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#1 Talio

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Posted 25 September 2003 - 10:34 PM

This one goes out to Snaped on hq and apocolpyse on here. First off Apocolpyse, you owe me money. You didn't send that money back to me and then sold the LnL when things didn't go your way. And snaped, who I've now spent 15 dollars on shipping on a game trade. Who CONFIRMED that we still had a deal so he would not go out a buy the game, went out and bought the game. I shipped it yesterday folks. This is crap. What the hell does it say for this community that we can not even trust each other.

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 12:08 AM

i'd hate to say it, but even around fellow nerfers you really have to be careful when trading or buying guns. a few things that i always do: 1)archive all the PMs that between you and the seller 2) make sure you know their name and address. 3) don't accept/give vague agreements: make sure everything is clear. it's better to take longer setting up the trade and making sure everything is set, than to rush along and possibly have a person puss out on the deal. 4)use good descresion with who you buy/sell to/from. maybe even look at who else the've dealt with, and talk to that other person.

on a side note, i'm a little suprised you're having trouble with Apocalypse. i had a very easy time buying a Lock and Load from him just a week or two ago. on the other hand Talio, i'd feel a little weird if the Lock and Load i bought was the one that he had previously offered to you and then "sold (to me) when things didn't go his way" who knows, maybe he had multiple LnLs. anyhoo, i'm still suprised your having trouble with him...he was a pleasant seller to me.
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#3 Talio

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 09:06 AM

I would venture to say that gun was the LnL that was going to sell me, but don't feel weird, it is by far not your fault, it's his. And I understand your advice, but honestly, I feel that I had done everything you mentioned, it was very sudden and shocking but what can i say, he's a dick. Apoc is ok, but he just decided that our deal wasn't important and was a little bitch about it. What pisses me off even more is that he just won't send the moeny.
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Posted 26 September 2003 - 09:22 AM

I had some trouble from the same person, Talio. I bought a 'broken Crossbow' off of him, and from his description the only thing wrong with it was a crack in the plunger shaft. When it arrived, there was no plunger shaft at all. :unsure: Like Ray said, make sure everything is absolutely crystal CLEAR before anything is sent.
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#5 Talio

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 10:08 AM

Yeah I heard about that, thats just bad business. Fucking kids to god damn eager to sell something and make a buck to tell the god damn truth. I've had the same problem with buying guitars and such from the paper, and fuck it, I never trust online shit with instrument. Those things cost a minimal 300 where as here I've only really lost about 50. Still sucks, cause I'm a college student and that 50 would have gone a long way, but fuck it, life goes on and I really can't do much about it. Apoc on the other, better send that fucking money, or he's going to be getting a bill in the mail. And I hear you on getting shit thats not exactly in the condition they origonally stated. I bought a 1500 with a "airhose that need some glue". Well needless to say, the air hose didn't exsist and half of the airtank part on the gun wasn't there. I didn't bitch to him about this, cause luckly I was using the insides only and was planning on exchanging the air hose. But god damn it, crossbow without a plunger, jesus christ, fucking worthless, except to Evil. Anyway, here's an advanced warning, if either of these whinny piss fuck bitches show up at a Jersey War, remember, payback is a bitch!

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#6 Daedarus

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 03:45 PM

payback is a bitch!


Or at least a backhand to the face :ph34r:

About a year ago I traded an awesome modded BBB for an old SM 3000 yellow, and when I received it, it was broken. I forgot who it was though...**grumble grumble**
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#7 Ragornocks

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 06:00 PM

I'm still waiting on that broken Xbow from Atticus...and I can't check my PM archives, becuase they are all on NHQ. Gah, why me? Why, fuckin' me?
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Posted 26 September 2003 - 08:14 PM

Talio.
If you want to go whining on forums,include the whole story
(not verbatum,but as I remember event's)
1. Talio answered trading post on NHQ by Snaped

2.Deal worked out,he ships first

3.Snaped emails Talio about a week later:"ship yet?" Reply-"I don't have my part of the trade,someone else has it"

4.9-18/Snaped emails Talio :"Hey I almost bought the game today,are we doing this or not?"Reply "Ijust got it back in the mail from a friend,you shall have it probably sometime this weekend"

5. Snaped emails back "Ok,email me before/when you ship" ......No email recieved.........

6.. Item on NH brought to my attention ,his posts makes me wonder if he has EVER owned the game. http://nerfhaven.com...topic=416&st=45

7.Snaped finds the game he was supposed to get from Talio almost a month ago at Goodwill priced @29.99 and it's a half off "blue sticker" so thats $14.99

8.9-25/Snaped Emails Talio "Sorry,I got tired of waiting and bought Galaxies, if you're still interested they will be on Ebay shortly."

