53 replies to this topic

[MindWarrior]

Based on your time with the internals of it, would you say that it could be possible to fit the motorized internals into a long strike shell?

I would say no. The back of the longstrike has only enough room for a reverse plunger.

[Lion]

Based on your time with the internals of it, would you say that it could be possible to fit the motorized internals into a long strike shell?

Why in the world would you want to do that...

[Broderick]

Excellent! So at least the breech seems less like a hassle now, But I'm still kind of worried about the motor, Hopefully, It can handle a BBB spring replacement to give it ranges from the 70s to 80s.

Maybe if you want to machine metal gears and slow the ROF down like hell because of how much power you've got with that extra spring. Not to mention replacing the motor so it doesn't burn out.

Basically a complete overhaul to get not much less rate of fire than a PAS with a hopper. Correct me if I'm wrong. You could do it, and it would be awesome, but not really worth the time in my opinion.

This looks pretty cool, and may be less of a bitch to mod than the Vulcan. I could see this thing hitting ~50 feet with a breech replacement. It'd be pretty cool. Replace the motor and you can rig up some RC batteries to it too. I'll be buying it if anything for the 18 shot clip.

Edited by Broderick, 25 July 2010 - 11:51 PM.

[Mr Choeif]

Based on your time with the internals of it, would you say that it could be possible to fit the motorized internals into a long strike shell?

Why in the world would you want to do that...

For a project that is more for the aesthetics than for function. I'm thinking of making the Ambassador from TF2 and was looking for a way to make it shoot with only one hand.

[MindWarrior]

Excellent! So at least the breech seems less like a hassle now, But I'm still kind of worried about the motor, Hopefully, It can handle a BBB spring replacement to give it ranges from the 70s to 80s.

Maybe if you want to machine metal gears and slow the ROF down like hell because of how much power you've got with that extra spring. Not to mention replacing the motor so it doesn't burn out.

REPLACEMENT. Spring REPLACEMENT. I do know enough that adding the spring could burn out the motor, but I'm hoping that just a BBB spring would be sustainable.

[Salmon]

Dude. I really, really like this. Big plunger tube, brass-breechable, and compatible with a Raider clip? Hecks to the yeah. Not to mention the looks.

[thezeronumber]

For a project that is more for the aesthetics than for function. I'm thinking of making the Ambassador from TF2 and was looking for a way to make it shoot with only one hand.

Maybe you can explain how on earth a huge Longstrike with Stampede internals could look anything like an Ambassador from Team Fortress 2, which is a Revolver. Reference: Ambassador

I cannot wait to get my hands on this. Range and mod-ability isn't everything and this will be a mighty fun piece of kit, plus have its uses in close-quarter battles if the opportunity arises.

Edited by thezeronumber, 26 July 2010 - 06:37 AM.

[mystefansdontflystraight]

Damn it's been a while....
This thing looks friggin amazing.
SgNerf: I was wondering if you could give us an idea of the size of the plunger tube. Is it similar to a longshot's? It looks smaller to me, but it's hard to tell, not having anything familiar for reference.
I may start up again, just to use this thing.

[Mr Choeif]

For a project that is more for the aesthetics than for function. I'm thinking of making the Ambassador from TF2 and was looking for a way to make it shoot with only one hand.

Maybe you can explain how on earth a huge Longstrike with Stampede internals could look anything like an Ambassador from Team Fortress 2, which is a Revolver. Reference: Ambassador

I cannot wait to get my hands on this. Range and mod-ability isn't everything and this will be a mighty fun piece of kit, plus have its uses in close-quarter battles if the opportunity arises.

Trust me, I know what the Ambassador looks like. The plan is like so...
(Long strike - stock - barrel extension) + maverick + some way of shooting single handedly.
Also, this plan is all in my head right now since it does seem ridiculous.

[Paragon19]

I'm going to have to paint one of these red, and I'm definitely getting one. I'll definitely be interested to see if anyone can come up with a mod to give it a manual cocking mechanism as a backup.

[SgNerf]

... SgNerf: I was wondering if you could give us an idea of the size of the plunger tube. Is it similar to a longshot's? It looks smaller to me, but it's hard to tell, not having anything familiar for reference...

I've received lots of queries about the Stampede's plunger tube size too, so i've just updated the Stampede Internals Guide with a plunger comparison with the Longshot plunger.

Nerf Stampede ECS - Plunger Comparison with Nerf Longshot CS-6
(Top: Longshot / Bottom: Stampede)



I took some rough external measurements of both plungers:

Longshot = OD: 40mm / Length : 145mm
Stampede = OD: 30mm / Length : 120mm

Note that the measurements i took are rounded to the nearest 5 or 10, so they are not exact... but hopefully the info is sufficient enough just to provide an idea of the plunger sizes for comparison.

Edited by SgNerf, 26 July 2010 - 04:24 PM.

[death by cheez]

My giggidy giggidy goo meter just went BLAM! Considering its PT size, this should do more than enough with a simple AR removal for an indoor war!

[mbisc8]

I almost screamed like a little girl when I saw the longshit plunger in the Stampede. I really want one now.

[MavericK96]

Sooo...People have this thing. How long until we see some mods? Or at least an AR removal with new ranges?

