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#26 LiterSize

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 05:47 PM

There was a question about a manual priming mechanism; there was none. You throw the clip in and you're good to go without having to move a bolt back or anything to get the magazine inside.
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 06:19 PM

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Putting up my pics now, but just wanted to show that this is indeed possible.

Argh, didn't mean to double post.



No variable speed settings. That switch turns it on and off.

To DeathByCheez: That was one of the first things I checked; and did not see a manual priming bar as found on the vulcan. Talio can confirm, but it's safe to think for now that you need the batteries unlike the vulcan.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 06:44 PM

Does it have variable firing speeds, or am i seeing things?
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 07:13 PM

I think that they meant is it possible to use without batteries, like the vulcan.
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 08:00 PM

Opps. Nevermind.

Edited by stickfigure91x, 16 July 2010 - 08:01 PM.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 08:14 PM

Giggidty giggidty goo! Alright! Still looks worthy enough to buy, though the 6 d batteries are gonna run pretty expensive....
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 08:28 PM

Litersize is actually the guy to ask. He was actually playing with the guns. I was too busy drinking and jawing.
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 09:24 PM

Ask those assholes where they got the idea for high cap mags!
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 10:50 PM

It's such a shame that nerf has been making their blasters more realistic.

I think I'd rather spend $50 on pvc, goop, fbr, and such.


That is why there is a plethora of information made available in the Homemades section. If you want performance, you likely will get a better return on $50 by making your own than purchasing a blaster from Nerf.

Yes, I'm well aware of the existance of homemades.

Based on the pics, it doesn't look too difficult to attach some sort of priming handle. Those batteries are going to die right when you need them the most, so adding a priming handle would be one of the first things I would do.

Also, was it possible to tell what kind of plunger this thing has? Looks reverse to me, but I can't quite tell.
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 11:53 PM

You know it's baffling to me that people keep asking that question. Do you really think Nerf let us rip the thing apart in a bar? Get real man.
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 11:57 PM

You know, I promised myself that I wouldn't buy the stampede...But...Fucking A it looks awesome.
I might just get suckered into it. Depends on how long the batteries last.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:38 AM

Forget the 3 new blasters and the Clear Series. I'm saving up for the Stampede.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 05:48 AM

I can answer a couple of questions that Talio can't (I wasn't as hammered that night only because they had no Tattoo Rum).

The bipod collapses into the grip. There is a button on the top of the grip that ejects it. Contrary though to what the press release pictures show you, you can't sit the blaster down on the bipod with a 18-shot clip loaded. The clip is longer than the bipod.

Oddly, no one tried to mount the shield to any other blaster in the place, but it looks like you won't be able to mount it to any rail with a lot of bulk underneath it. If you look at the pictures on the site that Talio provided the link to, you can see what I mean. Now I'm just waiting to go to a war and see someone with the shield mounted to his NF. Once I get mine (whenever that happens) I will try to mount it to different blasters. The bipod/grip is also a rail-mounted accessory, so any blaster with a underside rail can accept it.

From what I observed, you may have a hard time installing a priming handle on this thing. I didn't examine it too much to see if it was possible, but from what I could tell, the internal design is set a bit different than the LS and other clip system blasters.

Talio, I didn't need to open that thing up to figure out what was on the inside. I just asked Brian from the Design Team.

Sadly kiddies, it is a reverse plunger.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 07:41 AM

I'm a lefty, do you have any idea if it is an ambidextrous/left handed magazine release button? The pics show its righty but I couldnt tell about a lefty.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 07:57 AM

As a matter of fact, badger did indeed point that out. And yes, there IS a magazine release button on both sides.

Posted Image - There it is!

Posted Image - and there's the other just to the left of the "safety" switch I am pointing at.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:19 AM

I can probably guess how it works.

imagine a recon:

1. the PT doesn't move as the bolt moves forward to chamber a dart, and compresses a spring

2. the bolt moves back into the PT firing the dart

rinse and repeat
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That's about it. And thanks Angela who helped me with these pictures.. It looks huge in her hands.


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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:08 PM

That is awesome. If this gets 25-30 feet, I won't mind. I tend to have indoor wars with my brothers. I can't wait to buy it so I can have fun.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:19 PM

Shoot, since we nerf inside of a church and occasionally on its playground, this will be a beast!
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:20 PM

Thanks for clearing that up, now I'm pumped for this thing. I'm glad I have that extra 35 round drum :P
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 03:00 PM

cut it off just forward of where the darts clear the clip/breach, eliminate all plastic behind the grip not required for the main housing, relocate the batteries (on gun/off gun your pref) and i forsee mad dual wield pistol possibilities.

