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#1 Vaccaro104

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 05:27 PM

So I recently bought a Vulcan, left it in my brother's hands for an hour or so, and when I came back, the plunger tube (?) (the part of the plunger that becomes visible when the gun is cocked) is now permanantly stuck in the visible position... also, when I pull the trigger with the motor on, the motor whizzes and whirs, but the chain doesn't advance (the wheels don't even spin).
Any suggestions/ideas as to what may be wrong?
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#2 diamondbacknf1626

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 05:30 PM

My brother actually had a similar problem with his vulcan. However, instead of being stuck in the out postition, the piece would not push outwards when firing and the belt would not advance. It turned out that a piece inside had snapped, and we replaced it with the same piece from another vulcan. I'm not sure if you could have a similar problem. Have you tried to manually push the piece back in?
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#3 Vaccaro104

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 05:33 PM

Yeah, I tried to push it in with my hand, but it's firmly stuck in the position.
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 05:40 PM

Yeah, I tried to push it in with my hand, but it's firmly stuck in the position.


I hate to say this, considering what hell opening up a Vulcan is, but you're going to have to open it up and take a look. I'd venture to say a piece has snapped inside, but I can only guess based upon a similar experience. Once you open it up, take pictures of anything that appears out of the ordinary, and then maybe we can help you diagnose the problem and find a solution. I'd recommend the search function, but I'm unaware of any threads regarding this.
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 05:44 PM

Yeah, I tried to push it in with my hand, but it's firmly stuck in the position.


I hate to say this, considering what hell opening up a Vulcan is, but you're going to have to open it up and take a look. I'd venture to say a piece has snapped inside, but I can only guess based upon a similar experience. Once you open it up, take pictures of anything that appears out of the ordinary, and then maybe we can help you diagnose the problem and find a solution. I'd recommend the search function, but I'm unaware of any threads regarding this.


Ugh I was afraid of that...
I guess I'll try and snap some pictures.
Thanks for the help.
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 05:47 PM

Yeah, it's not exactly the most fun thing in the world. Especially when you need to open two in order to retrieve the part from one and put it in the other. It'll pay off, though. You may even want to do some simple mods while you have the gun open. Anyway, edit the pictures in once you've opened it, that way we'll be able to help out more. No problem, I try.
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 06:09 PM

Yeah, it's not exactly the most fun thing in the world. Especially when you need to open two in order to retrieve the part from one and put it in the other. It'll pay off, though. You may even want to do some simple mods while you have the gun open. Anyway, edit the pictures in once you've opened it, that way we'll be able to help out more. No problem, I try.


I'm doing something similar to this with my vulcans. I opened one up (to look for differences) and fixed one that had recently broken. When I went to put the broken one back togther, It wouldn't work (issues with the plunger tube). So now I am in the same position I am before. This brings me to my advice: BE CAREFULL, and don't remove anything unless you know how to put it back correctly. Once you have opened the gun a few times, its easy, however, there are so many parts that figuring out every little possible fault is time consuming.

EDIT: definitely do simple mods like diamondbacknf says. Mods like hte AR mod are easy to carry out, and worth it.

Edited by durka durka, 24 February 2009 - 06:11 PM.

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 07:05 PM

definitely do simple mods like diamondbacknf says. Mods like hte AR mod are easy to carry out, and worth it.


Several people, including Splitlip with his crazy Vulcan overhaul, have stated that taking out the AR does nothing to improve ranges.
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 08:07 PM

definitely do simple mods like diamondbacknf says. Mods like hte AR mod are easy to carry out, and worth it.


Several people, including Splitlip with his crazy Vulcan overhaul, have stated that taking out the AR does nothing to improve ranges.


It does nothing to make them worse, either. It's more for stefan compatibility than ranges.
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 08:12 PM

Ar removal actually does make a slight difference in ranges. However, it is more productive if you accompany it with other modifications suchs replacing the stock spring with one more powerful, or adding a spring, for that matter. You can also modify the source of power. Although this is not the most simple modification you can perform, using an r/c car battery can improve performace dramatically. Though I personally am not a huge fan of the Vulcan, do all those mods plus a 50 round belt and an increased capacity amo box (courtesy of SN), and you've got yourself a hell of a foam flinging machine gun.

I would definitey recommend doing the mods listed above. Also, maybe even a minimization. The gun is significantly lighter afterwards. Most important though, like durka durka said, make sure you can put it all back in place correctly. If you need to (and I would very much recommend this), take some detailed pics of the internals before removing anything from the gun. This way, you can refer to those for help if you need assistance in reassembling the gun.

EDIT- AssassinNF, nice point about stefan compatability. Even if ranges are not improved, that becomes a great benefit.

Edited by diamondbacknf1626, 24 February 2009 - 08:16 PM.

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 08:21 PM

Same thing happened the day I got my first Vulcan. I just took it back and exchanged it. Sorry I don't know how to help. Hasbro, fix it! <_<
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 10:33 PM

I honestly don't know why everyone has so many problems with their Vulcans. I've got like four of the damn things, and none of them have ever given me any grief. No mater how many times I've cracked 'um open and fiddled with the insides. I must have somehow picked out the four most reliable Vulcans Hasbro has made, and two of them were from Goodwill (one for $10.99 and one for $12.99!) . Any who, I've noticed that sometimes if you are firing on full auto, and let go of the trigger while it's still cycling the belt the part of the plunger that juts out does stay there (much like shutting off you car with the windshield wipers still up) , when this happens to me, I just have to pull the manual priming handle and it pops back into place.


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#13 SchizophrenicMC

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 11:18 PM

I honestly don't know why everyone has so many problems with their Vulcans. I've got like four of the damn things, and none of them have ever given me any grief. No mater how many times I've cracked 'um open and fiddled with the insides. I must have somehow picked out the four most reliable Vulcans Hasbro has made, and two of them were from Goodwill (one for $10.99 and one for $12.99!) . Any who, I've noticed that sometimes if you are firing on full auto, and let go of the trigger while it's still cycling the belt the part of the plunger that juts out does stay there (much like shutting off you car with the windshield wipers still up) , when this happens to me, I just have to pull the manual priming handle and it pops back into place.


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That's a normal plunger jam.

This is the more serious one where the entire mechanism jams behind it. I don't know how to repair it...
This actually makes pulling back the priming handle impossible.

Edited by SchizophrenicMC, 24 February 2009 - 11:19 PM.

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QUOTE(NerfUK @ May 8 2009, 11:54 AM) View Post

(I forgot to take a picture of my own poppers)

QUOTE(analogkid @ May 20 2009, 10:04 PM) View Post

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