[durka durka]

Wow... the stampede isn't reverse plungered... *head explodes*

Would you say the plunger is about nitefinder size? It looks like it to me, but I can't really tell.

I wouldn't put some of the larger springs into this thing, but it looks like it could accept springs of decent strength. With this kind of ROF, even 60 ft ranges would make the stampede very effective.

Does the motor look similar/the same as the vulcan's? With nerf reusing parts in several of their blasters, it isn't hard to think that hasbro would do that in this case.

Edited by durka durka, 28 July 2010 - 08:46 PM.

[MavericK96]

I'm thinking that without replacing the gear mechanisms/motor with stronger ones, a stronger spring would probably cause the gun to malfunction and potentially break. I guess it all depends on how much strength the motor and gears really have beyond how they are normally used.

[ZimZam93]

my cousin hates this gun, he just wants the barrel break but i keep tellin him check it out and he loves his longshot so, i need to show him this, i feel like a swat member just looking at the design, i too am affraid that a spring replacement might mess up the gears, so ill just take out the AR until someone finds a way to do a spring replacement

[Pyroplasma]

From a (mild) bit of past experience doing a gear replacement on the gearbox wouldn't be entirely out of the question. I'm seeing four main things that would need to be done.

1.) The plastic rack and pinion that are sticking out look reasonably sturdy, perhaps a thin strip of steel or aluminum along the non-toothed side to keep them from flexing and disengaging.

2.)Unscrew/cut/remove the motor assembly. It will most likely have a small 15-20 tooth nylon gear that can be measured and a full brass or aluminum replacement purchased online for a pittance. The other gears could be replaced in a similar fashion, but I'd suspect it is unnecessary as the motor gear is spinning the fastest and wears the most. If a new replacement gear is correctly measured and bought, it should slip back together without any trouble at all.

3.)Find a new motor online/hobby shop with a bit more oomph, can't tell from the pic, but motors usually have some identifying markings on them giving, at the very least, voltage/current ratings. Finding a comparatively more powerful one would be trivial. Not a plug, but a website like hobbyking.com would probably have everything.

4.) If the power is going to be boosted, pretty much all of the "circuitry" inside the thing can go. Keep only the external switch and what looks like a limit switch tied into the gearbox. Add a new NiCad pack and you are ready to go.

I'm thinking with the general internal mods, a full on brass breech, Increased spring pressure backed up by a beefier gearbox, this blaster would begin to live up to it's name.


Sudden thought:
If that really is a limit switch in the gearbox telling the blaster when it is kosher to fire, or rather when one full "cycle" is complete. It wouldn't be too much trouble to integrate an electrical switch selector to change from full auto to semi auto.

[lazer371]

not to bring up a thread from the dead but what advantages/ disadvantages would the bottom half of the picture give? reduced weight, but would you need to replace the batteries very often? sorry im not very techy...

[GeshmanWG]

That's tempting, just buy some rechargeable AAs (if you don't already use them you should, they have saved me lots of money on batteries over the years) and charge them before every war. It would make the weight go way down and as long as they have the same output it would be perfect.

Edited by GeshmanWG, 08 August 2010 - 11:59 PM.

[Daniel Beaver]

reduced weight, but would you need to replace the batteries very often?

correct on both counts.

As a rule of thumb, AA batteries will last about 1/3rd as long as C batteries (though that varies quite a bit in practice). Rechargeable batteries would be a good investment, regardless of what size you use.

Edited by Daniel Beaver, 09 August 2010 - 12:08 AM.

[MavericK96]

Didn't see this posted yet.

http://www.crunchgea...tampede-ecs-50/

[Aj]

Didn't see this posted yet.

http://www.crunchgea...tampede-ecs-50/

what a terrible review...

"bipod for night activities"

"stampede ecx"

[MavericK96]

Yeah, I watched the video shortly after posting. Pretty sad, but fun to see more footage of it "in the wild," I suppose.

[domo0]

I've noticed the Stampede is already in circulation amongst some lucky chaps who managed to get the complete boxsets via their pre-orders, so i guess i can post this here.

Moderators, please remove this thread if this information is still not to be released yet.

For my current reviews, i am using a unit that was loaned to me from fellow NerfSG forum member "nerfer", who managed to get hold of a set recently too. Thanks nerfer!

This particular unit came with only one 18-dart clip and the foregrip bipod, therefore currently i can only showcase these items in my reviews.

Here are the links to the Nerf Stampede ECS Reviews, Demo & Test Fire, and Internals Guide.
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Nerf Stampede - Review!



Full Review Link: http://sgnerf.blogsp...nary-photo.html


Nerf Stampede - Demo/Test Fire & Internals Video




Nerf Stampede - Internals Guide!

I'm sure everyone is keen to find out how the Stampede works too, so here are the internal photos i've taken so far:

Nerf Stampede ECS - Disassembled




Nerf Stampede ECS - Motor, Circuits & Gears Detail




Nerf Stampede ECS - Plunger & Gears Detail




[b]Nerf Stampede ECS - Plunger Comparison with Nerf Longshot CS-6
(Top: Longshot / Bott
[b]Nerf Stampede ECS



Full Internals Guide Link: [url=http://modworks.blogsnerf-stampede-internals-guide.html]http://modworks.blogspot

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