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#26 alberty

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 04:02 PM

By designating "must hit" areas, the power chair in effect becomes one of the Holy Grails of nerfing - the tank.

Aside from the blasters we've been thinking of for him, he could also be equipped with several rocket/arrow blasters--Titan (not singled of course), BBB, Big Salvo, Arrowstorm, etc...to go along with the rapid fire guns. This would be an intimidating tank to approach an enemy stronghold with! For fun of course, unless you can be really accurate with those types of ammo.

Yes, hit rules are a good thing to think about, but for now, I suppose the first priority of the thread should be what to equip this "tank" with :lol:

EDIT: I just realized that the OP mentioned that the group is mostly using stock blasters and stock darts! The small targets idea would probably be pretty fair. This is silly but I watched some videos of powerchairs moving and it seems they can turn at a decent speed, good enough to "dodge" rear hits, and then gets you turned around to fire back at the attacker. Also, that would help do a 360 degree spray of darts from Magstrikes or RF20s...maybe.

Edited by alberty, 29 January 2010 - 04:07 PM.

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#27 Mehku

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 04:39 PM

You could mount a rear-view mirror like in a car to his chair so that he can see behind him. If you really wanted to go nuts with this, in addition to the mirror, you could try to mount a rapid fire 20 on the back of the chair with a special trigger set-up. That way, he could fire at people who are behind him as well.
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#28 KitAdrian

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 10:17 PM

Question: Is the powerchair he uses like a Rascal (steering handlebar up front), or like a standard wheelchair with a joystick on one side?

If the former, I'd suggest a fixed-mount Vulcan on the handlebars, with the electric trigger re-positioned to the handlebar.

Of course, if it's more like a chair, you could do the same, but he wouldn't have quite as easy a time panning the weapon, as it'd be mounted to the side, and the trigger on the joystick.

This has the added benefit that it allows him to have a sidearm that he can use when he can't easily bring the Vulcan to bear.
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 11:30 PM

i was amazed that it took so long (up to Mr. Badwrench) for someone to mention jamming the trigger on the raider. someone else mentioned that the chair has the capacity to hold large amounts of ammo. Hook him up with as many clips as you can and send him out with a raider and he should be able to rain darts down like arrows of death from the heavens.

(A long range gun like a spring loaded 4B would also do nicely as a backup incase he cant drive quick enough to dodge.)
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#30 Vinnie D

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 06:04 AM

Does this thing have an electrical outlet on it anywhere? I'm thinking of a plug in mod on two vulcans and go to town. Alternately Magstrikes with an air compressor. He'd be great at rushing if he can hit some decent speeds in that thing. Essentially the "OH SHIT" mobile. When you see him coming, raining down hundreds of darts, you can only declare "OH SHIT!" and hope to outrange him before you get inside his kill radius.
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#31 Naes Draw

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 01:26 PM

If you want a look at the chair, here are some pictures.

http://images.google...start=0&ndsp=21

Right now, I think a MS/RF20 with a compressor is the way to go on a primary, possibly with a saw-off Tommy 20 as a secondary.

I'll let him look at my Powerclip and Wildfire to see what he thinks there.

Also, I'm currently thinking that a hit on his body is a hit. That way, it doesn't pay off to sneak behind him, and puts people more in front.

Edited by Naes Draw, 30 January 2010 - 01:44 PM.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:00 AM

If you are using stefans, you could make a metal target of some kind so that it made a very distinctive sound when it was hit.

In terms of guns, I think that a MS or PC would not work primarily because once you pull the trigger, almost all of your shots are gone. A RF20 would be better, but personally, I think that he would be best equipped with Badwrench's Raider setup, and a BBBB that had a spring loaded pump so that he could return fire to far away targets.

