Silencers
#1
Posted 07 August 2007 - 01:51 PM
The fonz
#2
Posted 07 August 2007 - 02:22 PM
Founder of the Shadow Militia.
Founder of Nightshade Laboratories and The Nightshade Armament Corporation.
#3
Posted 07 August 2007 - 02:44 PM
I've even tried filling the inside of the plunger with foam, to cushion the impact, but it didn't work.
#4
Posted 07 August 2007 - 02:53 PM
Founder of the Shadow Militia.
Founder of Nightshade Laboratories and The Nightshade Armament Corporation.
#5
Posted 07 August 2007 - 03:13 PM
#6
Posted 07 August 2007 - 03:35 PM
(a) Firearm. -- The term "firearm" means (1) a shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (2) a weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (3) a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (4) a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (5) any other weapon, as defined in subsection (e); (6) a machinegun; (7) any silencer (as defined in section 921 of title 18, United States Code); and (8) a destructive device. The term "firearm" shall not include an antique firearm or any device (other than a machinegun or destructive device) which, although designed as a weapon, the Secretary finds by reason of the date of its manufacture, value, design, and other characteristics is primarily a collector's item and is not likely to be used as a weapon.
I doubt that you'll get any trouble for it, but it is something to consider. I think that NERF guns fall under the classification of a collectible.
I think that it would be really, really, stupid for some loophole to make nerf guns classified as firearms, but I'm not a lawyer, so I wouldn't know.
#7
Posted 07 August 2007 - 05:30 PM
Sure a nerf silencer will condence the sound a little bit, but it wont make any more than a few decibles quieter.
Edited by kurtcobain, 07 August 2007 - 05:34 PM.
The fonz
#8
Posted 07 August 2007 - 05:33 PM
I remember reading somewhere that any sort of weapon or something with a silencer on it is considered firearm. Here is what the National Firearms Act says:
(a) Firearm. -- The term "firearm" means (1) a shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (2) a weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (3) a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (4) a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (5) any other weapon, as defined in subsection (e); (6) a machinegun; (7) any silencer (as defined in section 921 of title 18, United States Code); and (8) a destructive device. The term "firearm" shall not include an antique firearm or any device (other than a machinegun or destructive device) which, although designed as a weapon, the Secretary finds by reason of the date of its manufacture, value, design, and other characteristics is primarily a collector's item and is not likely to be used as a weapon.
I doubt that you'll get any trouble for it, but it is something to consider. I think that NERF guns fall under the classification of a collectible.
I think that it would be really, really, stupid for some loophole to make nerf guns classified as firearms, but I'm not a lawyer, so I wouldn't know.
So just don't call it a silencer. It works differently, anyway.
#9
Posted 07 August 2007 - 05:47 PM
Did you read the first link I gave you? F_A24 stated that his Titan can no longer be heard from even 30 feet away. Also, silencers are very practical in Nerf. You don't want the opposition to know where you are if you have a big, long-range but slow to reload gun as your primary, so you suppress it. This works exceptionally well in assassination games where you can hide across the street and pick single or multiple targets off unnoticed.Sure a nerf silencer will condence the sound a little bit, but it wont make any more than a few decibles quieter.
Founder of the Shadow Militia.
Founder of Nightshade Laboratories and The Nightshade Armament Corporation.
#10
Posted 07 August 2007 - 08:35 PM
I dont think you can stop that THWAP sound of the round leaving the barrel without reducing power dramatically, once again this happens in real life when a bullet travels through the silencer it relieves gas and with that u also relieve power.
In Truth many of us put silencers on our nerf guns because it makes them look F*CkInG SEXY
and many of them do work, still looks quite amazing.
Blaffair to Rememblack.
