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[Lion]

I don't tend to post in threads about stuff and things, but did you ever get final ranges, or did I miss them?

[Ryan201821]

I don't tend to post in threads about stuff and things, but did you ever get final ranges, or did I miss them?

Well you probably shouldn't if you're not going to read it.

...At the moment, it isn't quite working as properly as I'd like, because I did another dumb thing with the catch. Once I make it actually slide smoothly, it will shoot ridiculously, because right now as a pull-and-release gun with my sixteen inch +bow polyester speed loader, it nearly breaks one hundred.

[Ice Nine]

I don't tend to post in threads about stuff and things, but did you ever get final ranges, or did I miss them?

Really? It's not hard to read. At all.

Anyways, just range-tested it. Indoors, sixteen inch barrel, red airjet micro converted dart with slingshot weight.

Laser straight. After dart skip, bounced off a wall one hundred and fifty-six feet and eight inches away from the starting point. Even if it skipped twenty feet, it's breaking one thirty on the fly. This was repeated several times.

This is excellent.

[CaliforniaPants]

Super sweet, the channeled plunger rod is especially nice.

[Ryan201821]

You guys have yet to see the best part. I ordered those valves, yo.

[Lion]

I don't tend to post in threads about stuff and things, but did you ever get final ranges, or did I miss them?

Well you probably shouldn't if you're not going to read it.

...At the moment, it isn't quite working as properly as I'd like, because I did another dumb thing with the catch. Once I make it actually slide smoothly, it will shoot ridiculously, because right now as a pull-and-release gun with my sixteen inch +bow polyester speed loader, it nearly breaks one hundred.

You probably shouldn't respond if you're not going to read the question, or get the humor of it.

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Laser straight. After dart skip, bounced off a wall one hundred and fifty-six feet and eight inches away from the starting point. Even if it skipped twenty feet, it's breaking one thirty on the fly. This was repeated several times.

This is excellent.

Awesome, Thank you.

Edited by Lion, 16 February 2010 - 11:01 AM.

[jakejagan]

Excellent modification. I have one question for you though. Is this modification durable? When I mean durable, I mean that it will be able to last for a few wars or 1 at the least?

[Zorns Lemma]

Excellent modification. I have one question for you though. Is this modification durable? When I mean durable, I mean that it will be able to last for a few wars or 1 at the least?

Durability of a modification is almost never inherent to the concept but rather in the execution.

[Ryan201821]

You probably shouldn't respond if you're not going to read the question, or get the humor of it.

I did read the question. The only thing humorous is your stupidity.

[jakejagan]

I understand that was not the point of it. I was just curious to see if it is. With a strong spring like the [k26], the internals ought to be solid. Again, I was just curious to see if it was.

Edited by jakejagan, 16 February 2010 - 02:19 PM.

[Ice Nine]

I understand that was not the point of it. I was just curious to see if it is. With a strong spring like the k26, the internals ought to be solid. Again, I was just curious to see if it was.

The spring plate is bolted to the plunger tube in four places. The plunger support is solvent welded to the plunger and sits against some of the strongest internal supports in the gun.

It should last for a long time.

[jakejagan]

That's cool. Is solvent weld sold at OSH and what is it called? Could I get a part number possibly?

[Ice Nine]

That's cool. Is solvent weld sold at OSH and what is it called? Could I get a part number possibly?

You should read this thread:

http://nerfhaven.com...topic=18527&hl=

Essentially, look for PVC cement. Christie's red-hot blue goo (or whatever it's called) works well but I'm pretty sure you can't go wrong with any kind of PVC cement.

[Coop]

Wow, that looks amazing. Great use of a Tornado shell and very nice work on the write-up!

[billyblue888]

It's just screaming to have a 2k integrated under where the barrel is.

[Ice Nine]

Wow, that looks amazing. Great use of a Tornado shell and very nice work on the write-up!

Thank you.

It's just screaming to have a 2k integrated under where the barrel is.

