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#26 sputnik

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 03:59 PM

On topic, if anyone has successfully CPVC'ed their Ls, please let me know how you did it, i.e., materials, range, etc.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 06:27 PM

UPDATE
It got about 30' with a cdtd, so maybe the Streamlines had something to do with it.
Also, has anyone else replaced their Ls spring with a BBB and had it work?
What were the ranges?
thanks.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:08 PM

UPDATE
It got about 30' with a cdtd, so maybe the Streamlines had something to do with it.
Also, has anyone else replaced their Ls spring with a BBB and had it work?
What were the ranges?
thanks.


I don't know the range of it, but you just have to stick the BBB spring in there in addition to the longshot spring, and you have to add an extra spring to the catch plate.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:18 PM

Hey everybody, thanks for trying, but this fucking thing just isn't behaving.
I'm officially declaring it F.U.B.A.R.'ed, and CPVC'ing it.
That being said, what spring(s) need to be used in a CPVC Ls?
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:24 PM

I think it is the spring. It's too strong, which means the AR is restricting more airflow. Do a FA24 breach instead. It isn't that hard.

EDIT- A BBB spring should work just fine. It would work great with the LS spring too, with reinforcement.

Edited by xNFx 37, 03 April 2008 - 07:25 PM.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:25 PM

I can't believe this wasn't mentioned.

http://nerfhaven.com...30

I have a LS and NF spring combination and it fitted me best (not to strong or weak). I get ranges around 85-90 FT.

If you have any questions, PM me.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:28 PM

Thanks, i was hoping you would respond.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:31 PM

Thanks, i was hoping you would respond.


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I hope this helps.


Ok,
What you do is you take the plunger itself and empty it out, so it'll only be the plunger without the spring. you will cut off the existing stock barrel but will leave about two inches of it.

To glue it on, you will put some hot glue around the edge of the stock barrel and then aline the new CPVC barrel with it. Take the hot tip of your gluegun and melt the excess. This will leave a good coat of glue around the binding of the two barrels. You may need to put a lubricate to ease when you cock the gun because it will leave a lump between the binding.

But in order to cock the gun you need to do a precise measurement.
Cut off the orange nub of the stock barrel that connects to the blue arm. It's the one that has the pin. You are going to have to take off the jam door for this mod. you are going to drill a hole through the nub and the CPVC barrel. Mark where you are going to drill on the CPVC barrel WHEN THE GUN IS NOT COCKED. it'll be safe to make the hole slightly toward the plunger. If you make it too far, the gun will not cock and you need to start from square one. You're gonna put a screw through the nub and the barrel. The screw should provide a nice seal. you should screw it down till it touches the bottem part of the barrel.


I hope this helps.

Edited by CAPS, 03 April 2008 - 07:34 PM.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:42 PM

When I did this though I had a little leak around my screw so I had to put some hotglue around it but now it works fine, and be extreamly careful when puting the barrels together I had my dad make a peice that goes inside the original barrel stubb and then into the cpvc and it supports and keeps in place, and is farily sturdy, so if you have the means i suggest doing this. But other than that mine gets about 100' flat so i'm happy and it's cut down. I had it just regular legnth but my darts wern't coming with sufficient velocity for my likin so i cut the shell down and cut the barrel to about 7 1/2-8 effictive inches, so less friction when the dart comes =dart has more velocity.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:48 PM

So the screw keeps the dart from being sucked into the plunger tube right?
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:49 PM

So the screw keeps the dart from being sucked into the plunger tube right?

Thats one of it's uses but mostly it holds on the barrel to the bolt slide.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:53 PM

Alright, I'll do this either Friday night or Saturday.
I'll update when I do.
Thanks especially to CAPS and bogboogalars.

EDIT: do I have to cut off the front end of the gun, or can I just cut the barrel?

Edited by sputnik, 03 April 2008 - 07:55 PM.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 07:57 PM

Well you don't have too but I think it looks cool and i like it but sure you could probably just cut the barrel off instead of the whole gun.

Edit: if you need internal pics just pm me.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:00 PM

Well you don't have too but I think it looks cool and i like it but sure you could probably just cut the barrel off instead of the whole gun.

This is what the front looks like as of right now.
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I took the orange muzzle off and wrapped 3/4 PVC in duct tape until it was snug.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:02 PM

Have you already done the mod? or is that just cosmetic stuff right now?
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:05 PM

Have you already done the mod? or is that just cosmetic stuff right now?

No, not yet.
I did that last night, because I wanted the extended barrel and didn't feel like sanding out the muzzle.
So from there, would I need to cut the front off?
Also, the CPVC fits inside the stock barrel, right?

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:07 PM

If you need spare LS parts, I could bring some to the war.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:08 PM

If you need spare LS parts, I could bring some to the war.

Nah, unless its a spring/clips, I've got what I need.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:10 PM

No, but the front barrel the xtra long one will have to go for it to work but you can use the original barrel to nest the cpvc in, by the original one i mean use the shorter part of barrel between the front of the gun to the bolt.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:12 PM

No, but the front barrel the xtra long one will have to go for it to work but you can use the original barrel to nest the cpvc in...but the long one will have to go.

Why does the long one need to go...CAPS has the long barrel on his.
DO you mean that the long barrel will render it useless, or just less effective?

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:14 PM

Actually his is regular legnth he has his cut down, so it's still about eight to ten inches i believe.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:18 PM

As long as you don't glue it you're fine.

bogboogalars- If you want to dispute that, please share your evidince/reasoning.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:20 PM

As long as you don't glue what the long barrel or the cpvc?
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#49 Quilan Fett

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:21 PM

As long as you don't glue the CPVC to the inside of the barrel extension.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:23 PM

Yeah, but it will act like the original barrel did, the dart will bounce around inside it...but if it's removable it will be fine.
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