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#26 Draconis

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:18 AM

thanks. Also I found a lead washer that fits perfectly inside the snap-cap and has no metal exposed. Because it is lead you have to paint it or seal it. With the finished head: you can push down really hard when putting the head on and it will sink and seat into the foam better. just throwing some ideas i tested out there.


Maybe shooting your friends with toxic heavy metals is a slight step backwards? Not to mention that everyone pretty much gave up on these.... In April. When they were shown to break apart on impact. And possibly injure people. WITHOUT ALSO GIVING THEM LEAD POISONING.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 08:13 AM

Maybe shooting your friends with toxic heavy metals is a slight step backwards? Not to mention that everyone pretty much gave up on these.... In April. When they were shown to break apart on impact. And possibly injure people. WITHOUT ALSO GIVING THEM LEAD POISONING.


I understand were your comming from but for a person (me)who is serious and cant make a slug, or a hot glue dome to save his life, it is a safe way to get accurate, well made darts and with a little experimentation I can find a safe alternitave to a washer. as for the breaking problem I tried silicon to seal the dart head and after several shots from a 4b at a brick wall the head did not break. This was my experiment and results. I was hoping to revive this dart because this is a great alternitave to slugs, hotglue domes and pre-formed dart heads. In no way was I trying to hurt anyone or piss anyone off. i hope you can understand that. As for the dart I found a way to prevent it from breaking: Use silicon to seal the head on the inside.

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#28 Draconis

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 11:11 AM

I understand were your comming from but for a person (me)who is serious and cant make a slug, or a hot glue dome to save his life, it is a safe way to get accurate, well made darts and with a little experimentation I can find a safe alternitave to a washer. as for the breaking problem I tried silicon to seal the dart head and after several shots from a 4b at a brick wall the head did not break. This was my experiment and results. I was hoping to revive this dart because this is a great alternitave to slugs, hotglue domes and pre-formed dart heads. In no way was I trying to hurt anyone or piss anyone off. i hope you can understand that. As for the dart I found a way to prevent it from breaking: Use silicon to seal the head on the inside.



I am risking sanctions just to make a point here, and hopefully permanently end the discussion... This is an expensive design already, which has unequivocally been shown to possibly end in sharp, pointy bits embedded in other players. That is a far worse outcome than a round washer coming loose. Adding a toxic heavy metal to the mix is worse yet. You can bet that if you take these to a war, you are A. Likely to hurt someone worse than with standard stefans. B. Likely to be punched in the face after someone gets plastic shards embedded in their flesh. Don't spend time and money reviving a stupid design. If you can't make domes with other materials, the only way to get better at it is by practice, just like everyone else. If you can't make slugs well... Then you are not trying at all. If you have Parkinson's or something which is keeping you from developing dome skills, then find a different material for your pre-formed domes. Don't just keep working with a dangerous design to make them less bad.
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#29 clunk07

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 08:36 AM

Guaranteed I'll cop a warning or worse for this post, and I've tried to steer clear of this topic, as us Aussie's generally cop enough flak from our Northern hemisphere counterparts, (an island of Nerf convicts.... really?!?) but I can't sit by idly and read about half-assed claims of potential serious injuries from screw-cap darts, or the supposed lack of skill in using this as an alternative to hot-glue domes or slugs.

While the McMaster caps may shatter upon impact, that's something I can't comment on, unless someone would care to ship me some for testing. The 'Snap Cap' branded screw caps used widely here in Australia will not shatter. My proof, try watching this:



Yep, that's a 16kg spring load bbls, plugged 4B, and plugged Titan firing snap cap darts in to a sheet metal garage door.

I won't delve in to the pro's of these darts, like being able to easily alter dart weight to specific powered blasters for increased range performance....

Personally, I think that slugs and hot glue domes are fairly barbaric in themselves, but you use what you can when the alternatives are scarce. We have a guy over here who's developed his own silicon dart tip in two different weights, which appear to be the safest dart head to hit the warring scene. So much so, that a similar version is being used in Singapore. While these tips are designed for custom-made tubular foam, adapting solid rod foam to accept the tips wouldn't be a major issue.

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