9.Talio emails Snaped "

We have a serious problem. First off, you made a deal, guns for SWG. I sent
the game yesterday. It's in the mail. WHAT IN GODS NAME POSESSED YOU TO DO
SOMETHING LIKE THIS. You have absolutely no dignity, I can't believe it. I
can't trust anyone in this world. Think very hard of what you did. I
couldn't find the stradegy guide, but I was going to e-mail you and offer to
buy another online and have it directly shipped to your house. Did you even
think of clearing this with me first to make sure I hadn't sent the game??
It's people like you who do things like this that make the nerf community and
the entire trading market in the world unreliable. It's people like you that
cause mistrust. It's people like you how make a deal, and go back on their
word. THIS IS A SAD DAY FOR NERF!! I will be posting a topic and warning
about you on every nerf board. You are the second to do this too me. If I do
not see an online quote for that game as soon as it reaches you, legal actions
will be taken. I am going to try and re-route it, but technically, and I did
check it with our family's lawyer, a verbal contract has been broken. Your
only terms were that if you recieved the game and could not long it, the deal
would be void. You need to take a long look in the mirror on this one my
friend. And you got tired of waiting, well let me give you a lesson on life,
thats the way things are. We had a hurricane, I had no power, and my street
was flooded, I could not physically leave my home until Sunday afternoon. I
then realized that the stradegy guide was missing, searched for it, could not
find it, but sent you the game anyway. Why especially when you confirmed with
me that the deal was still on, did you then break it without consulting me?
Have you no honor? I will make sure of this, you will never make another deal
in the nerf online community again if I have any say in it. You have
disgraced everything that is moral and ethic. And all because you couldn't
wait two more days to get a game. And how much did you pay for it. If you
want to get technical, you hosed me from the start. I was giving you a fifty
dollar game and a twenty dollar manual for about 45 dollars MAX worth of
guns. I hope you are happy with your game, and even though I know deep down
that if you had the nerve to pull this kind of a stunt, then nothing I can say
will reach you. I make no apologies, but I believe you owe me much more than
an apology. You WILL pay shipping for it to be sent there and back if I can
not re-route it.

10.Snaped emails Talio "Sorry,you were supposed to email me before/when you shipped.I will refuse delivery when/if it ever comes"

11.Talio wastes bandwidth

I'm sorry to have put everyone through this,
signed
The whinny piss fuck bitch
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#9 Talio

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 10:51 PM

I personally liked the month part, but you know what, I'm done, I got the guns I needed, the only loss was the splitfire. So you went the extra mile, be happy. It's over the post office will send it back when it hits it's destination, and I'm not even worried about it anymore. I suppose I should apologize, but I don't really feel like it, have a nice life dick.

Love,

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PS. All you Mother Fuckers are going to pay, your the ones who are the ball lickers!
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Posted 27 September 2003 - 06:51 AM

I got the guns I needed, the only loss was the splitfire.

Talio,What about the $15 you spent to ship the game?But I suppose if the Us Postal Service was nice enough to go through the millions of parcels and "reroute" your package,they would also refund your $15 too..so am I off the hook for repaying you your postage?...Since you said you only sent half the trade,the game,not the guide book-the weight should have been around 1-2 pounds but a $15 fee would be in the 12 pound range...were you sending it preloaded on a computer?
I will apologise for not waiting and not consulting you,but if you had actually sent me something I would have completed the trade and sold/traded it to someone else.You will never get anywhere pulling this kind of bullshit,if you have a problem try to settle it private/or in person before you start flaming on a open forum.
Ok,I'm done too.Sorry to all,again
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#11 Talio

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Posted 27 September 2003 - 12:37 PM

The 15 was for all the shipping this poor game has made. It was lower than 15 but not by much. I'd have to look at the reciepts to give you an exact estimate. I also had to pay a charge yesterday morning when I had them re-route it. Yes I've since found sources for all the guns except the splitfire, I'd like to have one, but tommorow will come and I'll be in ok shape for a while. I'll probably just buy a 2k, and mod it into single fire pistol form untill I can find someone who has one. Basically, this has gone from me venting into a bitch fight. The boards aren't for our pissing and moaning. I appreciate your apology if it was sincere, and I will say I also apologize for not e-mailing you to tell you I had shipped it. If you have anything else to say, you might as well e-mail me.

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Posted 27 September 2003 - 06:38 PM

The 15 was for all the shipping this poor game has made. It was lower than 15 but not by much. I'd have to look at the reciepts to give you an exact estimate. I also had to pay a charge yesterday morning when I had them re-route it. Yes I've since found sources for all the guns except the splitfire, I'd like to have one, but tommorow will come and I'll be in ok shape for a while. I'll probably just buy a 2k, and mod it into single fire pistol form untill I can find someone who has one. Basically, this has gone from me venting into a bitch fight. The boards aren't for our pissing and moaning. I appreciate your apology if it was sincere, and I will say I also apologize for not e-mailing you to tell you I had shipped it. If you have anything else to say, you might as well e-mail me.

Talio.

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Posted 27 September 2003 - 07:58 PM

Talio,
I got a spare NIB SF.....,

You can have it for $10, shipping is $7, total $17. Want it?

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