I'm currently working on integration brackets.Ha. I built my own, and after all the mess ups, I spent a total of about 60-70 dollars. but I gained alot of experience.
Also, thanks for your plunger head design Rork. I used that instead, and my ranges improved dramatically. its great.
I'm glad to see the design being used. There are a few of these popping up here and there now...
#26
Posted 21 September 2008 - 10:42 PM
#27
Posted 21 September 2008 - 10:47 PM
Just something to throw in. The only homemades i've ever seen banned have been pump guns.
Because most PVC air cannons are insane and not safe for shooting at anything other than low-flying aircraft.
Probably dead by now, or something.
#28
Posted 21 September 2008 - 11:03 PM
I know it's been covered, but I thought I should mention myself that rork asked me beforehand about selling his SNAPbows, and I of course said yes. I put out my designs so people could evolve it and expand on it, so he didn't really have to do that...but it does show that he's approaching the whole thing with a degree of class, and I appreciate it.All it is is one of carbon's snaps with a stock and a tee coupler for a handle. I think rork should of consulted with carbon before selling his overpriced snaps.
As far as squabbling over rork "overpricing". The hard fact is that homemades are seldom (if ever) priced at what they're worth, as far as time and development. I was selling my basic SNAP at $25 + shipping, which in retrospect was a little underpriced as far as time it takes to make them (between running around gathering parts, and actual physical labor. Nevermind development time). Rork has developed a handful of great tweaks that push the range of a standard SNAP well above 100'. Between that and the additional work required to add a stock and whatnot, $52 is quite reasonable.
Aafter all, if you think it's overpriced...build one. Rork gave you a great writeup to do just that.
#29
Posted 21 September 2008 - 11:14 PM
I'm with Nonsense on this one. I just made Carbons SNAP 1.5 and It only cost $25-30 in materials, and now I can make at least 3 more. So, $52 shipped seems a lot. It only took 4 hours to make if you followed Carbons set up and his measurements. And I think you made your SNAPbow a little more complicated than it should be. I didn't use a +bow spring in mine, but used a handyman spring and a BBB spring, and I'm guessing I get around 80-9'(Not exact here). But 120' with a +bow spring, that's insane. Whats holding the couplers together? I would think that that kind of a spring will fuck up the gun fairly easily. I know that cause just with the 2 springs, one of my rubber washers got torn.Oh shit sorry I just read your writeup. I was confusing this with the snap with the cardboard on it to make it look like a plusbow. But for the price of materials I don't think a $30 fee for work is applicable. Carbon was selling the same thing minus the stock for $20 ( I think don't quote me on it).
#30
Posted 21 September 2008 - 11:43 PM
<a href="http://nerfhaven.com...howtopic=20409" target="_blank">Make it pump-action</a>
#31
Posted 21 September 2008 - 11:52 PM
Edit:beaten like a redheaded stepchild.
Double edit: If you feel rork is ripping people off, you should try building a few of your own guns and selling them. See if you're still willing to sell them at cost after you've put in a solid day of labor.
Edited by Langley, 21 September 2008 - 11:55 PM.
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#32
Posted 21 September 2008 - 11:54 PM
Edited by nerfer9, 21 September 2008 - 11:55 PM.
#33
Posted 21 September 2008 - 11:57 PM
<a href="http://nerfhaven.com...howtopic=20409" target="_blank">Make it pump-action</a>
#34
Posted 22 September 2008 - 05:46 AM
I'm sorry but I don't believe anything you say. Your the one asking for crossbow parts (every one) for $80.00. I don't think anyone takes your word. I've used both guns, the +bow I will say takes more time and is more difficult to make from the looks of things but the snap is NO WAY IN HELL an inaccurate shot. Unless your using streamlines or retarded stefans, all shots are perfect. Since you made your own (so you say) then it may not have been done correctly. Maybe you used the wrong spring, or just fucked up in all. The point is that people were saying the SNAP can't compete with the +bow. And I think there wrong. They're both great guns, and everyone should try making them. It's my new primary and i'm choosing it over my crossbow.I have made a snapbow and a + bow (the plus bow was the most challenging thing I had to do- EVER), But the + bow was undoubtedly the most awsome. The accuracy was OFF THE CHARTS, better than the snapbow. Infact the snapbows accuracy sucked horribly.