On another note, would it be at all possible to make a Longshot have slam-fire capabilites? If so, you could give it a foregrip and a Raider drum. It would eliminate the need for a BBBB because he would be able to get off 100' shots with great ease.
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 01:25 PM

Like others have said, I think that a Vulcan would be the best option; you can get about 25 feet out of it, it's automatic, and you can operate it with one hand (I know, my middle finger was in a splint in a time that I was using it, I just held it with my arm on the bottom, but your friend's thigh could serve the same purpose).
Although if you wanted something with a bit more range, then a Magstrike with a PVC hard tank or an HPA tank strapped to the side or the back of the chair would be a great option, since you can get about 50 feet with that iirc, and fire off about 3 clips at a time before filling the bladder again. (If you band it)
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#34 Vinnie D

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 05:28 AM

If you go with a magstrike or a powerclip, band the piston to slow down the rate of fire, to be able to get a better burst or sustained fire, rather than blowing the whole load at once.
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#35 CA13

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 08:13 PM

With all of the blasters it would be nice to extend the trigger like a paintball double trigger for added leverage. You should also think about assembling maybe 5 marvelous salvos for his use.
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Posted 14 February 2010 - 09:12 AM

I played nerf with my friend last night whose in a chair, but his is just a bog standard wheel chair so he had to wheel him around.

We found best way for him to be involved is to be considered like movable heavy artillery so he'd wheel himself somewhere with a bit of cover and a good line of site and just have a vulcan with 3 belts and he'd just hammer anyone coming into his line of site and then he had a nitefinder by his leg.

We also stated only head and torso shots count, no legs, gun, wheels etc.

it seemed to work really well, even offered him a magstrike at one point and he just wasn't into it, leaves you too unprotected, 1 second all your darts are gone then you have to pump 20+ times to reload and whole most of us would run away it just doesn't work, might be good as the sidearm instead of the nitefinder but I wouldn't recommend an air blaster as a primary, has to be something with high capacity clips and quick reload like a vulcan or raider.

He probably could have handled 2 vulcans with them on straps but he was pretty devastating with just 1 and lots of darts.

Hope this helps

Also a big part of it is making it not seem like a big hassle for them to play, no constructing tanks for a chair that is specifically for them and only they can use, just a normal weapon, for a normal game with normal people, well as normal as Nerfer's get :D
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#37 Naes Draw

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 06:51 PM

I know I'm necroing myself here a bit but I wanted to ask for an opinion.

We have a new space, so I'm modifying the ranges to short to mid.

As of right now, I'm figuring three blasters, A NF for fast and easy to reload, a minimized T20 for the rapid fire, and...this is my question.

I was thinking to round out the collection, something air powered, compact but have range, since he'd be using it at a distance, he could get away with more of a priming time.

The ideal, and what I'd probably loan him for now, is the AT2k, small, three quick pumps, four shots before reloading. It's also slightly modded, so it has a small boost there.

The problem with this, is finding another AT2k. Is there something more or less available that roughly matches the same specs? I'm willing to get inventive, but only to a point, busy as of late.

We are meeting the first of May, so I have some time, but I want to be ready.

EDIT: The chair also has a pretty decent cruising speed, so rushing isn't a problem - reminding him not to run people over is. :)

Edited by Naes Draw, 13 April 2010 - 09:28 PM.

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#38 ilzot

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 08:58 PM

I'd reccomend a Big Blast personally.

It can go as easy as cutting below the 2 holes and having a loose-fitting barrel for streamlines reaching up to 120 feet in 10-ish pumps, or pimping it out with a new pump and couplered and what not and break 150.

It's up to you but they're quick (5 minutes for the basic mod.), cheap ($5 at the right place), and effective (up to 130 feet for minimal modding.
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... to be able to get a better burst or sustained fire, rather than blowing the whole load at once.


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Posted 14 April 2010 - 04:27 PM

I would go with the big blast. You can always take a turret from another gun if you want more rof. The longer range will help offset any disadvantage from the power chair. If you want to go the extra mile, you could create an external tank that would hang on the power chair.
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 05:32 PM

I think the Big Blast would work. As others have said a turret would help a lot.
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:10 PM

Turrets would be too finicky and if you want one-handed operation it would require him to put the gun down to rotate it. Use a hopper clip with cheesy's new "dart flap" thing.
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:24 PM

That all depends on the turret really. If a Tek 6 turret were to be used, then yes, not good for one hand oporation. But if a Tek 10 and possibly a Fire Fly turret is used then he could just roll it on his leg to advance the turret. Now that I think of it, the Tek 6 turret could even be used with one hand. If the barrels are long enough he could poke his foot or something with it and give it a twist.

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 11:30 AM

Well if you want exact same specs then I would suggest a supermaxx1500. Problem is is that they are really rare but I might know some people who can help you out though.
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 09:23 AM

Well if you want exact same specs then I would suggest a supermaxx1500. Problem is is that they are really rare but I might know some people who can help you out though.



