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#1 Jlego

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 11:52 PM

This mod was originally created before Apoc '10 in Split's workshop in an effort to make the seal on the plunger tube perfect, as this is the absolute biggest issue on the Arrowstorm. The original idea was to completely replace the plunger tube, but that seemed like such a waste, as the original plunger tube has such ample volume to work with. By chance, I realized that the ID of the plunger tube is VERY similar to that of the +bow, so I grabbed a spare skirt seal I had and went to work. The results were pretty fantastic, and I decided to purchase another one to do a write-up for. (shoutout to Ubermensch for a good sale)
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The airflow between the plunger tube and the turret is pretty sad, for what it is. It can be widened to 7/16" without compromising the seal to the turret. This can be done with a dremel/drill/exacto/sandpaper, just be careful, alright?
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Here is the stock Arrowstorm plunger head assembly, great, but the existing seal only makes a good seal for the last inch or so of travel, WHICH IS UNACCEPTABLE.
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So just rip off the old seal, which is garbage. You'll notice that either a U-cup seal or skirt seal will work, however the skirt seal seems to have less friction towards the end of travel.
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Drill a hole in as close as you can get to the dead center of the plunger head (diameter of 27/32" if you really needed to know, 7/8" if you don't wanna go to nuts)
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Next, cut a circle of 1/8" polycarb, between 1" and 1+1/8" in diameter with a 1/8 hole (up to 5/32, if you care) in the center. I chose to put a 1/16" thick washer in the middle of the plunger head to relive stress on the skirt seal.
Then use a 6-32 bolt to assemble your plunger head, doesn't matter if the phillips head is on the outside or inside, you can do whichever if you have a longer screwdriver or socket wrench. You can check to make sure it's airtight by blowing air in the back of the plunger head assembly and see if any air escapes. If you've done all of this right, you should have something like what you see below. Throw a bunch of silicone lube/whatever you want on the inside of the tube and on the skirt seal.
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That is what most people need, the rest of this write-up to show how to make perfect rear loading ports.
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First off, choose your barrel material and length, cut all 6 barrels, and add enough electrical tape to secure them in place right up against the taper for the plunger tube's nesting point.
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You can glue them in place, but if you use the electrical tape properly, it's not necessary.
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Once the barrels are mounted, take a sharpie and put electrical tape on it so that both sections of electrical tape on the marker are the same as the ID of the barrel material (it should slide in and out fairly easily).
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Assemble your Arrowstorm completely now, and drop the sharpie down the four barrels that should be rear loading (make sure they hit bottom) Now disassemble your Arrowstorm once more!
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Now use the sharpie mark for the center of the rear loading holes.
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A good way to do that is to drill a 7/64" hole and tap it with a 6-32 bit. Use a screw to attach a washer, I used a 1" diameter washer with a 1/8" hole in the middle.
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Trace around the washers with a sharpie and then remove the washers.
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Dremel/drill/whatever until you're up to the sharpie mark. Seems to work quite well, all the holes were just the right size for the washers to fit though. Finish with sandpaper, I used 400 grit, seemed to work great.
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Looks off center in the pic, but it is quite well centered.

That's about it, I have a couple more ideas, but it's gonna be a while before I get around to them, so I figured I'd post this for you all to enjoy in the meantime. Also I don't think I cursed enough in there, fuck it all, props to my boizzzz over at #nerfhaven.
Questions? Shoot!

EDIT: Picture links have been corrected, thanks to WSU Cowboy and LordNikonX for bugging me to get this fixed. I may have an addendum to this mod at sometime in the future.

Edited by Jlego, 13 July 2014 - 08:47 PM.

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 11:56 PM

Way to go, Jax. I would have to change my pants if I were wearing any.

Thanks for not posting your eye-candy high-res photos. My job would be much worse.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 11:59 PM

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 12:00 AM

This mod is definintly going on my to-do list.
Are you going to replace the spring or anything along those lines?
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 12:01 AM

Mad sexy Jax.
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 12:08 AM

Mad sexy Jax.

Agreed. This is so Effeminate! The cleanness and the way you made the rear-loading holes is amazing!

Nice!
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 12:15 AM

Holy shit. Well done indeed.

I'll be the dick and ask how far the darts are traveling out of that beast.
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#8 Jlego

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 12:19 AM

This is why I love you.

<3

This mod is definintly going on my to-do list.
Are you going to replace the spring or anything along those lines?

That is one of the potential improvements, specifically re-enforcing the spring rest and adding a k25, a k26 is most likely too much, you have to remember this is a pull gun, and as nice as showing off your guns is, stability is something to consider. This is also partly because the best method I've seen for firing it is to pull it all the way back and hold your thumb on the back of the gun, firing it by pulling the last half inch or so back with your thumb on the back of the gun. That could prove difficult with a k26 or anything more powerful. Definitely a good idea though.

Holy shit. Well done indeed.

I'll be the dick and ask how far the darts are traveling out of that beast.

HA! Was wondering how long that would take. I honestly haven't range tested it before, but at all the wars I've used/langley has used it at, it's great, somewhere around xbow ranges. When all this snow lets up, I'll do a quick range test to give you something more quantitative.

Edited by Jlego, 22 February 2011 - 12:25 AM.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 12:45 AM

This is very awesome Jax, makes me want to do this to the one in my garage.
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 01:25 AM

Damn, that is extremely clean.
Sick work dude.
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 08:15 AM

Cleanest Arrowstorm ever. Makes me want one.

Edited by the mod man, 22 February 2011 - 05:29 PM.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 11:58 AM

Wow, impressive as always! I also want to add that the same plunger seal mod works for the Ballzooka, just in case anyone cares.
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 01:04 PM

This is dead sexy. Well done good and noble sir.
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 03:41 PM

Did.......did my pants just get tighter?

I score this a 5 Philhawks out of 4. Or, using the old system, 2.5 Liskabutts.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 04:56 PM

That is damn sexy!
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 05:10 PM

Very impressive, maybe I'll make one someday.

EDIT: Noodle, I take back anything I said about Arrowstorms. <3

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 06:17 PM

Super sexy, clean and practical.

Arrowstorm mods get mad props because Arrowstorms are the coolest shit ever.
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Posted 23 February 2011 - 10:57 PM

As someone who has used an Arrowstorm (the Air Zone remake, anyway) as a primary in the past, I can really appreciate those wide-open holes.

I may attempt to put a skirt on my AZ Arrowstorm...unless they changed the diameters significantly, it should work.

...Arrowstorms are the coolest shit ever.


So true.



PS: Anyone have a part number for the proper U cup seal?

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 11:03 PM

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HA! Was wondering how long that would take. I honestly haven't range tested it before, but at all the wars I've used/langley has used it at, it's great, somewhere around xbow ranges. When all this snow lets up, I'll do a quick range test to give you something more quantitative.
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Holy shit Xbow ranges? No need to range test, I'm already terrified of this gun and will be running in the opposite direction when I see it at Apoc.

Edited by Pearson2, 25 February 2011 - 11:05 PM.

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 08:53 PM

BUMP

That's right. I can do that.

Jlego fixed the images, for anyone who was trying to use this thread.
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Posted 13 July 2014 - 09:46 PM

Man, Arrowstorms are the best.
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