I have *never* understood why anyone would create a long 'barrel' for nerf darts when the get their force from leaving the chamber.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 03:25 PM

cut it off just forward of where the darts clear the clip/breach, eliminate all plastic behind the grip not required for the main housing, relocate the batteries (on gun/off gun your pref) and i forsee mad dual wield pistol possibilities.

I have *never* understood why anyone would create a long 'barrel' for nerf darts when the get their force from leaving the chamber.

Eliminating the plastic behind the grip not required for the main housing and relocating the batteries as you suggest would actually make this blaster more unwieldy. Unlike the Vulcan, which was extremely rear heavy, the Stampede is well balanced. Moving the batteries anywhere else would alter the weight distribution of this blaster, which I was told they researched thoroughly. They learned a lot of lessons from the Vulcan. The battery pack doesn't seem to be a power sled like the Vulcan was either. The battery chambers are the back of the blaster behind the grip, and the travel range for the plunger system also goes back there, so I don't think you will be able to remove or relocate anything without negating the benefits of this blaster design.

As for removing the cosmetic barrel at the front, there isn't much you can remove without also cutting off tactical rails. If you lose the bottom one, you have nowhere to mount the combination bipod/grip. Cut back further and you lose the rail that the shield is mounted upon.

I don't think simple "hack and slash" modifications will benefit you on this one. If you want to modify it, it will take some more thought and precision, like the RFSG did to produce the Doomsayer.

Someone will figure it out, for sure.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 03:50 PM

i figured the batteries were in the rear, was worried that the plunger assembly went that far back as well. Since I havent had my hands on one yet my ideas are purely theoretical. it only takes 9v of power but Im wondering how much mAh this beast needs to run. Hiding behind a gun mounted shield seems strange, but we'll see how well they playtest. Nerf is definately heading in the right direction with the newer weapons. I'm glad they are taking some of their inspirations from the modding community.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 04:25 PM

I'm glad they are taking some of their inspirations from the modding community.

They really aren't though. People seem to think that the Magstrike was inspired by how we modified the PC, but I asked about it and it wasn't the case. The Magstrike had removable clips as they were leaning towards a clip system. The designer I talked to knew about the PC mods, but the modders had no influence on them. They have test groups that contain their target audience. I also got the answer as to why all the blasters in recent years have all been springers. Their groups have said they want fast reloading (clips), more ammo capacity (drum clips and the new 18-shot clip) and faster priming (springs). They don't want to be reloading multiple chambers like with the Magstrike and pumping it like crazy every time they run out of air or darts.

When in combat, the Stampede would truly be superior as you don't even need to prime the blaster, simply pull the trigger. Reloading clips is faster as you don't have to chamber back the bolt to release and reinsert the clips. Now all you do is push the button, release the clip, insert a new one and start shooting. It is also cost efficient to do springers than it is for air bladders, both in material costs and engineering.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 04:39 PM

I'm glad they are taking some of their inspirations from the modding community.

They really aren't though. People seem to think that the Magstrike was inspired by how we modified the PC, but I asked about it and it wasn't the case. The Magstrike had removable clips as they were leaning towards a clip system. The designer I talked to knew about the PC mods, but the modders had no influence on them. They have test groups that contain their target audience. I also got the answer as to why all the blasters in recent years have all been springers. Their groups have said they want fast reloading (clips), more ammo capacity (drum clips and the new 18-shot clip) and faster priming (springs). They don't want to be reloading multiple chambers like with the Magstrike and pumping it like crazy every time they run out of air or darts.

When in combat, the Stampede would truly be superior as you don't even need to prime the blaster, simply pull the trigger. Reloading clips is faster as you don't have to chamber back the bolt to release and reinsert the clips. Now all you do is push the button, release the clip, insert a new one and start shooting. It is also cost efficient to do springers than it is for air bladders, both in material costs and engineering.



So basically their focus group wants nerf to be more like airsoft. It makes sense considering the recent obsession over COD.

I'm going to wait for internal pics before deciding if I want to buy this thing. The last time everyone got excited over a battery powered nerf gun, I ended up with three vulcans sitting in my basement and a much lighter wallet.
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Posted 18 July 2010 - 10:14 AM

Hot damn!

i really was going to avoid this sucker but now that i see it in action i may just have to start saving my pennies!

The design is really sleek and i like the add ons a lot more than i thought i would.

How well do the shield and grip/bipod hold on? they looked pretty sturdy in the videos but typically i couldnt immagine something that big gripping on too well.

Also. did i read that correctly that it will come with THREE 18 shot clips?
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