#35
Posted 22 September 2008 - 07:45 AM
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#36
Posted 22 September 2008 - 09:44 AM
Now shut up about this homemade until you have seen one in action, except to tell Rork and Carbon how genius they are for coming up with an incredible homemade alternative!
#37
Posted 22 September 2008 - 12:58 PM
Edited by NerfOnFier, 22 September 2008 - 01:01 PM.
#38
Posted 22 September 2008 - 01:05 PM
#39
Posted 22 September 2008 - 02:11 PM
#40
Posted 22 September 2008 - 02:49 PM
I second that. The creation is amazing from what I hear, but there are ways you could make it better, smaller, cheaper, ect. Carbon also has made many different kinds of snaps, but I suppose that this is out of the question because it is supposed to be a blend of the snap and the plus-bow.One suggestion I have, other than stop bitching about the price, is for Rork. Revise it! I know Carbon revised the SNAP a ton before he decided to sell it. The SNAPbow has amazing performance but there are definitely some ways you could revise it to make it cheaper and easier to build.
#42
Posted 22 September 2008 - 04:25 PM
#43
Posted 22 September 2008 - 05:24 PM
#45
Posted 22 September 2008 - 07:25 PM
PS: Having said all that, if anyone's got any suggestions, make 'em.
<a href="http://nerfhaven.com...howtopic=20409" target="_blank">Make it pump-action</a>
#46
Posted 22 September 2008 - 08:00 PM
That;s the case for me right there. It's more fun making or modding guns than buying one already mad or modded. That kills the fun out of it. Rock, I love your extra rubber washer design. I'm going to go put and extra one(one of my torn ones) when I finish my damned homework. Again, I wouldn't pay $52 for that gun, but it's not my decision.I replaced the old style PVC plunger head in Daedalus with something similar to Carbon's fender washer design. I used a 1 1/4" washer on top of a ring of 0.093" polycarbonate. The weight savings boosted my range by about 10 ft. Carbon, awesome design, Rork, awesome adaptation, although I would NEVER pay someone to make a blaster for me. Its too much fun to do it myself.
#47
Posted 22 September 2008 - 08:24 PM
It may be more fun to mod guns yourself, but thats not the whole thing about nerf. Some people can't mod guns, so they have to buy them. I personally love modding and bought this one to have, and to create my own by looking at it in person. That's not the case for most people, one of my friends needs me to modify every gun for him. The kid needed me to put a coupler on a BBB, but he still loves to nerf.That;s the case for me right there. It's more fun making or modding guns than buying one already mad or modded. That kills the fun out of it. Rock, I love your extra rubber washer design. I'm going to go put and extra one(one of my torn ones) when I finish my damned homework. Again, I wouldn't pay $52 for that gun, but it's not my decision.I replaced the old style PVC plunger head in Daedalus with something similar to Carbon's fender washer design. I used a 1 1/4" washer on top of a ring of 0.093" polycarbonate. The weight savings boosted my range by about 10 ft. Carbon, awesome design, Rork, awesome adaptation, although I would NEVER pay someone to make a blaster for me. Its too much fun to do it myself.
PEOPLE WRITE SOME REVIEWS ON GUNS C'MON!!
#48
Posted 22 September 2008 - 08:27 PM
1. Make the trigger guard/foregrip and handle one piece. Make a long piece 1 1/4" PVC that acts as foregrip and trigger guard, then screw the handle onto that piece. Then attach the lower receiver to the blaster via screws. (something like the one DTReaper made).
2. Only use Screws, then everything is easily replaceable and you don't have to worry about glue/adhesives/etc. You've done a pretty good job of this, but I see glue in some places.
3. Keep making them! The more you make these the quicker you will be able to produce them. If the price of these things went down to even just $40, I could see you selling a lot more of them.
#49
Posted 22 September 2008 - 08:33 PM
#50
Posted 22 September 2008 - 08:35 PM
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