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#26 Doom

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 01:56 PM

I'm going to talk to some other UMD guys to see if we can carpool to this. Put me down as a maybe.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 02:08 PM

I could say something, or I'll just shut up. This is my first indoor war, so I don't really have a place to say anything about game types. Maybe for once I'll show up to a war and not try to run it.

Anwyay, I can't wait. Kane is a strong possibility and if I'm going, he'll most likely be tagging along with me.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 08:27 PM

DM + DM + DM with pistols + CTF or DTC + CTF or DTC. That's 60% deathmatch.
I find it hard to believe that the venue prevents you from doing more interesting gametypes.

I share desire to get as much nerf in as possible, but deathmatch really works against that. I'm sure the indoor arena makes rounds end faster, but it also eliminates people faster. So, the fraction of the roundtime that the average nerfer is actually playing doesn't necessarily improve. Admittedly, other factors relating to the arena could improve this improve this factor, but there are plenty of gametypes where 100% of the roundtime is spent in-game.

Lots of rounds also works against maximizing playtime. Picking teams takes time, switching sides takes less time, between round grab-assing usually takes longer than both. Fewer, longer rounds help this a lot, and I personally enjoy them more. If you haven't tried a 1 hour + round, you should some time.

As for weapon restrictions, banning guns that are more powerful than +bows is reasonable, maybe banning guns that are weird is not so reasonable. If there's something else that's not allowed, I'd like to know before I show up to the war so I pack accordingly.
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Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:39 AM

It's Talio's war, I'm just commonly his sounding board for these things. I won't pretend to know exactly what we'll play or to what extent we will play it at this war, but, I can assure you, there will be deathmatches.

For me personally, super long rounds ducking behind cover = not much fun. Pistol rounds aleviate much of the cover fire mechanics, and I could play them all day, but I'm generally alone in that sentiment. With primaries, you can only advance so far before presenting a massive target when upright. Keeping rounds short, and swapping sides without changing teams, which I've suggested, helps to keep it interesting and dynamic. When you're in control of the war, downtime is at your discretion. Also, we like Deathmatch. The most thourough analysis we've done of this concludes that it is fun. When it's not fun, we won't play it.

Understand, we've tried alot of the objective based rounds you guys run out there, and we generally haven't cared for them. From what Ryan, Ice9, and Zorn have told us after Deal, things have a much different feel here than they do where you guys tend to nerf. We don't worry too much about dying early, as that is considered fair punishment for getting your ass shot multiple times.

Now don't get me wrong, I find debating round construction and the general flow of nerf wars about 10x as interesting as discussing actual nerf guns, so I appreciate your input. I also welcome alternatives to deathmatch if they work for us (we're not too concerned about what works for other people). I just don't want anyone to get the impression that the wars in this neck of the woods are democracies. Once the war is under way whoever's hosting (Talio in this case) has final say on everything. Input may be sought, but it's at the host's discretion.

Anyway, I'd be more than happy to thouroughly discuss the merits and demerits of deathmatch and alternative objectives in another thread.
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#30 Talio

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 06:46 PM

60% deathmatch is a high probability. We haven't played this space often and it's very different from playing in a park. I will do a CTF round that we tried at the first ECNO on the paintball field. Basically the flag is in the center and if the flagholder gets shot he has to place it back down on the nearest bunker. That stops the runner from just taking off with it, or him dropping it in a way that would let his team just grab it up and run. That way you actually have to protect your flag runner. Goal is to get it to the opposite side you started on. The flag is simply a hand towel because it lays on bunkers nicely. But mostly it will be deathmatch. I hope that doesn't keep you guys from coming, but it's what the majority of our group likes to do and it works really well in the space. If you've got some ideas we can certainly try them, but this thing is already a huge pain in the ass to host that I'm not going to be getting super fancy. Not to mention, flat out I like TDM and have very little personal interest in alternate rounds, but I'm willing to be flexible. Just a matter of opinion, but believe me if you make the trip out here we'll have a good time.

Now, onto more planning stuff. The 26th is the date. I'm going to try to get. I'll talk to the Grid people over the weekend and get it planned out. After that I'll know what the price is and we'll go ahead and start getting money from everyone.

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 12:09 PM

Intermediate electrodynamics I midterm: February 9
Abstract algebra II second midterm: February 14
Point-set topology second midterm: February 23
Analysis in R^n III second midterm: February 18
Medicine Since the Renaissance midterm paper: The syllabus doesn't say but it should be mid-February.

I have another physics class but there aren't any other components besides long labs and presentations on data, and I'm going to be done with the presentation early this quarter, so it can be ignored.

I'd like to come. The date chosen is the best one for me. However, money and time are both big issues, and I'm not sure if something will pop up later into this quarter.

I don't really have complaints about game types. I think the small field size will contribute to a much more playable deathmatch, a game type that I don't really actively choose but also don't dislike.