They really aren't all that rare. Just expensive (around 45 bucks stock). But, Meatballica is right. A rear-loading sm1500 would be perfect for him.
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Posted 21 April 2010 - 12:33 PM

I think the biggest problem I'm seeing with a lot of these suggestions is, quite simply, pumping. Even if you attached a Big Blast to a bracket out in front of him, pumping it could be awkward. If you don't want his arm getting insanely tired from having to pump all the time without the added benefit of a second arm to do some of the work, I think your best bet would be a 3B.

Could we get a pic of the powerchair he has? Better yet, can you tell me what the brand name and model number is?

This is based on a non-powered wheelchair, but hear me out:
Attach the 3B's front handle to a small frame, say, made from copper pipe and couplers, that extends out directly in front of him. Throw a speedloader-style staggered barrel on the thing, so it's easy to reload, and he's instantly able to prime the gun with one hand, aim and fire it with one hand, and all he has to do is let go of the back handle and it just rests in his lap, pointing the barrel up (and bringing it closer to him) for easy reloading/rotating of the barrel (again, with the same hand). The gun's already accurate, consistent, and a nice performer as far as range is concerned. The added benefit of having a frame to steady his shots would just make things even more fun for him.

If you're having trouble visualizing this, let's take a look at things from am MSPaint perspective:
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It could be made for under 10 bucks, and then strapped to the armrests relatively easily...say with a few zipties. Note that I didn't draw in his other hand, which would, of course, be controlling the wheelchair.

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If you're interested, but lacking materials, time, and/or drive to pull off something like this, I'm pretty thoroughly intrigued by the idea, and I've got a 3b lying around, so if you'd like to PM me some measurements of the wheelchair (specifically, the distance from just outside one armrest to the other) I could be persuaded to build one for you, work out the kinks, set up the 3B to shoot just about whatever you want, and ship it, on me.

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#46 Naes Draw

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 06:21 PM

There are pics here, and switching to "web" should give you more info http://images.google...start=0&ndsp=21


As to that idea, it's interesting! It does depend on placement however. With the rough layout you have there, I'm not sure he could reach it when it's pointed up. If it's brought closer, then issues with the extended end blocking it come into play.

I'm also unsure as to the 3B's contribution. Basically, unless it's a loaner from me, or people want to take the next step, the other blasters and ammo on the field are going to be stock. But with the change in balance, I guess a slight power boost might work, as long as modding is limited.

I think I'll see what he thinks.
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Posted 22 April 2010 - 02:40 PM

The system that falcon suggests could just as easily be done with a bbbb.

You could buy a bbbb and the parts to mod it for less than the cost of only the 3b.

A hopper clip or rscb on a bbbb would be more effective than a 3b with a speed loader.
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Posted 24 April 2010 - 12:19 AM

A hopper clip or rscb on a bbbb would be more effective than a 3b with a speed loader.

The problem is, they're using stock darts. I've never seen an RSCB setup that could work with stock darts. True enough, you could do this with a 4B, but they're trying to avoid being overpowered here, and a 3B can easily be kept within reasonable ranges and is far faster to prime. For that matter, we could always throw a gutted 2k turret on it, firing stock taggers.

As for the cost of the 3b, remember, I have a 1st edition 3b that I'm ready and willing to donate. I've been thinking about the setup a bit, and I may have devised a way to avoid the barrel swinging way up and out of the way. We've got a motorized wheelchair supplier here in town; I'm gonna go visit them this weekend and see if they have that model so I can take a closer look at it, and maybe bring a measuring tape along.

Whether you're interested or not...I kinda wanna make this just for fun. If you like what I build, it's yours. If not, no harm no foul.
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Posted 24 April 2010 - 08:37 AM

. We've got a motorized wheelchair supplier here in town; I'm gonna go visit them this weekend and see if they have that model so I can take a closer look at it, and maybe bring a measuring tape along.

Whether you're interested or not...I kinda wanna make this just for fun. If you like what I build, it's yours. If not, no harm no foul.


He's still thinking, but I'm thinking he'll go for it. The measurement from outside edge to outside edge on the arms is 22in.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 09:26 PM

He's cool with the idea. If you want to take things to PM we can.
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