You didn't infer, did you?



That is a better integration. And I have some fun plans for it.

[Draconis]

The underslung BBBB tank needs a ball barrel.

[TantumBull]

While I was reading through the thread I found that you said you were having trouble with the catch, something about it not sliding properly. What exactly is the problem? Is there just too much friction on the piece it slides over?

[Ice Nine]

While I was reading through the thread I found that you said you were having trouble with the catch, something about it not sliding properly. What exactly is the problem? Is there just too much friction on the piece it slides over?

I was dumb and didn't use the right size spacer pieces. The nylon spacers are far superior to those brass ones.

Edited by Ice Nine, 17 February 2010 - 08:44 PM.

[Ice Nine]

I changed the design of the gun at the last mod party to use half-inch round nylon rod for a plunger rod, rather than three-eighths PVC square. The PVC just flexes too much to be proper useful, which is unfortunate because mass difference is significant.

I also revised my catch design slightly, and took pictures of it, but left that camera at Ryan's place. I can update the thread with a better explanation of my catch mechanism and what went wrong initially once they get up to Photobucket.

Beaver's got finished and they did a video of it firing, which should give you guys some idea of what it's like:



His is different than mine in that it has around three-quarters of an inch less draw.

I also made progress on the next part:



Apparently the top stem between tanks isn't actually a port, but a support. It only got in the way for my trigger mechanism. I did not expect it to be like that when I cut it off.

Here's the other bit:



Quick-disconnect vinyl tubing couplers with SHUTOFF VALVES (my bad) built in. The way the gun is shaping up, I won't have a way to put a pretty pump in, so I'm keeping my options open with this. I have a couple ideas for alternative priming systems that are more contained that a pump, and the OPRV is still solvent welded in the back of the tank.

Edited by Ice Nine, 21 February 2010 - 09:19 PM.

[Merzlin]

Holy shit man, I can't wait to see this in person. It's kind of interesting that Buzz-bee made the top pillar for structural support, rather than a channel to the dump valve.

[Ice Nine]

Holy shit man, I can't wait to see this in person. It's kind of interesting that Buzz-bee made the top pillar for structural support, rather than a channel to the dump valve.

You even get to see all the special other things I have planned. Be excited, Merz.

Anyways, here's the new catch:



I cut it out of 1/4" PVC sheet so I didn't have to put the other piece on to meet the trigger. Here you can also see the brass spacers I used on mine, but they're super thin so Danny B's 'Bow has washers for slug darts there.







Works much more smoothly than the other version. This one is a much nicer overall catch, even if Ryan and I had to "mill" the shells more to get them to fit.



Supa' fancy new plunger rod for Daniel Beaver. Gonna replace mine with it, and would have if nylon hadn't decided to fuck up everything in its path and melt. At least his got done.



Put a thinner washer on the front of the plunger head. This way I get the tiniest bit more travel out of it. Fun stuff.



That's the little screw piece I used for my spring holder. It works fantastically.



And there it is, in its improved and beautiful state. I gave all my darts to Ryan and he died before we left so I can't range test this one now, but Beavers was shooting over one hundred easy with improper dart/barrel and way less travel than mine.

I still need to improve one or two aspects of the gun (like the handle return) but basically at this point this is your Tornadobow.

Edited by Ice Nine, 21 February 2010 - 09:52 PM.

[Ryan201821]

Tornadowbow X/2

Made the internals in a few hours. Much less shell raping than the original Tornadobow.



Modified +bow catch





Mad seal



Mad springs - [k26] and some other random spring



Catch notch one



Catch notch two





Complete



This had to be done, and was a quick easy project. Later I might put in a stock to guide the plunger rod, but it's fine as it is now. I'm getting +bow ranges out of this. 100-120' w/ Slugs depending on which catch notch, and really really far with slingshot weights.

[CaptainSlug]

This thread makes me feel like a proud grandparent might when shown pictures of his grandchildren.

Oh, and get off my lawn.