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[jackalelf]

ok im new at modding and i need to know what i should use as a barrel for the tech target. I need sizes to fit stock micros and megas.

[Jangadance]

You would be well to pour through cxwq's article concerning darts and barrels, which can be found here. For regular Nerf brand Micro darts, 1/2" PVC is the best. Their rubber tips have a 5/8" inner diameter, same as 1/2" PVC. This means that 5/8" foam backer rod (used for insulation) will be a good material to make your own darts out of for use in 1/2" PVC. You could use Ragornock's mod in which he uses 1/2" PVC, just adapt it so that you don't use the brass. Good luck, have fun.

[jackalelf]

well thanks anyways for the link and your advice, im going to start tomorrow.

[jackalelf]

Corrosponding with my previous question, i picked up a chunk of 1/2 PVC. I need to know what size i should cut it, similar to Ragnarok's old modification, except with PVC and not brass.

[Ragornocks]

Same size should work, anywhere between 4"-6" will do fine. If you're breeching, use the 6", if you're ramming the dart up front, use a 4" chuck.

[jackalelf]

thx rag!

[cxwq]

I merged your topics. You don't need to create a new thread when you're still asking about more or less the same thing.

[jackalelf]

O. Thx for telling me.

[Talio]

Actually I disagree on the barrel length. Both Evil and myself have done the same barrel mod and it works better then those who used 4 - 6 inches. Make the barrel as long as the gun, meaning hook it up to the plunger tube and cut off right were the barrel comes out of the gun. Happy hunting,

Talio.

[jackalelf]

k im having ANOTHER problem (well, not really). While modding my gun, my catch spring (or something like that, i dunno) flew out, and i can't find it. Does anybody know wat it does and whether or not i need it?

O, and Talio, do u mean attaching the length of PVC (which happens to be 9 inches) to the plastic casing aroung the spring? Cuz that would just be replacing 4-6 inches with 9 inches.

[Ares]

Your TTG catch spring flew out? That happened to me 3 times on the same TTG. I spent over 45 minutes on the ground in my garage looking for the blasted thing. That's the spring that cocks that gun. See, here's how most Nerf cockers, in some way or the other, work:

You pull back the plunger. The plunger pushes the main spring against a small wall (with a hole in the center that the plunger goes through), compressing the main spring. The plunger has a small nick in it. The catch spring pushes the catch onto the plunger. The catch catches the plunger in the small nick. When you pull the trigger, the catch goes up, releasing the plunger witht he force of the main spring.

Okay. Simple. That's a basic. You lost the catch spring. Now, that's gennerally not a good thing.. However, I've heard that with tech targets, the catch may still work somehow. I dunno. You could always userubber bands out the bottom connected to the catch. I quote almighty cxwq, "I decided that spreme accuracy and steward reliability were the most important qualities in a sidearm." Without an item of any sort "powering" that catch, you'll ver well have a very UNRELIABLE SIDEARM.

[jackalelf]

Well, after reading over your "in depth" explanation of what the catch spring does, i tested it out. Without the catch spring, i assembled everything as a stock gun. When i fired, however, the dart actually came out at the same distance as before. Then i pulled back the plunger, and SLOWLY pulled off the casing. Looking at the plastic where the catch spring goes, it somehow was pushed DOWN, as if the spring was still there. I think because of how gravity pulls it down, like when you are holding the gun regularly, the catch will naturally fall down, stimulating an actual spring's job.

In conclusion, I think the catch spring for the TTG is unnecesssary, unless you like to hold your gun upside down or something, I dunno. I think we all agree on the fact that looking for a lost catch spring can be irritating, time-consuming, and frustating, much like how this reply is.

[J cobbers]

Jackalelf,
Gravity will not provide enough force to allow the catch to operate close the gun
and try it. You do need a spring in there. Here are some options for a replacement.
1) ball point pens, they clicky kind. These are a great source for replacements but you may need to cut it down to fit in the the catch.
2) Bic mechanical pencils, the really cheap black ones. The spring is encased in the plastic near the writing end. Take a plyers and brake the pencil up until you get the spring. Again you may need to cut to fit.
3) Other guns. A return spring from an Air tec or SuperMaxx gun is often not needed and can be subistutited.
4) Go to a hardware store and look at the springs to see if they have what you need.

Happy hunting and hope your mod turns out well.

Edit: WHoot 100th post in under three months and almost none of them were crappy, poorly written, or got me involved in hidious flame wars. Go me! Ok I'm done bragging sorry about that.

Edited by J_cobbers, 17 February 2004 - 10:58 AM.

[cxwq]

I quote almighty cxwq, "I decided that spreme accuracy and steward reliability were the most important qualities in a sidearm."

<Freshman Comp Rant Mode>

Glad you like my mod writeups but I'm pretty sure I never used the word `steward' to describe reliability. If you're going to use double quotes, take a second to check the source.

Either of these would be fine:

"I opted to take a more conservative approach in the belief that accuracy and reliability are the most important qualities in a sidearm."

"[I believe] that accuracy and reliability are the most important qualities in a sidearm."

</Freshman Comp Rant Mode>

[THIRST]

Actually, those people who said you need a spring are wrong. Gravity is enough force to give you a nice sidearm, you just cant cock it upside down, which Im sure isnt a big deal right? If your paranoid, do what Cobbers said and get yourself a clicky pen, and use that spring.

THIRST

[jackalelf]

Thank you THIRST for backing me up, lets see. If u do have a tech target, and have some free time on your hands, go ahead and take out the catch spring. O, and J_cobbers, you should try it out too if you have one. Its not like the catch piece is being squeezed by the casing, so gravity does have an effect on it.

Note: If I do find my lost spring, then all is well. If I don't, all is still well. I'm not spending like a dollar on a spring that I don't really need.

Another note: This is my very first subject I brought up here at NerfHaven. It already has more than ten posts (half of them are mine, some of which are worthless!).

While I'm at it, what should I use to stick my 1/2 PVC barrel onto my plunger tube thingy? Cuz I tried Plumber's Goop, but it didn't stay very well.

[THIRST]

Load on lots of plumbers goop, and wait 48 hours.

THIRST

[jackalelf]

Haha no wonder it didn't stay on. I put a microscopic amount (no, not really) of the stuff on and waited 5 hours. Thx THIRST.

[J cobbers]

Actually, those people who said you need a spring are wrong. Gravity is enough force to give you a nice sidearm, you just cant cock it upside down, which Im sure isnt a big deal right? If your paranoid, do what Cobbers said and get yourself a clicky pen, and use that spring.

THIRST

Just cause you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

I do enjoy the security of knowing I can cock my tech target while hanging upside down in a tree to fire on my unsuspecting victim and trying not to pass out.