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 03:06 PM

If the war will have less than 60% death match then I really don't think I would make the 45 minute drive just to play different game types.
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 07:02 PM

I'll be able to make it any date. Honestly, if we're just doing 3-15 for most of the day, I have no objections.
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 11:26 PM

I'm going to have to go down as a maybe. It all depends if I have the money to make the trip down there at that point in time. I just lost my job(literally at noon today), so just give me like a bit to figure out if I can or not. If I come I'll also bring the girlfriend because she want to play.

I can definitely go. So my girlfriend and I will be there.

Edited by firesflame4, 08 January 2011 - 11:40 PM.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 12:48 AM

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Hey, I'm unemployed, and have a girlfriend who may or may not come to this war too! To think, all this time I've been keeping that shit to myself. WE HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON! LETS B FRIENDS 4 EVR!
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 12:08 PM

The first one was a lot of fun, and I'd like to come to this one. However, as of right now, please put me +1 as a maybe. I'll confirm attendance a little closer to the date if I can go.


Also, if anyone from the Western New York area wants to go down, let me know.

Edited by NerfHunter03, 09 January 2011 - 12:28 PM.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 03:05 PM

Hey, I'm unemployed, and have a girlfriend who may or may not come to this war too! To think, all this time I've been keeping that shit to myself. WE HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON! LETS B FRIENDS 4 EVR!

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 12:18 AM

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Hey, I'm unemployed, and have a girlfriend who may or may not come to this war too! To think, all this time I've been keeping that shit to myself. WE HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON! LETS B FRIENDS 4 EVR!


Really... anyways, will anybody be selling stefens that fit cpvc for a springer?
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#39 Talio

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 03:23 AM

Bad Phil. That wasn't funny. I totally didn't laugh my ass off when I saw it. Tears really weren't coming from my eyes. This is serious sir. Bad.
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 08:15 AM

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#41 KaneTheMediocre

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 07:50 PM

I think the people have spoken, and they want deathmatch. I've decided I'm not the people, so I don't plan to attend. I'm personally convinced that your aversion to other gametypes must stem from historically poor implementation, as CTF is exceptionally fail-prone, and DTC is a bit tricky too. But I shouldn't clog up your war thread with my gameplay analysis / Deathmatch hate. That belongs elsewhere.
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 09:21 PM

If I can make it down, I can bring some of the "Killer Targets" that FA24 posted about back in October/November as a different game type, or for the DTC Rounds. I don't know what you have planned for the rounds, but just thought I would offer. As it stands now, I will most likely be available on the date, its more a matter of finding someone else who wants to take the trip down with me, since there are seemingly few nerfers in the WNY area that are willing to make a road trip.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 10:56 PM

Ya, I'm a maybe.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 08:25 AM

I've decided I'm not the people, so I don't plan to attend.

Oh thank god.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 04:41 PM

I've decided I'm not the people, so I don't plan to attend.

It's cause you hate me, isn't it.
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#46 Talio

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 05:45 PM

Okay, so the 26th is looking really solid. I talked to the guy and he says it ours, we just have to get on the books. Like last year it will be 300 bucks. So what we'll do is everyone sends me 5 or 10 bucks and I give it to the guy for a downpayment. Then we'll subtract it from the total 300 and devide it by the number of attendees who actually arrive. Your initial payment is of course non-refundable.

Now, from the guys who will actually be helping me run this (you know who you are) they're asking us to do some sort of seminar for the people there and letting them watch us play a few rounds. Please only answer this question if you have physically been inside my apartmnet as a general rule of thumb.

Oh yeah, eye protection is an absolute must. Shooting glasses are preferred but make sure they can take a hell of a hit. These guns are getting fucking rediculous and we're gonna be shooting really close to each other.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 06:18 PM

Ok so what is your paypal, and how much do you want? $5?
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 08:43 PM

Please only answer this question if you have physically been inside my apartmnet as a general rule of thumb.


Mmmm. I've done more than merely be physically inside your apartment.

Still a mmmmmmmaybe. I'll send five bucks soon anyways. At worst I don't go and help out a bit.
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:14 PM

Okay, so the 26th is looking really solid. I talked to the guy and he says it ours, we just have to get on the books. Like last year it will be 300 bucks. So what we'll do is everyone sends me 5 or 10 bucks and I give it to the guy for a downpayment. Then we'll subtract it from the total 300 and devide it by the number of attendees who actually arrive. Your initial payment is of course non-refundable.

....... Other Important info ......
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I'll put down $5 for me, and $5 for a friend of mine, but at this point, we are both still maybes, but it's looking like a strong likelihood that I will make the drive down at least.


EDIT: Ice Nine... You gonna be making darts by any chance?

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 11:12 PM

I'm not going to this but heres the thread for the first game. Hope you guys can get video and pictures!



http://nerfhaven.com...showtopic=18987
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