#11
Posted 08 August 2007 - 11:45 AM
I have experimented a bit with some acoustical foam that McMaster-Carr offers and part number 5692T13 really works well. This stuff is light, cheap, and works really well. It won't reduce the sound to nothing. That would require putting the gun in an air tight container which isn't possible in Nerf because the dart must leave. So, just buy this foam and wrap your gun in it. I used this to silence some old movie cameras I have and it takes at least 10 dBs off just by wrapping the camera in it.
#12
Posted 08 August 2007 - 11:53 AM
The best you can do with a real silencer is reduce the noise to a barely audible pneumatic "puff". that pretty much is all you get with a nerf gun. So the only reason to silence a nerf gun is for FUN. The real purpose of a silencer is not only to make the gun a little less audible but also keep the victim guessing as to where the gun was fired. it turns the gun into a sort of "ventrilloquist" to borrow the callocialism.
Sure a nerf silencer will condence the sound a little bit, but it wont make any more than a few decibles quieter.
It sounds, from what you've been saying, as though you haven't actually made one and tested it. That being the case, I wouldn't say what they CAN and CAN'T do. You cannot make statements about their abilities without actually testing one. Having said that, this has made me curious, so I'm going to make one for my Titan when I get a chance (middle of a Longshot project at the moment) - I recommend you make one as well and see for yourself whether they work.
Also, I think you meant "colloquialism" which does not make even remote sense in this case. Colloquialism (n.) - a colloquial expression; characteristic of spoken or written communication that seeks to imitate informal speech.
Doesn't matter or have any impact on the subject, just thought I'd let you know.
#13
Posted 09 August 2007 - 08:50 PM
-Nerfer34
You know what... I know it's kinda late... but Props Cole.
-Baghead
#14
Posted 09 August 2007 - 08:58 PM
Not noticeable at all when fired from 30 feet away.
I don't feel the way I used to do.
I know its bad,
After what we had,
But I’m just not the angel you knew.
#15
Posted 10 August 2007 - 04:43 PM
Do you mean 50 feet or is it 50 inches??
Vancouverites (and surrounding areas), PM me if you Nerf.
#16
Posted 10 August 2007 - 07:55 PM
Captain Slug, I couldn't have said it better.
#17 Guest_DarkInfection_*
Posted 10 August 2007 - 08:30 PM
(Since it has gases in it, Nitrogen, Oxygen, and Carbon-dioxide.)
Edited by DarkInfection, 10 August 2007 - 08:32 PM.
#18
Posted 12 August 2007 - 03:49 PM
P.S. Gas from a fired round is different from oxygen, and I didn't want to simply refer to oxygen as gas, as that might cause some confusion, especially to those who are new to all this, and don't know much about guns, or how they work.
Edited by bored_kid93, 12 August 2007 - 03:55 PM.
Captain Slug, I couldn't have said it better.
#19
Posted 12 August 2007 - 10:45 PM
"Which road do I take?" she asked.
"Where do you want to go?" responded the Cheshire cat.
"I don't know," Alice answered.
"Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."
#20
Posted 13 August 2007 - 10:09 PM
Venom: Haven't we all?
#21 Guest_DarkInfection_*
Posted 14 August 2007 - 05:14 PM
Either way, differentiating between the two makes no sense. The silencer can't tell what the chemical composition of the gas going through it is.
Exactly.
#22
Posted 14 August 2007 - 11:15 PM
Captain Slug, I couldn't have said it better.
#23
Posted 15 August 2007 - 05:47 PM
"Which road do I take?" she asked.
"Where do you want to go?" responded the Cheshire cat.
"I don't know," Alice answered.
"Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."
#24 Guest_DarkInfection_*
Posted 15 August 2007 - 06:27 PM
#25
Posted 15 August 2007 - 07:31 PM
Just thought I'd add another thing. Suppressors/silencers that are home-made for Nerf guns add lots of weight to the tip of the barrel, making it harder to take aim while on the move. It makes the whole gun feel heavier.
So true. a simple counter weight in the stock (assuming you have one) can eliminate that though. Then you just have an all-round heavier gun.
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