Semi-auto Air Tank Design
#1
Posted 10 July 2007 - 10:15 PM
#2
Posted 10 July 2007 - 10:17 PM
#3
Posted 10 July 2007 - 10:23 PM
#4
Posted 10 July 2007 - 11:19 PM
-Dr. Suess
#5
Posted 10 July 2007 - 11:26 PM
BUT
it would be
1) unwieldy
2) dangerous (PVC @ 200PSI? Not near me)
Ergonomics and simplicity are omnipresent factors. Just build a snap.
Good idea, though.
All your base are belong to us!!"
{Presbyterian College Nerf}
#6
Posted 10 July 2007 - 11:30 PM
I doubt even I could do that.
I don't feel the way I used to do.
I know its bad,
After what we had,
But I’m just not the angel you knew.
#7
Posted 10 July 2007 - 11:36 PM
I see in your design you have a check valve for preventing back flow. That's necessary for building an airtank. It's location is also ideal in that it is directly connected to the firing tank. If it were connected to the front of the holding tank, then the tubing (and not the airtank) would be put under excess pressure. Those are the strong points of your design. The weak points are it's lack of a valve that allows control over the amount of air being released at a time, the pressure is unregulated from the holding tank to the firing chamber, and the pressure of the holding chamber is both too high for standard PVC parts and unobtainable with a regular bike pump.
What you can do is combine existing products to create a semi-auto tank. This valve (by Doom and Dr. Nerf) allows for controlled burst of air. And this design by CS allows you to store massive quantities of air at a high pressure and then be regulated down to a practical firing chamber. So all you would have to do is connect the tank to the valve and you would have a semi-auto valve and tank.
#8
Posted 11 July 2007 - 06:00 AM
And this is coming from the guy who can cock a modified LS with his left hand (unless of course you're left handed, but I can't even do it with my right)?It would also be hard to pump something up to 200 psi.
I doubt even I could do that.
On topic, I have the same point as shadow. By what I can see it looks like there is nothing controlling the airflow. Therefore the amount of air allowed to escape would be decided by the trigger pull.
-OfAll'
#9
Posted 11 July 2007 - 11:27 AM
#10
Posted 11 July 2007 - 11:57 AM
#11
Posted 11 July 2007 - 12:34 PM
#12
Posted 11 July 2007 - 12:48 PM
Also, in your diagram, you need to replace the check valve with a regulator set at 30 PSI.
Edited by wldworld, 11 July 2007 - 12:50 PM.
I broke my clippers trying to cut the spring. So I couldn't break the spring with my bare hands so I used a hammer to pound the clipper handle and one of the clippers broke off.
#13
Posted 11 July 2007 - 04:39 PM
And this is coming from the guy who can cock a modified LS with his left hand (unless of course you're left handed, but I can't even do it with my right)?It would also be hard to pump something up to 200 psi.
I doubt even I could do that.
-OfAll'
Im right handed and I can pump a BBB modified LS with my left. Is that realy that hard?
And if you search bjack you can find a paint that I did and it has a working sem-auto design.
#15
Posted 12 July 2007 - 08:44 AM
However, one thing I want to note is the difficulty of building the Dr. Nerf valve (and FYI, I didn't have much to do with the construction of that valve, but many thought of the basic design many times before his construction). You'll have to do a lot of sanding and the end product isn't the most reliable. I have redesigned the valve myself to make it much easier to fabricate from threaded rod, nuts, washers, and rubber washers. This new version also is easier to pull and seals better. I anticipate completion of the Nerf gun (including air regulators and few other features) within the next few weeks given my free time. I would not recommend constructing the valve as described by Dr. Nerf due to the vast improvements in construction I have made in my new version.
Edited by Doom, 12 July 2007 - 08:45 AM.
#16
Posted 12 July 2007 - 03:53 PM
Your welcome. I'm assuming that the design is a simplified version of the valve. The real valve is composed of many more pieces. And what do you intend to do with the semi-auto tank after you build it? If you're thinking about making a semi-auto gun then you would have to incorporate something that loads the dart with each trigger pull in addition to firing it. And that's something that requires much more work.Alright so heeding Shadow's advice i drew up a new design for the gun. Once again feedback would be nice. Thanks, especially to Shadow for his advice, and Dr. Nerf and Captain Slug for their designs.
Doom, can you post picks of the redesigned valve?
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 03:58 PM
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 06:24 PM
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