't recommend homemade darts because I read the first post.
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Posted 13 November 2014 - 11:10 PM

I always use tacky glue to fix any rips in my darts.<http://www.amazon.co.../dp/B00178KLEY>
This isn't the specific brand I use, but it dries fairly strong and flexible. As for dart heads, I haven't had much luck with this to reattach them, but for tears in the body it works well, without destroying your foam or weighting the dart to one side.
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Posted 14 November 2014 - 04:14 AM

I think rubber cement would be your best bet. I've used it to reattach heads with some success. Not particularly lightweight, but it's flexible and adheres to the foam to some degree.

As far as prevention, looser barrels will help stop powerful blasters from destroying darts. Depending on a billion other variables, this may reduce your muzzle velocity, but elite streamlines don't fly straight at high speeds anyways so your effective range won't be hurt too much. I don't recommend shoving straws in all of your darts because it takes time that I wouldn't want to spend on darts that I already paid 25c for. And I don't recommend homemade darts because I read the first post.

Actually it goes really fast once you get it down. Also you can make homemade darts with dart peg holes. And you suggest they put looser barrels on blasters when it sounded like they dont use modded blasters. If they used modded blasters they could remove the dart pegs.
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Posted 21 January 2015 - 11:46 AM

I just take the heads off of shredded Elites/Streamlines (after cutting the stem down) and (Elmer's School) glue them onto headless Buzzbee darts. I only have stock blasters, and they perform at least as well as stock darts.
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